Alien Anomalies

Chandre · Dedicated to the truth

RE: Something is not quite right

qmantoo · Teaching the truth

The point is that we have to accept that this kind of subject brings with it the sceptics and the debunkers. If we are not prepared to be civil and polite to these kind of people, then we do not deserve to be posting here. Ultimately, it is our choice, stay and play by the rules of the forum or leave and play somewhere else.

If we want to post personal comments, then they will be deleted by the moderators because we want EVERYONE to have the same freedoms to express their opinion without being insulted - either directly or in heavily veiled language. If you stick to just discussing the topic, you cannot go wrong.

In this context, "everyone" means both sides of the camp and just because one side chooses to follow the orthodox belief system, does not mean that we have to attack them or their views. Both views can exist side-by-side and if we do not express our ideas in a way that they can relate to (ie: in scientific terms) then they can tell us that they need this in order to take our opinion seriously.

On the other hand, we also expect the orthodox-view to be polite and respectful of our side of the argument. No-one says they have to accept it, just like we do not have to accept the 'official' view of the information which is released to the public.

It is the personal attacks and disrespectful behaviour which are unacceptable here on this forum.

Timewarp · Dedicated to the truth

Xenon, your reply is most welcome.

There are many forums on the internet dealing with planetary issues including the Moon and Mars, but unfortunately, some of them have strict rules that place severe restrictions on members being able to express or even discuss certain topics. Some of these forums do not allow the posting of images relating to surface objects and artifacts although some of these particular features, if they were allowed to be displayed, may have been of interest to other members. This form of blanket censorship tends to stifle a scientific awareness and understanding of what could be, or really is, 'out there'.

Members who feel they have made a virgin discovery, even though it may have been dismissed by the scientific community, should still be able to project their views and opinions openly without fear of ridicule or verbal retribution from other members.

Here on this forum, we are very fortunate and privileged in not having these types of strict rules and we should respect the freedoms that are allowed. We are able to post images of surface objects and artifacts and discuss what a member may have found.

Does it really matter if the forum is infiltrated by professional debunkers who counter a post or try to disprove a members' theory? They have the same right to express their views and opinions, even if we do not agree with what they are saying. I can fully understand why, in some circumstances, things could get a little out of hand if these members start to force their professional or scientific views on others or even attempt to make a member begin to look a fool. This type of behaviour is not favoured and should be vigorously discouraged.

This particular community is very special as the majority of members are serious in their research of looking for the truth and trying to find something that could be a reality and not a fiction. All we need for the forum to be successful is patience, tolerance and a little understanding of what others are trying to say, nothing more.

fruitnut1 · Dedicated to the truth

I am so sorry Xenon that you have lost your 30 years of research. But that’s life. If it wasn’t because you were stepping on somebody else’s shoes this would not have happened.

You see, a group of bureaucrats from the top to the bottom of the pyramid has taken over space agencies. As Mr Skipper has revealed it so many times the photographs dating back to the sixties (and I have evidence of possible tampering being applied as early as the late 1800s) have been manipulated – and continue to this date. They have crystal clear pictures of the corresponding misrepresentations they release to the public, and are supported by the MSM.

Credibility is not synonymous with honesty , as as you may know the MSM has been hijacked by the same people and interests that lead said people to conceal their photographs in montages, that even educated people as yourself are ready to accept as truthful representations.

In part I understand why they obscure them. But one thing is photoshopping them and another making up stories having everybody believe currently humankind is as advanced as the people riding the Enteprise Star Ship, when unfortunately it’s not the case.

I have shown in this forum dozens of pictures proving my point above, Mr Skipper has proved that even google is playing along, and the last thing I have shown is that the rover pictures are forged. However people are so shy to discuss the evidence so we are able to eventually say WE HAVE DEFNITIVE EVIDENCE OF space agencies faking their visual material, and making up stories, that I doubt the truth can come out without you guys committing yourselves one way or the other.

Respectfully,

-- Frutty (The Tutti)

Xenon · Administrator

fruitnut1 wrote:

Iceman, pointed at it before. I am saying it again now, as I am entitle to freedom of expression

-- Frutty.

fruitnut it may surprise you to know that I do have a soft spot for you, you are funny, witty, and quite intellegent, but you do need to lose the conspiracy theory about the forum., I have been open and honest with Iceman and all other members with regards to the forum aims and to its commitment towards disclosure.

If you look back into the archives you will see that the forum was reopened early last year in response to the guest book viewer's wanting Mr skipper to start up a forum, (the last time my forum was open (2005) it was hacked and trashed along with my old computer and 30 years of research of ET), Mr skipper agreed it would be a good idea and gave his blessing for it to go ahead, Chandre Papa sal an Humanoid and OSD helped set up the forum and supplied some new ground breaking evidence, Harry 12bar contributed to our understanding of the way we look at evidence and the geology around the site, Mars Rocks, Q, and other members have shown us how to access detail from imagery, plus Mr skipper has full access to the office and often shares his insights to the way the forum is going.

