Alien Anomalies

The Jackal · Member

Same alien craft found throughout the Galaxy... Here's a couple lunar pics

The Genealogist · Veteran Member

Hi guys

i hope the above article explains the difference between artistic impressions of Luna 17 and the actual vehicle that landed. I followed all the lunar landings very closely when I was a kid and I can assure you that there were many different representations on stamps and in newspapers.

As the article explains there were 2 sets of ramps either side of the base Luna 17 which gave Russian scientists here on earth a choice of which one to use. I agree that the U.S. LROC photo appears to show just one ramp lowered to the right side. If you look to the left of the vehicle the angle of the shadow suggests to me that the other ramp is raised. Although I could not find an explanation why this was done can I offer a solution? With Lunokhod 1 returning to the base station is it likely that scientists here on earth raised one set of ramps to reduce the possibility of a collision as they tried to navigate the surface immediately surrounding it? Both ramps were obviously lowered at one point (as per the Lunokhod photo) but it seems it is not like that now on the most recent LROC photos.

Remember it's the Americans that are saying its Luna 17!!

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Xenon · Administrator

TJ, I have the greatest respect for our members and the community as a whole, I don't interfere or judge member's post's providing they stay with in the forum guidelines and rule's, most of our members have been researching anomalies for decade's and know a lot more than most author's books I have read.

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qmantoo · Teaching the truth

Ok, hang on a moment I think there may be a misunderstanding... Are you saying that the LROC image of the Russian Lunar lander is NOT from Earth but from somewhere else?

So, although we are told by the space agencies it is the Russian Lunar lander (on the LROC site link in the 5th post from the start), in reality it is a huge mining or other machine from another planet? Then it is NASA who are trying to pass off something else as their picture of the Russian lander.

Your evidence for this is the fact that the artistic representation you have posted in the image above this post, and The Genealogist's Russian image taken from the rover on the Moon, if taken from above is nothing like the 'Y' shape shown in the LROC image. The many other 'Y'-shapes out there in the Solar System give your argument more weight.

Opinions are not going to sway anyone if they are looking for reasons to believe in alien structures, civilisations, and machinery being found on other planets. Which is why we have been trying to ask folk for links to official sites to back up their evidence or the argument they are making on this forum.

We have in the past had people who have, lets put it like this, "had other agendas" when posting on this forum and generally they do not fit in well with people who just want to post evidence of anomalies.

Like any other community, there has to be some give and take, after all, people who are joining this community have to first learn how it is run so they can fit in with the others. One of the things we like to do, as I said, is to download the original image, fiddle about with it, and generally see for ourselves the evidence which is being posted. In that case we need to have a link to the official original image. Occasionally if it is not known where the image came from, then thats OK, but generally we like to have links to the originals please.

The Jackal · Member

Yeah, I totally disagree, the Soviet lander looks nothing like this image, at all. How one can compare the Russian lander to pic #4 is beyond me. They aren't even close.

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Macten · Veteran Member

Photo 4 is a lander platform, don't know which one but there are rover tracks and spin circles all over the landscape.

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The Jackal · Member

@masjosh my Mars crater pic came from my Digital Mars Globe see image below. It's a composite, visual spectrum and LDAR composite which is much better data then mere visual spectrum Photography. Which may be more pleasing to the human eye, but with the composite data there is so much more. Besides the fact, if these beings don't want to be noticed, the visual spectrum is the first thing they would filter. I'm looking for the crater name and location. When i became enthralled with my "y" guy, I was just collecting images, and not cataloging the locations. So big mistake. So hard to find now. I'll find it and post back. Maybe a while.

masjosh · Member

Jackal, can you provide a source of the Martian Crater image?

The Jackal · Member

@quamantoo yeah, the Soviet lunar rover looks NOTHING like the "Y" shaped vehicle I posted, NOTHING at all... You're "facts" are bogus And mere opinion. This is a picture of the Soviet era rover. Nothing like my post, at all.

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The Jackal · Member

@theGenealogist. Good, someone else concurs that this is out there. I've seen many images when someone is pointing out an other non related anomaly, while one of these "Y" things is sitting right there in front of the viewer unnoticed. its rather organic shape makes it seem to blend in well. I have even seen these through my own telescope, no i dont have the coordinates for these as they were taken in my backyard with my telescope,

The Jackal · Member

Oh good grief. What are you an anomaly snob? Many of my pics were sent to me by other friends. Some I've collected. I have some stats, not all. no ones "trying to pull a fast one on you..." State your opinion, I'll state mine.

qmantoo · Teaching the truth

If you read my post you will see that I was asking you for links to original images.

