Alien Anomalies

Hi Marsrocks, the image from sol438 are very helpful. Together with that from sol477, it is now much better to interpret the contours of the rock. Just with the sol477-image it seems as there is only one large rock, but in direct comparison, it is possible to show that behind the (head)rock is another large rock structure. That's good, because there has to be more large rocks.

The different shadows in both images give also a better impression, that behind the rock formation is a small slope and the mosaic view show that the rock formation lies on small elevation. There may still be other pieces of the assumed statue. I suppose there are no pictures, showing the concealed area (but I am open for surprises). It's just a theory, but with this new image view I have enough details to try to look for similar counterparts. Why are there so many anomalies on Mars? I'm still busy with sol2161...

It was also quite interesting to check the pancam Website of the Cornell University. Found some useful details there.

marsrocks wrote:

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http://pancam.astro.cornell.edu/pancam_instrument/438A_P2382.html

 

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 Thanks marsrocks! A rich site

Spirit sol 477 pan:

http://pancam.astro.cornell.edu/pancam_instrument/477A_new.html

galapogos iguana king?

there are alot of "rock creatures" on mars.

how else would they look?

surface dwellers need protection. 

moai? looks good...but.....who knows, till we get there.

Hi convex! Thanks for the encouragement! I'm glad you found them useful.

From my point of view,  the sector which is on the left of the "sculpture" also contains interesting objects.  Unfortunately I could not find a more high-quality images and I do not rule out that it is just my imagination going wild

Spirit sol 477:

http://marsrovers.jpl.nasa.gov/gallery/all/2/p/477/2P168710702EFFAAACP2282L2M1.JPG

http://marsrovers.jpl.nasa.gov/gallery/all/2/p/477/2P168710735EFFAAACP2282L5M1.JPG

http://marsrovers.jpl.nasa.gov/gallery/all/2/p/477/2P168710762EFFAAACP2282L7M1.JPG

http://marsrovers.jpl.nasa.gov/gallery/all/2/p/477/2P168710794EFFAAACP2282R1M1.JPG

and 90-degree rotation...

Hi everybody,
it is very interessting to follow the discussion here and to see that you all have found several anomalous details, indicating that the shown stone formations carries features for artificial processing.

I agree with you all and it is becoming clearer and clearer, that there is something special here. But what? Are there enough traces that could allow us some kind of reconstruction? Is it possible to explain, why there are so many anomalies, rectangular structures an right angles? Are these just fragments of something artificial? Rubble?

I would like to present another theory for a possible interpretation and reconstruction - And I would like to know what you think about it


The shape and the contours of the rocks create wild patterns that are difficult to decipher. In such cases, there are several procedures in order to get some logic into an image.

Step one: The first impression

My main interest lies on the large rock structure at the left. This structure contains so many curious details, it cries out for a
thorough investigation.



What is our first impression? Mabye I'm wrong, but I assume that most of us had the impression to see an sculpture of some kind of animal in the first moment. However, this impression can not be clearly assigned to an specific animal. Because of the fact, that our brain always tries to see logic elements in chaotic patterns, it is possible to assign physical attributes within this rock structure.



Admittedly, the result is not really satisfactory. Of course it could be an unknown animal being, or a mythical figure. But this interpretation would be too simple. One should not try to force an explanation. The image must speak for itself. In order to bring more clarity, it is important to look out for clues that provide a more objective explanation and less subjective.

Step two: Indications for artificiality

Clear-cut lines and right angles are usefull indicators. We can find such indicators in the back part of this large stone structure.
In the following image some of these special details have been higlighted.



The highlighted details show that some lines are parallel. That is amazing. The shapes are almost very technical and not natural. An interesting question would be, why would an animal need right angles? They do not look like animal characteristics. This may be a first hint that the first impression is probably wrong.

Step three: check different viewing angles

Right angles and parallel lines, however, often provide another important clue! Sometimes such details can reveal how something is aligned. It could be, that we got an incorrect impression of the orientation!

Based on these lines and angles, we can now rotate the picture and see if this approach provides a new logic.



The rotation offers a whole new aspect. The new image now gives the impression of a human-like head sculpture. By highlighting the contours, it is possible to detect anatomic characteristic like the whole shape of the head, an eye (with the pupil), the eye brows and some kind of helmet with a broad rim.



