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RE: Life on Mars Theory Boosted by New Methane Study

Sanmyaku · Member

Good job One Single Drop.Thats a lot of info.Im a nerd smile

but thats too much for me. I've read many of the new research data on methane Im already overloaded confuse

. I believe they got a lot proof that Mars Methane is not from geology or frozen methane released during the summer. Also,It seems there dotting there 'i's and cross there 't's before they admit to life in Mars. Its intresting how many scientiest are doing research on this subject . I wont be surprise if NASA says There is life on mars soon. Bacterial(single cell) of course not big multi-organism.
While doing some research it seems that Nasa/JPL has known about Life in mars since the 1970's. Seems they cant hide the evedence anymore. The world is a differrent place now since the 1970's. Many countries like India, China, Japan, and soon other nations will want too join in the space age.They are becoming aware of MARS, MOON, and etc. Is There Ruins, & Ancient Technology on the MOON/MARS? IF so, they will all want a piece of the pie. How will it all playout? Will other nations spill the beans? It seems it's getting harder to Close the lid.

Here is a article with a renown scientiest Chandra Wickramasinghe speaking out.

"A leading international space scientist says there is now clear evidence of life on Mars but that American authorities are hesitating from announcing it for political reasons.

"The discovery of liquid water on Mars combined with earlier discoveries of organic substances in a meteoritethat came from Mars, and also of methane in the Martian atmosphere all point to the existence of life -- contemporary life -- on the Red Planet," said Chandra Wickramasinghe, a globally renowned astrobiologist."

A link to article: http://www.ndtv.com/convergence/ndtv/story.aspx?id=NEWEN20080060938

This is another Web site I recommend And to add it to your favorite it pertains to life being seeded. "Panspermia — the theory that microbes transmit life to habitable bodies in space; or the process of such transmission"
LINK: http://www.panspermia.org/index.htm

Xenon · Administrator

One single drop wrote:

This morning ESA / ESRIN has kindly send a document of 73 pages, called "Abstract book and programm". Short resumées of scientific papers or speeches are called abstracts. The book contains the abstracts of the Mars Methane Conference. It is a 6.0 MB pdf document. Anybody interested, I can send a copy.
OSD

I will have a copy please..... xenon.ptp@googlemail.com

One single drop · Senior Member

This morning ESA / ESRIN has kindly send a document of 73 pages, called "Abstract book and programm". Short resumées of scientific papers or speeches are called abstracts. The book contains the abstracts of the Mars Methane Conference. It is a 6.0 MB pdf document. Anybody interested, I can send a copy.
OSD

One single drop · Senior Member

An insight in what`s going on:

Workshop on Methane on Mars:Current Observations, Interpretation and Future Plans

When and Where

This joint ESA-ASI workshop will be held on 25 - 27 November 2009, at ESA/ESRIN in Frascati, Italy.
Purpose

Methane has been detected in the Martian atmosphere by ground-based telescopes and from orbit. This discovery indicates that the planet is either biologically or geologically active. The goal of the workshop is to review the available measurements, the potential reservoirs and release mechanisms of Methane and its circulation in the atmosphere, and to discuss all possible origins of this constituent.

We anticipate discussions on the following topics:

• Space observations of methane
• Ground-based observations of methane
• Martian atmosphere, surface and subsurface data relevant to the study of methane
• Origin, source, and loss of methane
• Atmospheric circulation and chemistry
• Mechanisms for storage and release
• Microbial life and metabolism in water ice
• Biological experiments under Martian conditions
• Future measurements of methane, its dissociation products, and related trace gases.

Workshop on Methane on Mars: Current Observations, Interpretation and Future Plans
Proceedings During and after the conference the presentations will be posted on the web. In case of sensitive material it will be possible to provide an edited version of the presentation for web publication. We are considering whether to dedicate an issue of an international and peer-reviewed journal to the proceedings of this conference.

Workshop on Methane on Mars: Current Observations, Interpretation and Future Plans
Committees Scientific Organizing CommitteeThe international Scientific Organising Committee is composed of: Nicolas Altobelli (ESA/ESAC, Madrid)Sushil Atreya (The University of Michigan)Vincent Chevrier (University of Arkansas)Agustin Chicarro (ESA/ESTEC, Noordwijk)Therese Encrenaz (Observatoire de Paris-Meudon)Enrico Flamini (ASI, Roma)Vittorio Formisano (IFSI- INAF, Frascati)Franck Lefevre (LATMOS, Paris)Paul Mahaffy (NASA Goddard Space Flight Center)Michael Mumma (NASA Goddard Space Flight Center)Buford Price (University of California, Berkeley)Olivier Witasse (ESA/ESTEC, Noordwijk)Richard W. Zurek (NASA Jet Propulsion Laboratory) Local Organizing Committee Clare Bingham (ESA/ESTEC, Noordwijk)Carmen Comparetto (ESA/ESRIN, Italy)Adele Graziani (ASI)Carlo Del Vecchio (ASI)Olivier Witasse (ESA/ESTEC, Noordwijk)

ProgrammeWednesday 25 November 2009

9:00-10:00: Registration, posters set up, coffee

09:45 – 10:00 Welcome and opening (ESA, ASI)

Session 1 - Observations of methane from orbit

Moderator: O. Witasse

10:00-10:35 Methane observations with PFS-MEX: an introductory historical

overview, multiline observations and limb measurements (solicited)

Formisano, V.