I also said you were possibly trying to falsly claim something was a huge mining machine when obviously image No 4 is not.
You said this
The last two images are the most clear and the point of my post
and we have since found that it is an image taken of a Russian lunar rover and lander.
Certainly you are pulling our chain IF you are still trying to tell us that the Russian Lander is an example of a mining machine as you claim.

So now you have not given us links so that we can follow up on the other images you posted and you say these images come from Moon Globe Credits which does not tell us what that is. Is it a book, is it a website, is it a company? What is it?

I have already said that the 'Y' or 'V' shaped structures you have found are strange and may be what you claim as large machines or they could be craft or they could be something else entirely. I agree that they are all over the place in all kinds of images. All I am saying is that the image No4 you posted is NOT an example of one of these.

Before we take you as a credible anomaly hunter on this forum, what we would probably like to see is an admittance that you made a mistake as any honest and humble person would do, and start playing by the unofficial guidelines of the forum which is to provide links to original images.

If you cannot be bothered to do that then there is hardly any point in continuing to post here since as far as many people are concerned, it all could be a Photoshop creation and does not provide any evidence for proof of life outside Earth. We also like to verify claims and often like to see if we can find other supporting anomalies in the same images.

The Genealogist · Veteran Member

Hi The Jackal please note that I fully support your analysis on the existence of the Y shaped anomaly as I too have been totally baffled when I have come across them on the LROC quick map. You might have seen a couple that I have posted on other threads.

The Jackal · Member

Ok so what about the same shape on Mars, Venus and Pluto. the Russkies? Bwahaha! Nope. There are dozens of the same shape on all solar system bodies. Try to explain it. The same "y" shaped craft is clearly seen on the edge of the Martian crater.

The Jackal · Member

definetly not the same at all. Not even close.

The Jackal · Member

All my images come from the following. Unless otherwise mentioned. Unlike other posters I do zero inhancement or "coloring" no ones pulling anyone's wank in my posts.

qmantoo · Teaching the truth

Good post The Genealogist, yes this is it. (see the second image down in the link) http://lroc.sese.asu.edu/posts/402 See here Russian Lander - Lunokhod 1 Revisited

There is a possibility that someone is pulling our plonker perhaps, particularly in image 4 ?

However, having said that, there ARE 'V' shaped things which I feel are craft in other images and they are NOT explainable in that way. See this post Japanese Jaxa Images of Spacecraft (problem with a link to it) alienanomalies.activeboard.com/t33404215/japanese-jaxa-images-of-spacecraft link here

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The Genealogist · Veteran Member

Hi guys for image number 4 in the sequence please have a look at the LROC photos for Luna 17 the Russian lander that carried Lunakod 1. This may go some way to providing an answer.

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qmantoo · Teaching the truth

The fourth is very very interesting. Where is it from? If from a lunar map, then what are the co-ordinates?

In order to make our evidence stronger and to hopefully convince more skeptics we like to have links to the original NASA/ESA/JAXA images if possible.

I am not suggesting you are doing this, but so many Youtubes are CGI generated and anomaly images are often Photoshopped to make them more dramatic, so this is why we try to get members to be more scientific and provide links to the originals.

We also like to take the original and run it through our own recipe for cleaning it up and making stuff more obvious.
Of course what we are doing is not any better than what NASA does as we both often 'enhance' the images in various ways, but at least we are starting form the original rather than a screenshot of a screenshot of a highly compressed image.

Yes, I am certainly interested in this vehicle, as I have found similar looking things in the JAXA Japanese images which came out a few years ago. They are on here somewhere too. I always thought they were flying craft of some kind as I dont always see the tracks along with them.

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The Jackal · Member

The last two images are the most clear and the point of my post... The third image is from a Apollo shot, notice the "Y" from a horizontal view.

The Jackal · Member

I have found a particular vehicle/craft or piced of mining equipment that resides on the moon, Mars, Merucry, Venus and even Pluto. The anomaly is delineated by its "Y" shape. Which seems to have a large moving front appendage, and by large these things are sometimes kilometers long. Look for tracks, some images seem to show long miles long dual cat type lag tracks. Incredibly massive and deep into the lunar dust. I was able to convince a friend of mine that was a total sceptic with my collection of images. he laughed at me when I told him about my hobby. He told me the sheer number of images containing this "Y" shaped anomaly convinced him, being a logical intelligent person, how could one not believe. I have no idea how many images, will post here. But I'll try a bunch.

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