I have added the animation of the view shown above in order to show up the surface detail that is not so easy to recognize in the original image capture.
This is the kind of image quality we should be seeing from the LRO camera.
The image resolution selected using Quickmap was 1m per pixel. The 0.5m per pixel resolution is not as clear and has a blind effect over it that obscures the surface detail.
It's clear to see from the animation that there ARE structures on the moon and apparently they are there in large numbers with many of them grouped very close together. Many of the objects that appear as craters are not craters at all but would seem to be large entrances to a space underground. In fact, if you look at one of the two large openings a structure can be seen over one of these openings. Also, take note of the large building and tall tower in the lower left of the image. There is also evidence showing to suggest that the inhabitants produce their air artificially as pipes or ducts connected to structures can be seen in the view.
Maybe Yutu will come across some areas where these type of objects can be observed or possibly the inhabitants. Now that would be interesting to see.
The two images used in the animation are shown below and have been resized to 900 pixels wide.
Many of the objects and features showing in the processed view can just be made out in the raw original.
I have posted the raw image capture as a guide for members and visitors who wish to reference the location. The main objects to observe have a circle around them, namely a pair of very prominent towers, a conical tower and a group of tall structures.
If what we can observe in the image is true and not an illusion means there could well be an active life presence on the lunar surface that has constructed these objects. Of course, there is also the possibility that they could be relics from an ancient period, but I think this is highly unlikely due to their condition.
This area of the moon can be seen from earth and the use of a good telescope may pinpoint some of the features on the northern slopes of the smaller Ballialdus-A crater.
-- Edited by Timewarp on Saturday 21st of December 2013 10:34:45 AM
This image is the same view as the first image posted in the thread but I have added an effect to make the surface detail clearer.
Note how the blue mask effect tends to allow for better viewing of the detail.
To my eyes, what can be seen in the view are many hundreds of structures of all shapes and sizes. There are towers, spires and many other tall objects. If fact, if you look closely you may see two tall towers very close together. To the left of these there is a group of structures with some tall objects rising from them. If you think you are seeing facial representations you probably are. I think the surface of the moon is one huge artististic canvas. If you look right into the image you may understand what I mean.
Two views are shown. The first image has the effect added.
The seconds is the greyscale view and is provided for comparison.
I don't think I would get any feedback either as they follow their own agenda but I may contact an old friend who just happens to be an astrobiologist.
To gain a better perspective of the surface objects and features I have rotated the view 25 degrees to the left and cropped it to 1000 pixels wide.
Take note of the 'donut-shaped' structure near the centre of the image. If you look to the right of it some other large structures can also be observed.
Besides these features there are a countless number of other smaller structural objects to view including what would appear to be some statues and towers.
note the donuts in the bottom third of the image going from bottom centre to the northeast of the picture spaced out regularly. Maybe you send it to some scientists to look at but I dont thinkyou will get any positive feedback from them.
I have done my best with this image to get as close to the surface as possible to observe what is really there.
The image below is a section from the central part of the image seen above.
There are many objects including 'donut' shapes to observe and some have rectilinear characteristics. There are also some towers as well but what they are used for I am not sure. It's possible they could be water towers as a greater height for a header tank would be required on the moon to produce an increased flow pressure due to the lower gravity.
I have reduced the overall brightness by reducing the gamma.
What more can we say than we already know... that there are aliens living all over the place ! I am sure that NASA use 3D views all the time to get a sense of proper perspective and I am sure that is why they had two cameras mounted next to each other like they have on the MER Rovers. Good thread.
This image is a cropped pseudo-3D view of the previous image therefore a pair of red/blue glasses will be required.
Three-dimensional views can be produced when the camera viewpoint is a great distance from the surface. Remember that this is an oblique view so a certain amount of vertical perspective can be appreciated. It is not a top-down view like many of the other LROC images.
There is a huge amount of object detail showing on the surface, so please allow time for recognition of the objects and other features to click-in. There are also some fine examples of 'artistic architecture' to observe. If you have difficulty in recognizing any of these particular features I will post another image highlighting some of them. There are just too many figures and other artistic forms to be a case of pareidolia. it would appear that the races of 'people' on the moon have an art-orientated culture.
Macten, Considering the number of inverted conical-looking pits there are on the moon makes me think that excavations have been carried out in the past to obtain raw materials either for further processing or for use as building materials. The flat-bottomed pits are in evidence all over the lunar surface and their appearance would seem totally artificial as they differ completely from impact craters.
For those that doubt the validity of the Apollo 11 mission, how else would Neil Armstrong have known that 'there are places to go beyond belief'. It is reasonable to suspect that he must have seen objects and other features on the lunar surface to have made that comment.
When looking closely at the images posted in this thread it becomes easy to see what he was on about as these images definitely show that there are places on the moon that are beyond belief. There is no shortage of tall towers, head statues, artistic architecture and donut-type structures scattered all over the surface. Many of the structural objects would seem to be interconnected.
I have tried to estimate how many structures are showing in the view but there are just too many to make a reasonable evaluation.
The centre coordinates of the image are as follows:
Lat: -22.0242; Long: -21.5312. Quick Map - 1 meter per pixel resolution.
I have added a greyscale version of the view.
Just imagine you are looking down on a town or city at an oblique angle to the vertical. Remember the terrain is sloping down from top left to lower right. I think these particular views are the best yet when searching for recognizable object detail on the lunar surface.
Enjoy the chance to observe a completely different world to what we know and see on this planet.
