Alien Anomalies

The Genealogist · Veteran Member

Locations with concentrated anomalies

The Genealogist · Veteran Member

Of course the anomalies in the last post might be explained by geological means as there are stranger things here on earth. Every now and then however the LROC camera throws up what seems to be an impossible anomaly. The attached slide shows one such collection of structures. (Could be down to pixelisation or my misinterpretation. Or is it?) Please look at the original image as magnification has caused blurring. An actual size of the LROC image is supplied top left hand corner. Observations welcome.

LROC Quick Map co-ordinates : Lat -43.68890 Long -11.57327

Impossible Anomaly.jpg

For comparison I have added the lcation from image M175355139R. One thing I noticed was that the top oval shape appeared to be leaning forward

in this image as opposed to standing upright. Maybe my imagination going wild but I have placed the relative structure side by side on the top hand side of the slide.

A red line has been used to highlight the difference. Please look at the originals to verify or shot down.

Impossible Anomaly 2.jpg

-- Edited by The Genealogist on Monday 18th of February 2013 12:10:00 PM

The Genealogist · Veteran Member

The following slides show 3 different anomalies. The first image shows the proximity of each one to the other and lists their respective co-ordinates.

The second slide shows what seems to be a 'Tower' hiding in the shadows of a large overhang. The very top of this tower appears to reflect sunlight. Could this be an optical illusion?

The third slide shows what I like to call 'The Coin Toss anomaly' a hand-like structure which appears to have its thumb raised and bent as if to toss a coin resting between thumb and index finger. Above and to the right of it there appears to be 2 other anomalies one of which appears to show drums or cylinders which are faded and blurred out on one side. The one to the right and appears to be in the shape of a rocket complete with tail fins.

The fourth slide shows a what 'looks' to me like a partially 'covered' crater and a pyramid shaped hill. Im interested to hear how this crater could have formed naturally and whether it is unique among crater anomalies. The only other image for comparison is M144702076L but it fails to provide further clarification of the locations so please view the originals to gain a perspective. Observations and critical analysis welcome.

Quick map Location centred on Lat -44.06 Long -11.99

http://target.lroc.asu.edu/da/qmap.html

Link to image M144702076LC

http://wms.lroc.asu.edu/lroc/view_lroc/LRO-L-LROC-3-CDR-V1.0/M144702076LC

The Genealogist · Veteran Member

Hi papadipongo thanks for your comments and apologies for the delay in replying. What with my new grandaughter, Christmas and New Year I've been otherwise engaged so to speak. Please dont take anything at face value and check the original images on the LROC site. I have tried to provide all the co-ordinates but on the odd occasion (usually at night) I forget to do this (unforgiveable) so sorry for that.

papadipongo · Member

hey genealogist...awesome job...really some strong stuff here...the white structure with "F-arrow" or "F6" wrote on the top is one of the best find i've seen ever, and i think you spotted a lot of clear machineries in the other images....well done.

The Genealogist · Veteran Member

Lined Up 1.JPG

Slide 1 above shows a highly anomalous area of Tycho crater around the -43 -11 co-ordinates. I have highlighted 4 anomalies that interest me.

The first shows a very defined cave entarnce. The cave has no rubble or debris around the entrance as might be expected and looks carved out of the rock in a rectangular shape. (see slide 2). It also seems possible that there is a secondary cave entrance with symbol like markings on its right wall.

Lined Up 2.JPG

Slide 3 shows 5 or 6 structures aligned perfectly on the edge of a crater. What interests me is the 3rd anomaly from the top which seems to have 4 small upright objects standing in or on a plate-like structure.

Lined up 3.JPG

Lined up 4.JPG

In slide 5 have I have higlighted several sentry or floodlight-like structures standing up on the surface. They appear to be spaced evenly from each other and have a slight curve at the top. Hopefully the observer can see this clearly as I cannot improve the quality of the image.

Lined up 5.JPG

In slide 6 I have highlighted a 'shield shaped' anomaly similar to ones which have been posted to the site previously.

Lined up 6.JPG

The Genealogist · Veteran Member

In these series of slides it is not my intention to show just unusual natural formations. It is however my intention to show that natural looking formations could be used to shelter life forms whether human or otherwise. The slides show 3 quite naturally occurring geological structures if they were found here on earth ....but..... since they are on the moon further explanation must surely be required. In addition there are 2 not so natural structures.

The first anomaly appears to be a a long tubular structure with regular openings along its length. (remindfs me of a rotten tree trunk like those at my local playing field) The second appears to be an enormous arch like structure /opening and the third a ribbed structure reminiscent of an enormous dinosaur's rib cage.

