Alien Anomalies

ICEMAN · Senior Member

RE: more disturbances and another rover?

OBrien · Member

Where did this image come from?

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It's an incredibly amateurish fake if it is attempting to represent reality. The footprint has been duplicated multiple times. Every feature, shadow, and defect is reproduced identically within each footprint, except that the two right footprints have been mirror-flipped. No attempt has been made to disguise or alter features to prevent this from being instantantly recognized as a fabrication. The shadows aren't even remotely consistent between the "right" and "left" footprints. 1 out of 10 for effort.

fruitnut1 · Dedicated to the truth

No sweat! here is a quick link to an exif viewer ....

http://www.softsea.com/review/Image-Properties-Exif-Viewer.html

And my photoshop does not display exif ... maybe the latest version does

-- Frutty

qmantoo · Teaching the truth

We always need links to the originals so that we can look for ourselves.

I will see if I can rustle up a program to show meta data as not everyone has Photoshop or other software that show this kind of thing. All the lg_xxxx mars express photographs have it I believe.

fruitnut1 · Dedicated to the truth

Ok. We have found that the Mars spirit rover and other rovers and probes Mars bound photographs, show overlayed machines and personally I have not been able to find an adequate explanation for this fact.

After looking in the internet for a real spirit photograph I found the one I posted previously (scroll down to see it).

After seeing the expression of the two ladies standing next to the rover, their positions relative to the ground, and zooming in I started becoming suspicious of the photographs as the sand showed strange texture and furthermore the lower edges of the rover where not solid and mingled with the sand ….

What I did is I inspected its exif info. And found a most strange display that leads me to believe in fact it is a montage. Maybe an expert in exif metadata can give us a second opinion. Watcher?. In my opinion this picture is fake.

Anybody can bring a spirit picture (not paintings by concept artists) that is not blurred and is not photoshopped? Was a rover by the nick spirit ever sent to Mars?

On the left a the exif info from a picture I took with my NIKON camera, on the right the rover picture I found, with dates after the rover was long gone and the camera make in the wrong field, not to mention the adobe Photoshop elements having been used in the production process.

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-- Frutty

fruitnut1 · Dedicated to the truth

This is one of the last photographs of spirit rover. Even without showing the details you can see some "landforms" that look menacing there (like a snake and a monster (though the real picture is full of them)

fruitnut1 · Dedicated to the truth

I found a pic of the spirit rover (supposed to be the same as opportunity). I could have sworn it was smaller, but with images nowadays you never know ... here it is

-- Frutty

fruitnut1 · Dedicated to the truth

qmantoo wrote:

I dont understand how you can get contours from a black and white photograph unless you join up the pixels of siimilar grey shade?

Let me know which graphics editing software you are using.

If it's photoshop I will explain it to you step by step it's straightforward; otherwise I will try to find the corresponding method that suits your software.

-- Frutty

qmantoo · Teaching the truth

NASA will probably say that the Public Relations men wanted the image of one footprint - otherwise it could be any old set of moon footprints. They wanted to show "the first footprint on the moon" you know "one small step for man....."

In this case they would deem it acceptable for the image to be manipulated for an artistic media photo to be shown to the world I guess.

qmantoo · Teaching the truth

I dont understand how you can get contours from a black and white photograph unless you join up the pixels of siimilar grey shade?

fruitnut1 · Dedicated to the truth

Hmmm, that boot stepped onto solid rock ! yawn

ICEMAN · Senior Member

Why were the other steps erased , It's obvious signs of it.

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fruitnut1 · Dedicated to the truth

That's it software that's no tire. That's a simulation of a tire over a striped structure behind.

-- Frutty

fruitnut1 · Dedicated to the truth

Software_Pyrate wrote:

Could you elaborate more on the "naked cyborg" part.....

I don't see it

While I usually do not agree with most of the observations....I think there is something to these tracks.

This image reminds me of being a kid and covering up my tracks when playing hide n seek...You know....when you take a stick and try to erase your tracks...like in the snow...

Software, it's just my point of view. I think the rover, the tracks and the sky are fake. So you are right we have to begin seeking for anomalies not on the landscape but on the rover (this is the last straw).

The part of the cyborg is more elaborated. I believe the images suffer a filter that makes them look like sands and rocks (like applying a texture) when in fact SOME of the features in SOME the takes are rather metallic => cyborgs ... lol I know it's far fetched but That's my current standing on the issue.

-- Frutty

Software_Pyrate · Veteran Member

I know I'm probly just seeing things...but why do these tires look so different from each other....