But we still have some problems. Where is the nose? And what's up with the mouth? Does it look strange because of alien anatomy? Perhaps this would be again a too simple viewing in order to explain inconsistencies. To find an possible explaination we have to check examples here on earth, that show appropriate similarities with the details on Mars. "Nemrut Dağı" or Mount Nemrut in Turkey is such a good example. There we can find the remains of large ancient statues.



Particulary interesting are the remains of stone heads that broke off by the effect of earthquakes or by willful destruction.



Here we can see that a series of figures show signs of damages in the area of the nose and the lower jaw. These are protuding areas and they are always very sensitive because their structural integrity is subject to special burden/stress. (Like the missing nose and the beard of the Sphinx). Exactly the same effect could be the case here.

If we try to keep the proportions, then we get the following result.



What makes this theory attractive is the circumstance that the outlines of stone, do not cross the red line. Otherwise the proportions would be disturbed.

Because of the fact that the features in back part of this "sculpture" goes conform with the alignment of the head, it means that head and the back part is connected. They are one block. How can we explain this?

Usually statues stand free and they haven't extensions in the rear area. But there are exceptions! Free standing statues are not very durable and stable, if they are exposed to the natural forces for a long time and they are more difficult to build because they must keep in balance. It solve many technical problems, if you connect the statue with some kind of connection bridge or bar in the rear area.

We can see such a solution in the following image:


Very impressive is the right example. It shows a fragment of a small statue of Tutankhamun. This one shows several conceptual
similarities with our example from Mars.

Altogether, this theory might provide a series of explanations. It would mean, that the large rock strukture is a head fragment of a statue, standing upside down. The features (parallel lines and right angles) in back part, can be used to show the true alignment of the fragment. They also show that this part is connected with the head. This detail reveal, how the statue was built. It isn't a free standing statue. Moreover it explains why the head is stuck in this strange position. If it would be a loose head, then we would expect that the head lies on the side, like on this old foto from Nemrut Dagi.



But this structure remains firmly on the edge, because it has the extended part behind the head an that allow it to maintain its oblique position.



It would also mean that on the left side of the image from Spirit we could discover the rest of the statue. Clear evidences of artificial remains. I haven't checked it, but are there any images of Spirit showing more of this area?

I would expect, that there will be no images showing this important area, because this would be too obvious, too revealing. :/

marsrocks, excellent work!!!

One of polluks marked objects appears to be a very flat object of even thickness with smooth surfaces - its shape appears very rectangular:

Spirit sol 477

http://pds-imaging.jpl.nasa.gov/data/mer....282l7m1.img.jpg

http://pds-imaging.jpl.nasa.gov/data/mer....282r1m1.img.jpg

PDS links of polluk's area:

http://pds-imaging.jpl.nasa.gov/data/mer....282l7m1.img.jpg

http://pds-imaging.jpl.nasa.gov/data/mer....282r1m1.img.jpg

Hi Polluks,
these are interesting details. The stones are already severely eroded, but they look very suspicious indeed. At the moment I don't know which style this could be, if this is artificial. I have saved the image for further investigations. If I can find an appropiate reference for these stones, i'll post it here. Or perhaps you can find some. The image contains several conspicuous structures and it seems that you have marked all of them. Good work. Thank you for posting this!

The other example you have posted is however difficult to assess because it is extremly difficult to detect contours. Even the post-processing of the image does not bring clarity. Sometimes it is quite possible that nature produces such forms. We must keep in mind that our brain is always trying to recognize faces and logical forms in chaotic patterns. Therefore, it is helpful if there are several striking anomalies in one image or in one small area. This increases the probability for the presence of artificial structures. Unless an unusual structure shows very clear abnormalities.

Cheers!

Another one sculptured object that looks like a head ("Avatar"):

From: Opportunity Navigation Camera :: Sol 2737

This is a great example, WLW.

Does anyone know if there is a word for a sculptured object which is a part of a stone block?

Xenon, thanks for the information about "tonnes of anomalies". Now just look at the tracks of the rover and where the end of them. To be honest, I'm shocked by what I saw. The original images have distortion. Therefore  I had to give them a little perspective:

rdunk, yes in that post that "rock" really looks like a "birdish face".