The fourth anomaly is what makes the others seem not so natural after all and looks very similar to a 'cherry picker' vehicle similar to those used by our modern day lamplighters responsible for our street lighting. The fifth anomaly looks like part of a wheel structure with alternate shading. Observations welcome.

The Genealogist · Veteran Member

In this series of slides I have used evidence from 3 sources namely the LROC quick map and images M170641394R and M129369888L. I have used all 3 because 1 image differs significantly from the other 2, but to balance the case for and against the anomaly its only fair that I show the anomaly from another source in case the whole thing is due to simple lighting of the location.

Locations are shown on the slides. Source images are as follows:-

Quick Map: http://target.lroc.asu.edu/da/qmap.html

M179641394R: http://wms.lroc.asu.edu/lroc/view_lroc/LRO-L-LROC-3-CDR-V1.0/M170641394RC

This first slide shows the location of the anomalies and there proximity to each other.

Slide 3 shows the first location and what appears to be 2 anomalies. The first is what I like to call the 'Y' anomaly and previous postings have shown that these anomalies are to be found elsewhere in Yycho if not the rest of the moon. The 2nd anomaly is what looks to be a pole running through a platform situated above the large white object below. Both are shown from 2 source images. The 3rd image however M170641394R does not show either anomaly. I have tried to use the available rocks in this image to create the other 2 scenes but to no avail. At no point can I situ the rocks to give the same effect. Observations welcome even if they disprove the anomalies.

The 3rd and 4th slides below show a quite different anomaly. That of a bell with framework. Again it is clear on 2 of the sources but replaced by a long rock like structure inn the 3rd. However this time by invertying the colours in slide 4 I think I have been able to show that it may not be as clear as first thought. Observations welcome agaion.

As a slide distraction I have highlighted an additional anaomly of a 'figure' on the side of a 'rock'.

By simply inverting the colours have I uncovered tampering? Why not do it to all 3 images???

The Genealogist · Veteran Member

Thanks again Morbius for your concise and thorough visual analysis of the 'Fort complex'. Its interesting to me that the 'pyramid' shape is confirmed as it is not the first time I have found these structures. The clearest example received little interest when I posted it a while back and I have really left them alone since. The pyramid at Djoser of course has many intricate underground tunnels below its 6 solid stone layers and was the first of its kind that we know off. If the complex pyramid is real it would not have suffered from weathering so it must have been shaped that way. On the large pyramid shot your slide shows what appears to be shape of a '5'. This distinct sharp edged symbol I have found many times. Do you think your slide shows one or is it due to a form of pixellation? Thanks again

Morbius · Veteran Member

Genealogist, hello again. Have attached an 8-set study for your use in determining certain features of the ' Fort Complex .' This includes an enlargement of the 'Pyramid shape' you had labeled. the last 4 are visuals of a Dutch Gable ( roof style ) and the Bent and Step Pyramid of Djoser - both of which seem to closely correspond to that in your Fort Complex picture. This latter is quite a find and very interesting indeed ... good work Genealogist. -Morbius

polluks · Member

The rock look like a metal shield:

head&shield

head-&-shield

http://wms.lroc.asu.edu/lroc/view_lroc/LRO-L-LROC-2-EDR-V1.0/M150591659RE

PDS (252MB): M150591659RE.IMG

The Genealogist · Veteran Member

Apologies for the delay in posting this 4th slide which relates to the original posting on the 21st September below. Hopefully it is worth the wait as I've examined this slide much more in order to get the identification of each anomaly correct. It is location 3 on the original slide. Note how far the main structure comes away from the wall and the dome like structure or craft on top of it. One of the anomalies I am not too sure about is the possibility that a tube, ramp or similar structure runs along the length of the main anomaly. It looks like a shadow beneath but I cant be sure. Observations on this and the rest of the image welcome. There are other protusions from the surface visible on the map and these could all be the resiult of geological / volcanic action, but they are an anomaly none the less if for only the interesting shapes it produces.

