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Xenon wrote:
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Yes, I subsequently read that too, but what I thought was strange is - as you say - they re-released it on 21 apr 2011. Why bother to do that I wonder?

The answer to this is in the article itself so i will copy/paste it.

It is curious, to say the least, that this document was cleared for release on October 21, 2004.  Why was that?  Because the NSA did not release it into public information until April 21, 2011.  Though cleared for release, the NSA had been stonewalling it along with hundreds of other NSA documents about contact with UFOs and extraterrestrials until they lost the lawsuit brought by Peter Gersten,a lawyer from Arizona.  When they well and truly lost, the judge’s order had to be carried out, and the documents had to be released. (and so april 21, 2011 is the real date they released it)

By the way! i was thinking that ma-by because it was communicated trough sputnik and being a Russian satellite in a time that was very turbulent it may be a hoax by the Russians from this time area. confuse

And of-course when the translated some of the messages then what did it say? and is it important. hmm  well i'm sure that they will never tell us, or it must be a mistake so afterward they can still deny it.

Ma-by some day?......................


 



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It is a false hope that anyone other than ourselves will be able to save us from our predicament. Putting our trust in those who want us to take their advice may seem like a good thing, but it opens the door to massive manipulation towards off-world agendas about which we have no idea.

 

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I am afraid we will have to disagree on the 'friendly aliens' bit as I do not see much evidence for that. However, I do see reports of abductions and animal mutilations which suggest to me that any being who does that kind of thing is far from friendly.

It is an unfortunate fact of life that any friendly aliens are more likely to make private contact with humans who are reasonably behaved and at least have a smitchen of decency. By doing that they can work with individuals to bring about whatever is our collective best outcome. 

I know I may be treading rather hard on some religious toes but it seems to me that there are a lot of manipulative beings pretending to be spirit guides, angels, JC, or this saint or that saint. The people who are able to channel these beings are more often than not just looking for a superior being to worship, look up to or to relieve them of their responsibility. 

It is a false hope that anyone other than ourselves will be able to save us from our predicament. Putting our trust in those who want us to take their advice may seem like a good thing, but it opens the door to massive manipulation towards off-world agendas about which we have no idea.

No, we have made our bed, now we have to lie in it without any external saviours.



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qmantoo wrote:

Yes, I subsequently read that too, but what I thought was strange is - as you say - they re-released it on 21 apr 2011. Why bother to do that I wonder?

Over the past two decades The media has become a strange entity for both false flagging and at the same time promoting the reports of alien visitation and contact (both past and present), more recently discovery and history channels seem to have a lot of programs on the subject, plus many celebrities have come forward promoting ET, however the mainstream official stance has remained negative on the subject.

As I have said many times before the youth of today accept that ET is real, but like the 1950s B-movies ET is often portrayed as hostile invaders in the media used by them, there by setting up more barriers that need to be torn down in the call for disclosure.

It is the minority elite that controls the media and true scientific knowledge, and although they have control of our everyday material lives they are very much out of touch with the wider world they have created, showing them that the world can be a more peaceful prosperous place if given disclosure was never going to be easy.... Because when the truth comes out it is unlikely they would ever have immunity for their crimes.

 

 



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Yes, I subsequently read that too, but what I thought was strange is - as you say - they re-released it on 21 apr 2011. Why bother to do that I wonder?

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I was under the impression the document was related to an exercise and not a real event (open minds did post clarification that it was an exercise), even so it does seem strange for them to re-release the article when SETI funding has been stopped.




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Thanks to SirHenry for bringing this link up for attention. I think that it deserves more discussion.

Debunkers are scared as hell of the release of this information as it proves beyond any doubt that they are, and always have been, dead wrong. Their careers as debunkers are finished in light of the revelation of this material. They are already using the only possible “tool” left to them by saying, “That’s old information. It’s been out there for years.”

As usual, they are either just uninformed, or outright lying. It is true the document was cleared for release on October 21, 2004. It is true that date is from “years”. But it is also true that it WAS NOT released until April 21, 2011.  link to the article

Google “Key To Extraterrestrial Messages” and see the various discussions there

NSA document - Key to ET Messages pdf

Open Minds website article 



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