Alien Anomalies

 My Observation of the differing soil color is that the area has been disturbed by the rover moving or running over part of the area in question and pushing up fresh soil from below the wethered crust. We have all seen that before especially in the spirit and oppy pics.  The laser does make marks just like the ones pointed out by the Watcher, so, that is the most logical conclusion. I have not seen these type of marks in other pics from spirit or oppy. My opinion.

I dont think you should just pack up and go, Watcher.  You know there is a defense mechanisim in all of us. YOu have made me re-examine lots of evidence, some I agree on, some not so much but the research still holds value. An individuals First reaction to criticizim will most likely be defensive. And you cant expect perfection or even cross checking from people who dont do it all the time. Sorry to see you dissapointed in our reactions but we are only humans who want something more than what we are being told. No one wants to believe that those in charge lie. but they do.

And NASA ignores all of us. They allready know what is there.

I dont think there is any anger there at all. I just think that it is a good practice to acknowledge to ourselves and to the forum members when something turns out to have an explainable reason. Living where I do, I fully realise that there are people who do not like to admit that they are mistaken, but it is all part of being human. We all do it and I have made some very silly mistakes in the past - far worse than this one.

It really does not help to keep the peace by calling people names either, and not only that it just shows that a few more learning experiences are required before we get humbled into realising that, as I said, we all make mistakes and part of that learning is to acknowledge it to ourselves and to others - when it is warranted.

You act as team manager but no official mandate. Otherwise your words condemn themselves.

I understand your problems TheWatcher, but remember you are not alone.
As you surely know, we're here to examine various ideas.

Cant reply until you deal with the initial posts to ur anomaly. No point in ignoring it. Professional courtesy ICEMAN. Its a pattern everyone has to get used to. You punch up an anomaly. People take the time to respond and a conclusion is jointly reached.

Now your 'Ant burrows'. Do your feel an adequate answer has been reached? This is the only way to underline certain anomalies.

As for your previous post. Heres a clue. Look at what the rover was doing through the refs. .. I can take you to the watering hole but Im not going to show you how to drink.  
Your an anomaly hunter? The clues are already in this thread and in your broken initial link.... follow links and refs and you'll find your answer...  I would also advise you and anyone else posting images to try and read the accompanying data from source , Everything!!
TW

 

-- Edited by TheWatcher on Saturday 23rd of March 2013 02:31:41 PM

Good point, thewatcher.  We need to check that. 

I wonder if the laser could account for the one with the little crater ridge around it?

 

 

I think you're right, thewatcher.

 

From the chemcam - sol 174: Looks like this is likely it - (remember the laser works in conjunction with the chem cam): And front and center - we see the crater like depression: Someone can try and match this up to our image - but this looks awfully close.

 

I think the depression is probably caused by another instrument or piece of equipment touching the ground - which we do see in other shots in this area.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

-- Edited by marsrocks on Friday 22nd of March 2013 07:55:34 PM

Cheers MarsA
Further investigation on image sequences show that Curiosity had been firing her laser and drilling in PIA16804 location.

PIA16804: 2013-03-18 
Bluish Color in Broken Rock in 'Yellowknife Bay' 
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PIA16804

Iceman theres an error in your initial link to your image.

5 days earlier MSL rover had been firing laser in vicinity.

PIA16765: 2013-02-13
Laser Hits on Martian Drill Tailings Full Resolution: TIFF(7.962 MB)JPEG(319 kB)

Further evidence points to laser activity due to the MSL rovers science packages being engaged in next frame (Spectra image taken).
Images shot 'again' from mast cam which holds laser. Small laser contact holes can be just seen above drill target.

PIA16805: 2013-03-18

Drill Hole Image and Spectra Acquired by Mastcam 

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Looks like Curiosity had been  firing around area of interest. PIA16805 clinches the scenario.
The deployment of spectra camera happens after  previous frame and only happens after firing (POI PIA16804).
Whats been witnessed is an image after firing. The holes.

Unfortunately no anomaly.

Full sequence list 'JPL' http://photojournal.jpl.nasa.gov/targetFamily/mars

TW

 

-- Edited by TheWatcher on Friday 22nd of March 2013 07:55:46 PM

Hi, I've seen similar holes left by Curiosity's laser analyzer.

Zapping soil

Hitting Rock.

 

(B) This mission has 17 cameras. They will identify particular targets, and a laser will zap those rocks to probe their chemistry.

 

More holes (before and after shot) from laser asset.

 

Theres a number of possibilities. Need to check image ref against her activity.. should rule out or explain the anomalies.
I do remember her firing on soil too.

Cheers
TW

-- Edited by TheWatcher on Friday 22nd of March 2013 05:14:30 PM

Iceman that is an interesting theory, but the holes could be made by many other things, such as gas, liquids and other natural forces, to me they look like worm holes (notice the concentric rings that makes me think liquid is involved), I have mentioned before that many images show holes in rocks and soils, and to date I have not read any scientific explanation as to what is causing them except they are gas bubbles made by igneous rocks.