-- Edited by The Genealogist on Thursday 27th of September 2012 10:07:04 AM

The Genealogist · Veteran Member

Morbius hi. Thanks yet again for your analysis and interpretation of the anomaly presented. It is interesting to me that you have also found historical comparisons which adds weight to the widely held view that our ancestors may have had a closer relationship with extra-terrestial vistitors than we currently do or at least know about. In my very first posting I found a type of boat shaped craft sitting on the surface of the moon. I found others exactly the same. It hasn't received a lot of attention but I went away and did some research. Lo and behold I found evidence of a similar sky boat in an ancient sumerian wooden carving. (See below) I couldnt believe what I was looking at. You will be aware that in Gobekli Tepe, Turkey they have recently uncovered a site which pre-dates Stonehenge here in England by some 6,000 years. The stone structures are all shaped like a 'T'. Whats the most common symbol I have found on the moon...a 'T' shape. I was left gobsmacked when I saw a Discovery channel programme about it. I will post evidence of this on the Temple and Symbols thread in due course as I'm still trying to find further evidence. Thanks again.

The Genealogist · Veteran Member

This is the missing slide for Anomaly 2 relating to the the Fort-like Structure. Having reviewed this anomaly over and over again I feel that the tunnel is an important part of the complex. I have a feeling that Tower 4 may not be a tower at all. The shadow suggests that this may be a surface structure with tracks leading down into the complex from the tunnel. Observations welcome.

-- Edited by The Genealogist on Monday 24th of September 2012 09:07:18 AM

Morbius · Veteran Member

genealogist, hello again. I believe this pic was one you wanted looked at? It is of a shadow-figure and caught your interest as to just what you were really looking at, if anything, so passed it on to me? I cannot say for certain whether this is a carved-relief, painted (?)-mural, hologram, for-real, or ' other '. It does however, resemble a theme common to ancient civilizations, -to show the power, glory, and authority of a reigning monarch. This appears a Throne Scene, with a great-lord in audience with a court dignitary or official, quite likely female. She has a large conical-crown or headpiece with a top-notch or ' filial '. He is very commanding in appearance as he sits on a raised throne-chair, with left arm resting on the arm of the throne. He too wears an elaborate head-piece and insignia of rank, including a pectoral, and arm/wrist bands. He is looking slightly to the right ... a typical and classic profile or ' cameo ' ( Grk. ' like me ' ). The picture, in design, depth, and subject placement are most typical ( but are not directly?) of Classical Mayan depictions, although, obviously (?) it would not seem a classical Maya Court scene would end up as a Mayan Moon Man Scene ( phone Hollywood!). And, that is about as close as I can see it for now, and attached are the original, the enhanced, and 5 Mayan ' pose ' and ' theme ' depictions for your own comparison. Sorry, that's about the best I could do for now, but still ... that's a very strange find indeed. -Morbius

The Genealogist · Veteran Member

I find it hard to believe that Location 1 in this series of slides has escaped attention especially as another anomaly from a previous post has already been cleaned up with a downgraded version of the original. The LROC Quick map has been put out as being very poor comapred to NASA hi-res originals. However, I think to reduce gaps in the mapping data hi-res versions were used but gradually these are being replaced.

In this area we have at least 3 anomalous locations. The first shows a head-like object although with a little analysis and realignment by the observer it can be seen that it in fact the anomaly consists of a series of tiered geometric structures.

(Slides for anomalies 2 and 3 yet to be posted)

Anomaly 2 is a first as it appears to be a 'Fort-like' structure with towers and walls. Outside the main structure there appears to be an entrance and a pyramid. Several other smaller anomalies surround the complex including a web of roads or ramps. The most unusual thing about this is that tehre seems to be an enormous square or rectangular screen at the back of the 'fort'. Very strange.

Anomaly 3 appears to be made up from all manner of anomalies and includes geometric structures and craft alike. If any one of these locations were seen from a helicopter in the South American jungle it would be front page news even if it turned out to be an optical illusion. Alas

Slides 3 and 4 to follow

The Genealogist · Veteran Member

In this further example of anomalies sitting on or under overhangs I have used a slight bit of enhancement on Anomaly 2.

Anomaly 1 appears to be a craft with a ramp and a type of long scoop on it side nearest the camera. Is this a type of walking machine responsible for the tracks that go up and down hill on the moons surface. The official verdict is that these 'tracks' are caused by boulders shifting themselves along the ground. Well maybe they do but this may not be the only explanation if this machine can move!! (If this anomaly was a rock how can it balance on such a narrow base?)

Anomaly 2 shows a cascading or tiered structure running from the top of the overhang to the floor infront of the long opening. Ive attempted to enhance this anomaly to show that it cannot be simply put down to rocks. I have found several exaples similar to this but they are usually obsured by a 'white cloud'. To the right o0f this are 2 dark tower like structures and a longer flat like structure running back into the darkness of the opening.

Anomalies 3 and 4 in slide 5 are not as dramatic but none the less important. Anomaly 3 shows a white object with what seems to be the letter F anmd possibly an arrow. I try not to think along the lines that these are earthly symbols or lettering but thats what it looks like.