I obviously see that the left tire is turned...but none the less

Software_Pyrate · Veteran Member

Could you elaborate more on the "naked cyborg" part.....

I don't see it

While I usually do not agree with most of the observations....I think there is something to these tracks.

This image reminds me of being a kid and covering up my tracks when playing hide n seek...You know....when you take a stick and try to erase your tracks...like in the snow...

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fruitnut1 · Dedicated to the truth

And this is how the original should look like. Ah ! everything makes sense now wink

fruitnut1 · Dedicated to the truth

Now if everybody understood the idea. and agrees that what wee se here is a prefabricated image, produced by an algorithm whose parameters point to give an impression of a desert full of rocks, and you realized with the countour analysis that in fact the rover is a sham you are seen your first naked martian cyborg in this outtake from the main photograph on the right bottom corner.

-- Frutty

fruitnut1 · Dedicated to the truth

qmantoo wrote:

Yes, I agree that there appears to be added confusion here, but what of the items like the pipes, metallic square thing and the thing 'leaning' against the rock? Are they real or manafactured or what?

The trith about Mars is beyond our wildest dreams. So bear with me lol.

I still don't understand why EVERY rover or probe you name is overlayed in their attributable photos because a camera on Mars should have taken them right?.

That's a fact I have been able to convince myself going through several photos. OK. SO I DON'T KNOW WHY THEY ARE OVERLAYED BUT THEY ARE.

Now. What I am going to show you is a contour analysis of the image. A script (or action) runs trough the image filtering contours in it. ok.

Now if you look carefullly, you will notice the sky is fake, the rover is fake (because you can see the landscape through) and the tracks are fake. Why? Beats me, but it's so.

ORIGINAL

IMAGE CONTOURS

qmantoo · Teaching the truth

Yes, I agree that there appears to be added confusion here, but what of the items like the pipes, metallic square thing and the thing 'leaning' against the rock? Are they real or manafactured or what?

ICEMAN · Senior Member

Fruitnut1 wrote:gmatoon. I know exactly which region is that. It's called calypso in front of what they call Troy. Most of the rovers tracks are fake. They take advantage of terrain accidents (in fact structures) and boldly draw rover's tracks . Those tracks are definitely fake. The scene is definitely fake, I mean there are real parts and the information to see what's behind is in there, but they play with your perception, as you have had the opportunity to explain yourself. It simply does not make sense. I know this scene from different photographs.

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This I totally agree Frutty I've been trying to convince people about this, at last here is someone who is sufficiently clear on the photographing and perspective works to confirm this. Thank you Frutty.

You are in many cases formulating theories that conform the conclusions I have reached.

fruitnut1 · Dedicated to the truth

gmatoon. I know exactly which region is that. It's called calypso in front of what they call Troy. Most of the rovers tracks are fake. They take advantage of terrain accidents (in fact structures) and boldly draw rover's tracks . Those tracks are definitely fake. The scene is definitely fake, I mean there are real parts and the information to see what's behind is in there, but they play with your perception, as you have ghad the oppportunity to explain yourselve. It simply does not make sense. I know this scene from different photographs. The rover is in front of the city of Troy.

Why do I call it city. Because I have seen it's a city. Ancient looking like the ones we are already used to see.

The most astosnishing thing is that the rover, seen from HRISE, pointing to were officially it was stuck in the mud (a pious lie) shows a dim light, inside walls (just as I tell you), and the Troy city right in front. to the side of the walls is a cliff no little rover could have climbed in 200 years.

-- Frutty

qmantoo · Teaching the truth

Whilst investigating ARP2's lifeforms, I came across this and got distracted.

What do you think happened here?

I cannot really make this out.

working from left to right:
Purple circle - shows something snake-like 'leaning' up against the rock. (Of course, it could just be two rocks too.)

Green circle - I cannot make sense of this area, the rover tracks do not appear to warrant such a disturbance and I wonder if it is actually something else there. I think I see bits and pieces in there but as always, not sure.

In the green circle about 2 o'clock there are tracks from a 'rover' but I am wondering if it is from another rover belonging to someone else. Of course this is wild speculation, but our rover tyre tracks are not normally so obvious and defined because of their treads being needed to keep them out of soft sand. They are more like large balloons than tyres. These look like caterpillar treads on one of those robots they send in to dispose bombs?

Red circle - appears to be a metallic square thing like a generator or something similar. Certainly metallic shiny and square.

Blue square - I really do not think these are ridges left by the rover tyres. They look like pipes to me and the upper one appears to have a thickened section about halfway along.