I've also worked that image and this is the best I can do
The 1 is almost identical to the 'hinge' I found and it would almost run in a line with my hinges which are in the same area.
The 2 is also very similar to the 'machine' that I found. Notice how it casts a shadow.
This is the 'machine' I found
I am convinced that these are single shot frames that NASA has cut into sections to apply tampering on and then reconstituted as one frame. A Hasselbad should have been able to take this as one shot. Note how the mosaic lines intersect around the anomaly areas, this allows them to change colours, focus and alignment so you cannot see the forms clearly. NASaTY !
The truth protective layer tells me it can' be a hand on the lens, as I have overcome such things as NASA true contortions I can use my mind freely and my propose is to believe my eyes rather than fellow some sensibility club rules. As I see human bare hand on the lens I believe it is so especially because hand is so unique in shape and there fore not easily taken for something else.
Chandre I believe this is one of the biggest find so fare, good luck.
I don't have to vindicate this conclusion. NASA have lot of questions to answer bud they always behave like seriously guilty defendant.
I believe this is not a rock, its a relic. If I ever get to the moon I am taking an excavation brush that has a little bulb to blow away dust and soft bristles to clear them away. I believe the relic is made from something like glass and is currently covered with a thick layer of dust so that only parts of it are visible.
The next two images show a close-up of the round area. It may be a door as there seems to be a hinge and possibly a handle. The orange outlines the 'hinge' (note its raised from the rock in the left corner), the blue the circular shape and the green the handle. The mismatched mosaic makes it very hard to see more detail.
I'm very far out on a limb here, but as always these are my personal opinions.
-- Edited by Chandre on Tuesday 16th of February 2010 02:46:13 PM
Xenon, I have some suspicians regarding the mosaic images that I will raise in my next post.
I suspect that NASA tampered with image because of the rock in the image. There appears to be something round, very ornate and decorative at just past 12 o'clock. It is centred on the rock face and seems to be coloured. I am working on trying to get a detail I can post, but it is as though you are looking at it through a wet window. If I 'step back' and look at it I can see lots of interesting symmetry and forms that almost make sense. BUT... I can't get anything solid enough to post just yet....
The only definte detail I can get is what is on the lens, and there is something on the rock behind the lens...but I don't like where my thoughts go when I look at it...lets just say 'Ghost in the Machine' ....
Chandre, I have no idea what is on the camera lens, but one thing that has surprised me is that the image is a mosaic (which is slightly out of alignment), you can see more detail if you turn the contrast down (even more by inverting the colours using paint), why have NASA edited this image?
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Cheers thewatcher ! I'll join you in one of whatever you're having
You raise a good point about image quality differing one the same shots. We've raised that before with Apollo pictures in my Apollo 12 thread where the supposed better quality larger file was worse quality than the standard resolution image. Makes it very misleading and I will be posting something on that in the next few days.
In the meantime I have highlighted the anomaly on the lens
Take a close look everyone and lets see if we can figure out what that is ? I'df rather not have another restless night
I guess this is a valuable lesson to me.. After a Lot of beers I really wasnt in a good frame of mind and Accept my mistake. BUT.. The source image is what i went by. That particular link leads to a badly degraded image . A better more detailed version is here: http://history.nasa.gov/alsj/a16/AS16-106-17340HR.jpg So the interesting point is 2 official links with varying detail. I shouldve noticed the image ID as being incorrect in ref to mission Mag order. (Alien hand... TW slaps head) what was I thinking / drinkin. Im off to solve my thumping hangover.
Better detail of my Iglo (Rover in front of rock) and shovel below from better hi res image.
If I remember correctly the cameras are fixed to the suit, which means for certain shots the astronaut has to turn the body directing onto the motive.
Ps: Just thought after the announcement of discovery of waterice on the surface, some spacestation Igloos erected in shady regions would be a logical step.
I know I have a thing for suits at the moment, but in this case I must agree with Xenon. The angle of the shot makes it hards to see the fingers as they are a really short part of the glove but they are there as is evidenced in later shots on the same day.
Although, while checking for fingers I did come across something else.
One hand is holding the hammer, the other hand is holding the spade. So whats holding the camera lense ?
Image AS17-10075857
Besides this question... there is tampering on the rock hiding some interesting looking glyphs and what looks like an astrological-type large disc complete with colour.
Hi, Just a little bombshell (Chandre u should like this) This astronaut happens not to have human hands!! Theyre not there. Or theyre not human..
The background rock is nothing but a rock with the LRV in front of it, and the "Astronaut" really is human "with human hands" (albeit a little dusty), and the scoop contains a mixture of dark subsurface soil and top surface lighter soil.
So all in all it is just another historic moment from the NASA archive, no Aliens, artefacts or wet soils, although a while back one person did try to convince the world at his website that the rock was an Igloo.
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Its interesting how this image seems to want top reveal more. Look at the structure / Creature in the background. This really seems artificial and pretty clear!
Nice post about shovel. Theres are more perplexing problem with the astronaut. We are trying to find a clear way to explain a stranger problem that really dosent make sense.
I'm thinking of posting some Moon pictures under the name Strange On Moon. In this case shoving Astronaut John W. Young, commander of the Apollo 16 lunar landing mission,is photographed collecting lunar samples near North Ray crater during thethird Apollo 16 extravehicular activity (EVA-3) at the Descartes landing site.
The strange things to me is how the shovel seams to have sink down to the Moons ground without leaving any mark on the ground also the contents of the shovel looks like mud, not as completely dray soil.