Anomaly 4 appears to be slighly obscured but consist of 3 or 4 upright structures ansd a stand alone object just to the right none of which look natural.

If these are taken altogether surely its more than coincidence that they are all in the same location.

The Genealogist · Veteran Member

Thanks again Morbius - your software really brings the detail and shows up additional anomalies in the images. Ill be looking back at the original LROC site to see what they look like on there. (If they hant already been overwritten with a downgraded version.

You might find this series of slides interesting also. Very few of my findings have a central anomaly (labelled No 1) as clear as this. The shape of it is wonderful and I think you will agree has an almost Asian feel about it. My son thinks it's the best one I've found so far. I'll reserve judgement on that until its confirmed.

I do not believe it will be allowed to stay on the site very long so please look at the original asap.

Location of central anomaly on the LROC Act React Quick Map is Tycho Crater Lat: -42.46644 Long: -11.02618

Asian 3.JPG

Morbius · Veteran Member

Genealogist, hello, thought to tune-up your pic of the Drill (?). Whether it be a digging-in ( mining-tunnels) or dug-in ( military artillery ), is a mute question. It now lies blasted to pieces. By whom or what source we may never know, but we may be reasonably certain of what it is not, like an unusual geological-formation. As to your " shadowy, almost holographic head ..", am working on it , but so far you can be certain it will be less shadowy when completed! stay tuned. -Morbius

Morbius · Veteran Member

Attached for below. Iceman tells me only to send JPEG's, had to convert these and so you need zoom down ( size ) a bit, mabee 30% -Morbius

Morbius · Veteran Member

Genealogist: hello again. Have examined your latest find, a possible ' hovering craft ' and ' moonbase ....'. Am attaching a study set of 10 pics. 4 of the ' hovering craft ' and 6 of the ' moonbase '. Let me know what you spot or think about your newly updated pics. My impression of the ' hovering craft ' scene is that you are on to a ruin site with machinery and objects on top of a huge roof-overhang of a tunnel entrance. On all sides are the strangest array of scattered and destroyed habitats and strange containers which go on in the distance. Although mining cannot be ruled out, I feel or sense from the numerous energy-cannons, such as in the back right corner, that it was a fortified area -- which I suppose could also include a valuable mining outpost. As for the ' moonbase ' pic, obviously part of this site, this was a challenge to resolve properly. There were light smudges left that give the appearance of an old photograph. I know you are systematic, persistent, have a good eye, and can present your finds in an organized and understandable way. You also listen to your mind's interpretation, its inner perception, even though your eyes see but blurs and shades that would usually seem incomprehensible. I ask you then, take the next step and ignore or blend in the splotchy areas. Looking at them and putting them in the picture defeats a vision of what is eally there! Do this and the compressions and artifacts will fade to nothingness. Then you will see the actual picture present. Find a focus, such as the 2 story tower at the bottom right-half of the pic. Then walk right into the moonbase ...down streets, around fallen buildings. You can do it my friend, try it! It taqkes a special mind to think unconventionally, ' outside the box ', most approach subjects with a biased view, set by the world and survival .. go beyond that .. back to who you really are, and see what amazing things you can really do. Yes this, as the other sites, are mostly ruins, long deserted ... or are they? See what you can find! Finally here, sorry, I don't think Roadrunner and Wile are on the moon, sorry. And there are no porn sites there either ... it is forbidden by the Lunar Council! Till next time ... beep beep! - Morbius

attached should be above.

The Genealogist · Veteran Member

Morbius thanks so much for your analysis and confirmation of the find. As you say the area is strewn with anomalies. Put aside Roadrunner and Wile (lol) as thats only my childlike brain interpreting what I see. I'll leave 'the possible existence of 'Art-work' on the moon for another day. What I actually found interesting though is the shadowy almost holographic head to the left. Its not the first time I've seen it. Very strange I think you will agree.

-- Edited by The Genealogist on Monday 17th of September 2012 10:24:15 AM

The Genealogist · Veteran Member

In the first slide there seems to be what looks to me a hovering craft and a moonbase-like structure sitting on a ridge. Very near to this on a massive flat white 'rock' is an image of a well known cartoon character. Obviously the image is an optical illusion but the detail is truly amazing. However, it begs the question: How would an alien species communicate with us? Didnt we send Pioneer into deep space with a picture of a naked man and woman? I hope an infant alien doesnt find it!! Roadrunner would have been much less scary.