But even O'Brien has given us insights into how the equipment on the space crafts are constructed, the different functions, and most of all how the images are produced, this is all important when looking at the evidence and evaluating what is and what is not anomalous.

Every member has the right to freedom of expression at the forum so long as it does not cause offence or targets individuals, it is a privilege which visitors expect to be used correctly by all members, no one here has the right to openly attack a member(s) even it they think they have cause to do so, freedom of expression has to take into account other peoples views or beliefs, it is what makes a community like this work and the basis for they way it evolves.

This forum is a platform for both serious researchers of anomalies, and as a gateway for new viewers to the site (including a new younger audience), it is a place where "Any one" can join in the discussions taking place no matter what their background without fear of ridicule, our underlying aim is to discover and promote the evidence in the fight for disclosure, the forum is secure and moderated in order to have a safe environment, but there are countless other sites with similar topics that are more heavily moderated and less patient than we are, we encourage free speech and expression providing it is on topic but we cannot allow personal grievance to take precedent over the evidence being discussed.

We have always been open with our aims or motives, we have no hidden agendas and we show respect and support all our members, even when they have made allagations against team members and individuals, I have used reason and objectivity in dealing with any complaints and always upheld legitimate claims, and to be honest it is getting very tiresome having to defend myself and forum related matters when there is no reason to, and I can only conclude that certain individuals have no other motive being here other than destroy the credibility of this site.

Xenon

fruitnut1 · Dedicated to the truth

Chandre you know I was banned for no reason, when I decided to quit posting, and wrote my resignation in a very dispassionate and civil manner.

You must acknowledge further I did not ask for my account to be reactivated, but it was you and your evaluation of the wrong doing of others that led you to gently reactivate it.

Also remember all pictures from the moon and mars are being obfuscated (photoshoped) to give the impression that Mars is a barren planet and the Moon is not full of titanic constructions, sculptures and scary skulls all around.

The only weapon we have against the manipulation of these images is image enhancing, which for example goggog has been able to carry to a level where there cannot be any more doubts about the purpose of the images being manipulated in such a fantastic way to the point of displaying a complete different view of what’s really underneath.

Forbidding image enhancing and smearing on people who have invested time in cracking up the cheaters’ codes is something I would not expect from fellows pushing in the same direction but from pre paid debunkers and disinfo agents.

I am not very articulate, I must acknowledge that, but I hope I am making my point across. There is something eerie going on. It might also be that you people are being pressured by TPTB, as we lately might have been stepping very close to their well kept secret holy grail.

Cheers, dear Chandre!

-- Frutty

Chandre · Dedicated to the truth

Freedom of speech and thought is welcome and even encouraged on this Forum.

The key is to keep it on the level, no personal swipes at each other can be allowed or tolerated. Discuss the evidence and its merits, just not each other.

I know it can be hard as we are only human and we can easily digress into some mud-slinging at people that may irritate us, but we cannot allow it and its against the Forum rules.

If you disagree with what they post, say why in as un-emotional and scientific way as you can, please. aww

Show tolerance and respect for others in the same way as you would like them to show you tolerance and respect.

Some members are far more articulate than others and may be able to make posts offensive even while not breaking any actual rule or web-ettiquette guidelines. They are also being watched.

The mods are only human, many of us are busy with other projects at the moment so small things may slip by or take time to be reacted to. Please PM one of us (or all of us if you want) if you are unhappy with something and it will be addressed.

Remember, debunkers and critics and skeptics all have a place in our work. They challenge us to up our game. Imagine if one day there are none left because we are presenting our anomalies and arguments in a way that cannot be debunked...won't that be worth something.

I make this promise to all of you, when we finally get it all together and organise a 'gathering' we will have a good open session about all of this and how to handle the critics....LOL, it will probably be the best attended session of the event.

fruitnut1 · Dedicated to the truth

That’s my point gbull, even if you are allergic to the truth coming out too, that means the forum has ceased its reason to exist.

It should change its name then and its objective too, only to gather debunkers and truth gatekeepers, so they can exchange ideas on how to smear people that strive to uncover the big hoax, about the Moon, Mars and celestial objects in the solar system in general.

-- Frutty

gbull · Veteran Member

wtf! just play by the rules!

lol, frutty.

come on!

and ya, your pics are annoying.

welcome back.

fruitnut1 · Dedicated to the truth

Something’s going wrong inside this forum.

Last time I was banned because I posted a farewell post, after the owner of this forum had warned against any image enhancing whatsoever.

Thanks to Chandre I could recover my account.

This time, I have been warned by a new administrator to refrain from engaging tit for tat with an element that is visiting the forum “alien anomalies” not since long, dissing almost any old member I can think of .

The subject in question has not made a single contribution to the forum, but is plainly against the truth coming out.

There are some administrators that apparently are on his side, to keep any investigation or breakthrough from happening.

Iceman, pointed at it before. I am saying it again now, as I am entitle to freedom of expression

-- Frutty.

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