-- Edited by Timewarp on Tuesday 10th of December 2013 02:59:48 PM
-- Edited by Timewarp on Thursday 12th of December 2013 01:07:51 PM
Personally I would agree with a lot you are saying except that I believe the moon is being mined by machines. Whether this has been true for millennium is unclear. How else would any race possibly light years away reap the benefits of such an operation? And as far as the missions, we were warned off because we stole something. More than likely the races that control the machines and monitor our progress ( Dark Knight ) have some kind of technical non-interference policy that we violated with Apollo 19 and 20. (covert missions launched from Vandenburg AFB) This is my theory (well, most of the connection part is mine) so take it with a grain of salt LOL!
I do not think that the races presently mining the moon had anything to do with our creation or history. More than likely that race or entity is long gone or has no use for us anymore.
My thinking on the images of creatures are that the makers of the machines or outposts put these on for identification or warning. What else could be their function? I see this many times over on Mars where it looks like a machine has a figure head at its front and a shell hiding what is inside. The only time we see technical objects is when the machine has been smashed to pieces and the figure head , shell parts and internals are scattered everywhere.
Maybe someone else could enlighten us with another theory that could tie some of this stuff together?
I have always stated that, as far as I am concerned, the only mission that landed on the moon was the Apollo 11 mission.
The transcript of the Apollo 11 mission gives us many clues relating to what was found and observed on the lunar surface.
The other Apollo missions certainly blasted off, but whether they actually landed the moon is another matter.
I think the image detail showing in this thread is the best evidence yet in proving that there are structures on the lunar surface. The camera doesn't lie.
The big question to consider now is, are these structures relics from a past era or are they currently occupied? I firmly believe the latter.
Head statues constructed on plinths are in abundance at many lunar locations.
The type of architecture is of interest as well. There are many instances where facial representations are formed by groups of structures.
Is this type of design and construction deliberate? I call this type of constructional form - 'Artistic Architecture'.
Could it possibly be that the race(s) of 'people' on the moon are trying to tell us something about who they are and their facial appearance?
Whoever these people are display an advanced degree of intelligence. The twin tower structures and other tall objects showing in the above image prove this to be true.
Another interesting question. Could it possibly be that the beings who landed on the moon in ancient times were related to some of our ancient ancestors?
In ancient times, did these space-travelling people land on this planet as well as land on the moon? Is it possible that they may have travelled from Mars?
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I believe "Buzz" He's been there and done that. I also believe that SOME of the Apollo stuff was faked because they couldn't show what they were really looking at up there. You cant really fake the low G motion shots but some of the stills are very questionable.
If more than one Astronaut says there are aliens and we were warned off that is enough for me.
So, now you all know why we have not been back to the Moon (as far as we are told anyway). Maybe the rumours that we have been "warned off" are correct?
It would appear there are many types of facial representations showing including those of humanoids.
If there is no one on the moon we should not be able to see any of these recognizable structures or facial representations, but only rocks and boulders.
Another point is that no astronaut ever made mention of structures the type of which can be seen in these images. I wonder why?
-- Edited by Timewarp on Wednesday 4th of December 2013 01:42:23 PM
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Speaking as one who can see what you are pointing out, I have to agree. Altho from the images on mars and the moon I would hardly call these "people". As many have pointed out before me, the former inhabitants of mars seem to have a fascination with Reptiles and Demons, or is that what they really looked like?
If we only knew our true origins, I'm sure the puzzle would fall into place.
Here is an animation of the above image. I have reduced the size to 700 pixels wide.
In the past I have used the term "artistic architecture" when referring to groups of structures that appear to have been constructed to a particular form or pattern.
In the animation there is no shortage of them and these types of artistic representations can also be observed in many of the better LROC lunar images.
I have placed a red ellipse around some of the recognizable artistic formations and a yellow ellipse around some of the structures.
Many people are under the impression that there is nothing on the moon but the visual evidence proves that this assumption is not correct.
I firmly believe that what can be seen in the image is not a result of pareidolia but a specific phenomenon that can only be appreciated when viewed from above.
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After finding what can be observed in the above images I thought I would devote more time to exploring this particular area and very interesting it is too.
The area under investigation is the smaller crater known as Ballialdus A. The area can be viewed using Quickmap and is fairly easy to find.
Here is another oblique aerial view which is showing many surface objects and other features that are definitely not rocks.
Take note of the towers on top of some of the structures. The view is full of interesting detail.
I have processed the image slightly to remove the artifacts that can be seen on the LROC original.
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Considering the recognizable objects showing up in the north Bullialdus-A region I decided to produce a pseudo-3D view. The detail showing is absolutely amazing.
Why is it that NASA and its associated agencies cannot produce a view with this kind of detail?
The detail showing raises a whole host of new scientific questions about the lunar atmosphere and the conditions on the surface.
For starters, the location - Lat: -22.0089; Long: -21.5346, is on the near side of the moon. This area should be able to be observed with a good telescope.
We are constantly told that there is nothing on the moon except dust, rocks and redundant hardware from previous missions.
You may or may not agree, but I think the object detail that can be observed in the images shown above is very real. Peer review is very welcome.
Why did we not hear from the astronauts about the presence of structures on the moon? They could not have failed to notice what is really there.
You will need a pair of red/blue glasses to view the anaglyph.
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I have just come across a copy of the book titled "Somebody else is on the Moon" written by George Leonard.
He refers to machinery showing near Bullialdus and Lubinicky craters so I thought I would do a search of this area using Quickmap.
I think I may have found more than machinery in some of the latest LROC views.
Shown below is an oblique view of the surface in this particular area. The coordinates are shown on the image.
I have reduced the image to 1000 pixels wide and have adjusted the brightness and contrast levels.
The image is a png version.
Take a look and see if you can spot any objects or features on the surface. You may have to concentrate for a while before the objects start to register.
I can see many interesting shapes and objects that could throw some light on why man has not returned to the lunar surface.
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