Moon Base1.JPG

Very nearby sits this impression upon a rcok, Not also the face like impressions above an below the cartoon characters image.

Roadrunner 1.JPG

The Genealogist · Veteran Member

The following 2 slides show a very strange egg like anomaly. I don't know of any processes that could exist on the moon to produce such an object.......... but I have an open mind... so please let me know your solution to the problem.

Egg 2.JPG

The Genealogist · Veteran Member

Just to the south of the 'furnace' like anomaly is another strange object half lit and half in shadow. I have put forward a suggestion on what the object may look like in full sunlight. If I can find another image of this location on the NASA database it may shine light on the subject so to speak. Interesting all the same. Observations welcome. The location is given at the top of the image.

The Genealogist · Veteran Member

Following leads from a book I've been reading recently I've managed to find a very nice 'scene' on the rim of Tycho to the East which suggests that some sort of chemical process is actually going on as the LROC flew overhead. The craft like anomaly has a fuselage together with an insignia on the side the latter of which I have come across before. This central cratft-like object is surrounded by anomalies which look like support craft or machinery. The light being emitted from a squarish opening at the top of the craft appears to cause light distortion as it rises upwards. This would suggest that in addition to the light, heat or possibly even gas are also being emitted.

Observations on this are very welcome as I am far from an expert on how heat and gas would react in a vacuum on the moon.

LROC Act React Map Lat -42.72574 Long -9.60405

Furnace 1.JPG

The Genealogist · Veteran Member

When researching material for these posts I come across many ideas on the fact that the moon is being excavated or mined. In George H Leonards book 'Someone else is on the moon' he puts forward the suggestion as long ago as 1976 that X drones are used to slice enormous chunks of rock from the sides of craters. Although I think I have found his 'X' drones to which he refers I have yet to see them performing in this way. However in this series of slides I think I can support the argument that the moon is being excavated. Even better still the possible start of a tunnel boring operation with living quarters nearby.

Link http://target.lroc.asu.edu/da/qmap.html

Location Area : Lat -43.043 Long -11.739

In a coupkle of instances I have shown images of earthbound equivalents to show that the technology is not that different from our own.

Boring 2.JPG Boring 3.JPG Boring 4.JPG

The Genealogist · Veteran Member

From my perspective the floor of Tycho crater seems to be awash with anomalies. My contribution to cataloging just some of these appears in the slides below. I have attempted to show similar anomalies which appear elsewhere in the crater. Hopefully this adds weight to dispel any thoughts that these are just 'shadow rocks and boulders' However observations welcome.

Link http://target.lroc.asu.edu/da/qmap.html

For the Location area type Lat -42.89525 Long –11.13117 into the respective boxes on the site.

Anomalies identified have been magnified and contrast adjusted by approx 10% using Powerpoint but no other enhancement has been used.

-- Edited by The Genealogist on Wednesday 8th of August 2012 04:38:51 PM

The Genealogist · Veteran Member

Moving slightly North East of an anomaly posted on this thread on the 2nd July I came across a location with a number of statue-like anomalies. These anomalies seem to be in a sort of oval layout with a clear area at its centre. I would be interested to hear members views on the original images taken from the LROC Act React Website. Can rocks and shadows alone be responsible for the shapes seen here?

Link http://target.lroc.asu.edu/da/qmap.html

Location Area Lat -42.81728 Long -10.41302

Templelike 2.JPG

The Genealogist · Veteran Member

Morbius thank you for your comments and your analysis - it is most welcome and helps to keep this anomaly 'alive' now that it has been overwritten by th epowers that be with a much poorer image. I felt that there was probably more to be seen in the shadows around the helmet shaped building so Im glad that you have been able to show that. I only use 'Paint' and 'Powerpoint' and it has served me well but it has limitations when trying to decipher the foreground pixels from the background. I wonder whether you are able to tell anything from the latest versions taken by the LROC in full daylight?

The Genealogist · Veteran Member

This series of slides show a range of anomalies slightly apart but it the same general location. Two of the anomalies appear to me to be rings or discs of some sort stationed on top of large rocks and two other seem to be vehicle type anomalies. The main anomaly however is intriguing as it seems to be a machine holding either a rock or something else which has received the obscuration treatment. Just 'standing' to the right side of this machine like anomaly appears to be the upper bodies of 2 figures. Of course this image has been highly magnified and I do not expect everyone to agree. I am happy for members to give me their view even if it proves the opposite. Please take a look at the original image on the LROC Act React website.