I just don't see the statue head, but there are tonnes of anomalies throughout the image, more so for me are the tracks of the rover (centre right of the main image... Here )

I apologize if this has already been discussed, but could someone tell where to get more quality shots of this statue or sector on Mars: 1°38'49.04"S 94°58'1.83"E  in Google Mars
(Latitude: -1.64° Longitude: 94.97°) 

A common chord of 'intelligent design' running through all species on our planet appears to be bilateral symmetry. What I mean by this is that if you cut a specimen in half lengthways you can mirror the other half to see the whole creature. This is not my theory, as I understand it is a common belief.

So...if every species on our planet shows this design (and we obviously have had contact with other planets in our solar system) then it follows that species on neighbouring planets should also have this symmetry in design even though they may look different. I proposed that if you can dissect it in two and then mirror it and it proves to be symmetrical there is a good chance it is not a 'natural' object but rather an artificial one or a lifeform.

Just an idea and open to comment.

Hi MarsRocks,

some of your image examples are new to me. Very interesting.

Do you have the references to these images. Is it on your Website?

Hi Everybody,
thank you to both of you. It is always interesting  to hear the different opinions and concepts. At least, we all share the conviction that we are not alone and that Mars is a box full of surprises.

The physical aspects of alien lifeforms is a highly interesting topic.
Even if alien lifeforms have a humanoid appearance, I wouldn't associate it with a "friendlier" image. I have no emotional feelings about that. But this is just my personal opinion. However, I can also imagine that there are people, who create in their subconsciousness a humanlike image of aliens. That could be an fatal error and a source for many misinterpretations.

Another interesting question is, how many different extraterrestrial lifeforms we do have in our galaxy. The presence of intelligent liveforms could be a basic constant in our universe. I would not be surprised if there is a huge amount of different alien lifeforms.

"Dont forget too, the original idea of the authorities was probably to 'protect' us from such a huge shock (and of course the confusion and religious and moral breakdown of society). It is only since the secrecy has built up that other agendas have insidiously crept in."
I agree with you. In all points.

Well, concerning this anomaly we try to do three things:
1. to find more indications that underlines the artificiality of the structures.
2. to calculate the sizes (that may be a part of point 1)
3. to find appropriate terrestrial counterparts (based on the stone heads)

WLW, I've focused on ancient sculptures in Asia. But your example of egypt stone heads, especially those of Akhenaten/Echnaton are really good ones. And your're right, the headress is a special feature. The reconstruction through morphing effects have its limits. The reason lies in the shape of the hat. Such technique can not create a completely realistic impression of the headdress. But i found the reason for this problem. The tricorn hat is a dead end. A misinterpretation of visual data. I have to create a new image template and will publish the new image here. Perhaps you can recognize new cultural-historical similarities.

Funny situation. We have two threads with the same image to discuss. Yes, the hat you think of is the tricorn hat. It was very popular in Europe. But the tricorn is not ancient. It is not very old. This is strange. It can not work. But convex said, he has a better rekonstruction of the head. Let's wait what surprise he has for us.

I have once read a paper about exo-biology. Saved somwhere on my old harddisks. It was about a professor and his theory that alien lifeform can look like humans. Not exactly like the human but with many parallels to human features. Sorry - i can not explain it in his words. i must find this paper again!! In a documentation in >Ancient Aliens< they talk about Pharaoh Echnaton too. He was special in his appearance. Elongated head, long face. They speculated about Echnatons origin. On the egypt reliefs we can see he is humanlike but in strange kind. I never saw an alien ^^. But i think there are aliens that are completely different from us and aliens that have a lot of in common with us. Both is possible - I think. It is not imagination my friend. We are not blind. It is only the logic conclusion. We must collect more images; more evidences - then we will understand.

Hi. i have a problem. The face is the problem!!
I tried to collect examples with the same parallels, the same features.
Sometimes the face do remind to egypt versions. The long face features remind me to pharaoh Echnaton.

But the Hat is weird. Their is nothing like this. Is the reconstruction image binding?
Are there any alternatives? If there are any, the chances are better!!

(Thx, but i don*t like it there. They did not answer. It dosen*t matter.)

Hallo convex! your find is of special interest for me!! I want to share some pictures with you. I have more of them you are maybe interested in. Please answer my email message. It is very important!!

You spoke about ->counterparts<- here on earth? Here are some. Do you see the parallels?

Is that what you have imagined? Sorry for my english. Still learning and i learn german too, because i am studing in Bonn!

Tschüss und good bye!