There's another study I posted which in my opinion has not been discussed at full length. and could point at the cognitive dissonance, we are all exposed to, and which the new forum member, the riddle, points at, which makes intelligent people shy away from facing the inconvenient.
in the most strict sense mathematics, computer science and logic, things are just 1 or 0 (black or white) and when the man do see it clearly that this also applies to the life (reality) can the humanity made the final journey to the truth.
All of those who don't work with me work for NASA Yes this is a popular saying and a very manipulative one too. It is not true to say that those who are not with me are against me, which is what you are implying. Life is not black and white, however much you wish it was. There are always shades of grey, and when does grey become black and when does grey become white?
No-one is challenging your skills or submissions to the forum, they are, like everyone elses submissions and skills, taken at face value and with respect. However, we all must acknowledge that what one person sees in a photograph someone else may not see, so there is an amount of subjective interpretation to each of our images.
The point I was making is that ideally, we want to be taken seriously by our visitors and our submissions or opinions should be backed up wherever possible with other references to give weight to our arguments.
Yes there are lots of cases where the facts presented in the pictures do not add up to what we are continually being told, and we all have to make up our own minds whether we think there is enough circumstantial evidence to take this as one of our beliefs.
We are all working in different areas towards hopefully the same ends but have we considered that we may not like what we find out when it is publicly disclosed?
Iceman wrote: I think The Rovers stories are not true. Many of the images we see from Mars are certainly not taken by someone matchbox cars on another planet
I can “prove” every word bud some of you are not able to face the true jet. I have been testing you, you does not seams to care about the real true just playing a game. If you are not agree it is because you have not worked enough through the available data.
PS. you are not the ruler of this game. The work I do here speaks for my, my work tells you enough about my skills, accuracy and what we can expect to find on the planet Mars. I think one person know a lot about the planet Mars as that person talked about looking through a dirty window it tells me that person know lot of what I know. That is the key looking through the dirty window, you seams always missing the whole context of the project. All of those who don't work with me work for NASA. It's not enough to find something you must understand the meaning of it in a broad scale you also must learn from it and it should help you doing the next research as you should know what to expect and also be open for the unexpected.
Iceman, I think if you are going to make statements like this, maybe you need to give us some kind of evidence based on what is known to be currently possible.
There was a lot of money spent in developing the Rovers and I am sure they have many groundbreaking features which are not normally available. Conversely, there are also many images which are just plain bad and worse than what I could take, so there are some good ones and bad ones too.
Although I recognise this is an opinion, if you want others to take it seriously, it should really be backed up with some references and credible examples, dont you think?
I think The Rovers stories are not true. Many of the images we see from Mars are certainly not taken by someone matchbox cars on another planet, they are taken by photographers open your eyes, too many images are taken under difficult conditions that automatic devices may not operate.