The location of the main anomaly is Lat -43.10880 Long -11.00947

2 heads 1.JPG 2 Heads 2.JPG 2 Heads 3.JPG 2 Heads 4.JPG 2 Heads 5.JPG

-- Edited by The Genealogist on Tuesday 24th of July 2012 11:07:15 PM

Morbius · Veteran Member

Hello Genealogist. In your sub-heading Concentrated Anomalies in Tycho Crater ( pic square 3 ). The 'Main Building' is correctly identified, the 'Ramps?' are actually the rootops of other buildings in the cluster. Am attaching a couple studies of this scene and a significant detail observed is that near all the buildings are emblazoned with a series of numbers or symbols. It takes a little adjusting and patience, but they will come into focus as you brouse through and study the scene, use a slight zoom if it helps. This is one of the most mysterious set of ruins, the original builders and purpose seem near unimaginable to our present civilization and mores. Truly ancient and a most excellent find Genealogist. Will send some results on another pic of interest, which I believe is a pilot and fusilage ruins you have located. Good work!

Morbius

The Genealogist · Veteran Member

The Genealogist wrote:
On the 13th July I posted (to this thread) an image of an object which reminds me of a pilot still sitting in his ejector seat. This image reminds me of a King still sitting on his throne. Although very much in shadow what interests me is the way in which the head of the figure casts its own shadow onto the 'rock' / 'seat' behind. I have shown the location of this anomaly from altitude (top left) in order to show just where it is situated. I think this area is interesting in itself.

The Genealogist · Veteran Member

On the 13th July I posted (to this thread) an image of an object which reminds me of a pilot still sitting in his ejector seat. This image reminds me of a King still sitting on his throne. Although very much in shadow what interests me is the way in which the head of the figure casts its own shadow onto the 'rock' / 'seat' behind. I have shown the location of this anomaly from altitude (top left) in order to show just where it is situated. I think this area is interesting in itself.

The Genealogist · Veteran Member

Hi MA thanks for your reply. Your points re scale are duly noted.

All I have to go on is the scale on the bottom left of the LROC map. In order to give more focus to the central part of the image I usually have to trim them off before loading to this site. What I can do is copy and paste it I guess so that it appears everytime. I totally agree with you regarding rock and boulder patterns and what looks like the results of ancient volcanic activity. I think that I have come across thousands upon thousands of anomalous rocks but every now and then something stands out from the background. I scan the surface at 0.5mpix which is the maximum magnification on the site. However I have no idea whether this scale is right since I only have Arizona's measurements to go on. As I've said before I am not a photographic expert however what strikes me sometimes is not what I find but what I 'cant find'. Having taken a frame from the site I later return to find the images containing anomalies have disappeared - simply because the original LRO camera images are constantly being overwritten.

I'll leave you with this thought. I started thinking that I was seeing 'alien artefacts' and 'anomalies' because thats what I wanted or expected to see. So for 4 hours one day I decided to look for nothing but anomalies which looked like everyday kitchen tools. I found absolutely nothing even remotely resembling anything. Not a spoon or a whisk in site. Lol

Mark Anthony · Member

Thanks, I've been searching over the LROC images and found many anomalies too. My question though is what the scale is campared to - let's say a human being or a building. In my opinion I feel that most of what I see are piles of rocks but on the various occasions I see - in my mind - organized circle stone rings or machinery. I just wish there was more depth. While I do feel that there are probably 'robot'-type things on the lunar surface - I wonder how large they might be. I just can't find any scale to judge it by accurately... When I walk down the streams or creek beds on Earth I often find metallic meteorites and carbonacious stones from the glaciers and know that they pile up. In fact I know of a giant iron stone that landed in a creek bed on the New York / Pennsylvania state line in a steam that would take a heavy duty crane to pull out but noone will touch it. I wonder if we are looking a debris fills on the moon or just random stones. I want to believe. Keep up the good work.

The Genealogist · Veteran Member

3rd Anomaly at Lat -43.40210 Long -11.35075 given the cleaning treatment.

On the 11th June I posted a series of slides to this thread which included a Tower-like anomaly. It looked to me that ramps seemed to be coming off either side. Since June the ASU have overwritten this area with new photos from the LRO camera. The following 3 slides compare the original anomaly with what 'appears' now on the new map.

Slide 1 shows the original slide posted to this thread on the 11th June.

Slide 2 shows the new image. It seems in order to fill gaps in the mapping data the now 'tower-like' anomaly appears twice at different co-ordinates. Co-ordinates are supplied on each image.

Slide 3 tries to show a comaprison between the original image and the 2 new ones.

Please note slide 2 contains an error. The Latitude and Longitude co-ordinates of the top right tower should be reversed. Apologies

Tower 1.JPG

Tower 2.JPG

Tower 3.JPG

-- Edited by The Genealogist on Monday 16th of July 2012 12:34:42 PM

Levelwind · Senior Member

Reminds me of the War Of The Worlds robot. Looks like he would be about the right size too. Is he just taking a rest or do you think he's been there a while? And what that sitting by his left hand? Cool find.

Robot_3 with arrow.jpg

The Genealogist · Veteran Member

Levelwind hi, thanks for your comments they are much appreciated. I'm afraid I really do not have any more answers than you do. My initial thoughts were that this is probably an optical illusion because of its size, but having found similar robot like anomalies, these also appear to be enormous.

Whats interesting to me is that this object is similar to the one where the 'alien' looking figure sits with his back to his 'craft'. He doesnt seem to have a lower body either. (I've posted the picture below for comparison, hopefully you can see it) I'd love to think that both could be robotic or bio-mechanical. Either way I think they have probably been there for a millenia and either way I hope they will be a talking point for a long time to come. Please be advised that this image was sent to the Arizona State University for their comment. Their reply is posted along with this photo on another thread.

Alien revisited.JPG

-- Edited by The Genealogist on Friday 13th of July 2012 08:47:34 AM

The Genealogist · Veteran Member

I've done a little more analysis on this object and would therefore be really grateful for observers opinion's even counter arguments to my theory.

Robot 3.JPG

-- Edited by The Genealogist on Tuesday 10th of July 2012 07:34:22 PM

The Genealogist · Veteran Member

Having seen several Robot Head anomalies identified by observers on the net I thought I would add my pennies worth to the case study. In this series of 5 slides I have added a little brightness and contrast enhancement to the original LROC image using Powerpoint. The percentages used have been indicated. No other enhancement has been used. It will be noted that very few rocks lie nearby so shadow anomalies are minimal.

Link http://target.lroc.asu.edu/da/qmap.html

Location: -43.01128 -11.77051

Observations or alternative photos of this Location are most welcome.

Robot 1.JPG Robot 2.JPG Robot 4.JPG Robot 5.JPG

The Genealogist · Veteran Member

Thanks geomeo for your comment it is much appreciated. For every anomaly I find which seems within limits (ie building-like, craft-like etc) I seem to find 3 which just defy explanantion. Its these ones that I have always been reluctant to post because it should be easy to shoot them down. However I feel that I may now be up against time itself where the owners of the image are concerned so I feel I should make a start showing some of them. There are probably quite simple explanations but at the moment I dont have any.

The anomaly in the following slide both amazed me and worried me as I just cant explain it. If its a collection of rocks or the result of ancient volcanic action its surely the one of the most amazing naturally formed shapes ever discovered on the moon. If its a trick of the light or an optical illusion well it still stands up as amazing even on that count. Please have a look at the original. Its very clear on the LROC website even at the maximum magnification of 0.5 mpp. I have shown enlarged versions only from this image and have used no other enhancement.

Link http://target.lroc.asu.edu/da/qmap.html

Type Location Lat -42.82228 Long -10.42171

If anyone has an explanation please share it....

Please note that an anomaly in the left bottom corner has been covered in an earlier post on this thread

Little Devil 1.JPG

Little Devil 2.JPG Little Devil 3.JPG

geomeo · Member

These are really well done and clear..thx..all of your work is very thought provoking.

The Genealogist · Veteran Member

2nd Location given the 'cleaning Treatment'

With the 'lower' quality images now overlaid on the LROC Quick map at Co-ordinates: Lat -43 and Long -12, I have been looking to see what else has received 'the treatment'.

Suffice to say when I am wrong I'm prepared to say 'I was wrong'.

With that in mind in the image below you will find what I like to call the 'T Cave' entrance which I also uploaded on the 17th May 2012 while covering this location. Its just slightly below or south of 'the tube' anomaly. Despite the quality now being poorer even I can see that what I thought were craft may be nothing more than big boulders that have come to rest in an interesting pattern. These have been ticked on the lower image. However some things do not look right and I have marked these with a cross 'X' or a question mark '?' next to them.

It can be seen that the actual entrance (yellow box) with the T Block above it has been totally obscurred in the latest image. It is also in a totally different location with different co-ordinates.

The more convincing craft like object top right (blue box) looks nothing like the object in the recent picture. To me the thing I noticed first was that the entrance was clear of debris!!! It still is if you look carefully. How is this possible? Even with lower gravity boulders will roll down a hill. The cave like entrance is at the base of a hill.

T Cave 1.JPG

The Genealogist · Veteran Member

ARIZONA DOWNGRADE IMAGE POSTED HERE 17th MAY 2012

On the very day I suggest that 'The Tube' anomaly below is possibly the same as 'The Castle' anomaly Arizona University OVERWRITE the ORIGINAL image with a downgraded version. This tells me EVERYTHING I need to know.

Please see the original version I uploaded to this site on the 17TH MAY 2012 and the version that was there only yesterday when I checked it for my previous post.

Please check the image now on the website.

Link: http://target.lroc.asu.edu/da/qmap.html

Lat -43.83654 Long -12.48515 (Tycho Crater)

The image is now terrible and the tube looks nothing like it did. Then look at the one I posted on the 17th May below. My Powerpoint package is good but not that good that I can create finite DETAIL.

1 This is my Original Photo

Tube 1.JPG

2 The same location at same magnification now. (albeit different photo completely ie different time and orbit of LROC)

Tube 2.JPG

Closer Examination of both Locations 17th May 2012 v 29th June 2012

Tube 3.JPG

-- Edited by The Genealogist on Friday 29th of June 2012 07:34:27 PM

The Genealogist · Veteran Member

I am working on the theory that 'the tube' posted below on the 17th May could be part of an anomaly found by other researchers many, many years ago or at least something very much like it. That anomaly was given the name 'The Castle'. However while looking at the photos I have stored I realised that there was something else I had missed the first time round. The object in question is that of a humanoid like figure standing in front of a pure white rock. The figure does look solid but I'm sure the casual observer will make their own mind up on this one as it is impossible to prove one way or the other. If its an optuical illusion its a pretty neat one at that.

Link: http://target.lroc.asu.edu/da/qmap.html

Lat -43.83654 Long -12.48515 (Tycho Crater)

Warrior 1.JPG

The Genealogist · Veteran Member

These 3 slides showan area of concentrated anomalies which includes what looks like a chess piece and a number of geometric shapes which do not look natural.

Site: http://target.lroc.asu.edu/da/qmap.html

Location : Lat -42.82738 Long -10.42500

Pill Box A.JPG

Pill Box 1.JPG Pill Box 2.JPG

The Genealogist · Veteran Member

Chandre thank you for you comments they are much appreciated. Im sorry you cant see the LROC maps that well - hopefully NASA (Arizona) will improve the quality in the future which will offset the lack of bandwidth.

I have been spending time on the internet recently looking at a lot of material that has been posted by people over the past decade. A common theme appears to be that the moon is being mined. I looked through my images and found the following slide which may add to this argument. In this photo you will also see an object which has been partially obscured. Although this obscuration is common on the map a small part of the anomaly always seems to be left showing. I find this very strange. Its as if to wipe it out completely cannot be justified by the scientists working on these images. Leaving a small part showing means it hasnt been erased and therefore they can rest easy at night.

Again the anomalies are within Tycho crater and have been taken from the LROC Act React Web site.

Link: http://target.lroc.asu.edu/da/qmap.html

Type Location: Lat -42.77708 Long -10.42137

Drill 1.JPG

Observations welome.

Drill 2.JPG Drill 3.JPG

Chandre · Dedicated to the truth

TG, the work you are presenting is fsacinating, thank you !

Sadly, I cannot get the detail you do from the LROC Map, quality is far worse perhaps because of limited accessibility/bandwidth in South Africa so I cannot work on the images and add comments, I can just sit back and enjoy the show.....

Your comments on the anomalies being concentrated in certian areas seems true, when Kaguya posted it's first Tycho images I was so excited as the detail was great and there were terraced anomalies clearly visble along the walls. Later I went back to download the images to work on them and suddenly the quality was not the same and these areas were now blurred. Very dissapointing considering Japanese superior imaging technology.

The Genealogist · Veteran Member

At this Location there are so many anomalies I have highlighted just a few and magnified just 2. The first at the top left corner shows a magnified image of an anomaly which has the clear image of a number '2'. The image has been turned 180 degrees from the original in the main photo. The second top right shows a magnified image of a triangular object most of which I feel is hidden by shadows. The actual object may be 'can' shaped like the one in the slide below as it has a very similar look to it. Some may say that the number '2' is an optical illusion. Well I will shortly demonstrate that there are other examples in Tycho of other numbers including 1,4, 5 and 7. These are very clear.

LROC Map - Tycho Crater Lat -43.03422 Long -11.74951

The No 2.JPG

-- Edited by The Genealogist on Thursday 21st of June 2012 06:30:42 AM