10:35-10:50 PFS-MEX: Mapping methane in Martian atmosphere

Geminale, A

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10:50-11:05 Spatial distribution and temporal evolution of methane in the Martian

atmosphere

Fonti, S

.Session 2: Ground-based observations of methane

Moderator: O. Witasse

11:05-11:25 Absolute measurements of Methane on Mars (solicited)

Mumma, M.

11:25-11:45 Methane and water on Mars: Maps of active regions and their seasonal

variability (solicited)

Villanueva, G.

11:45-12:15 Coffee break

12:15-12:35 Measurement of the isotopic signatures of water on Mars: implications

for studying methane (solicited)

Novak, P.

12:35-12:40 Poster presentation (3 minutes): High Spectral resolution heterodyne

spectroscopy of methane at 7.8 μmSonnabend, G.Session 3: Martian surface and subsurface data, and laboratory

measurements relevant to the study of methane

Moderator: P. Mahaffy

12:40-12:55 Mapping ice deposits on Mars through subsurface radar sounding

(solicited)

Orosei, R.

12:55-13:15 Morphology and Mineralogy of Methane Source Regions (solicited)

Wray, J.

13:15-13:30 The search for methane gas emission features in Nili Fossae, Syrtis

Major, and Isidis Planitia, Mars

Komatsu, G.

13:40 Lunch

14:50-15:15 Surface conditions from thermodynamics of phyllosilicates and

implications for the presence of methane on early Mars (solicited)

Chevrier, V.

15:15-15:35 Laboratory investigation of the role of heterogeneous processes in

Martian methane variability (solicited)

Gough, R.

15:35-16:25 Discussion on the data sets available (from orbit, ground-based

measurements, laboratory measurements, other data sets of interest)

16:25-16:55 Coffee break

Session 4: Origin of Martian methane

Moderator: S. Atreya

16:55-17:20 Methane and the Martian Habitability (solicited)

Atreya, S.

17:20-17:40 Production on Mars by photolysis of H

2O in the presence of CO(solicited)Bar-Nun, A.

17:40-18:00 Methanogenesis in Terrestrial Permafrost: a Model for Methane

Sources on Mars? (solicited)

Wagner, D.

18:00-18:20 Methane Sources and Sinks: The geobiology of the Arctic versus Mars

(solicited)

Onstott, T.

18:20-18:25 Poster presentation (3 minutes): Abiotic methanogenesis carbonate

reduction by hydrogen-bearing fluids: a mechanism for Martian methane

Lazar, C

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18:30-19:30 Welcome reception

Thursday 26 November 2009

Session 5: Storage, release, and delivery of methane

Moderator: V. Chevrier

09:00-9:15 Methane reservoirs on Mars: A story of migration, gas hydrates, traps,

and a long production cycle

Ori, G.

09:15-09:35 Methane Emissions from Earth's Degassing: a Reference for Mars

(solicited)

Etiope, G.

09:35-09:50 Methane hydrates: A source for slow methane release on Mars?

(solicited)

Elwood-Madden, M.

09:55-10:15 Metastable Methane Clathrate Particles as a Source of Methane to the

Martian Atmosphere (solicited)

Chassefiere, E.

10:15-10:25 Poster presentations (3 minutes each)

The trapping of methane in Martian clathrates hydrates

Thomas, C.

Variability of Atmospheric Methane Induced by Adsorption in the Regolith

Meslin, P.-Y.

10:25-11:00 Discussion on origin, storage, release, and delivery of methane

11:00-11:30 Coffee break

Session 6: Atmospheric circulation and chemistry

Moderator: F. Forget and F. Lefèvre

11:30-11:50 Challenges raised by the observed variations of methane on Mars

(solicited)

Lefèvre, F.

11:50-12:05 A short-Lived Trace Gas in the Martian Atmosphere: A General

Circulation Model of the Likelihood of Methane

Chizek, M. R.

12:05-12:20 Argon: The Mixing Standard for Methane in Mars Atmosphere

Sprague, A. L.

12:20-12:35 The spatial and temporal variation of oxidant component in the

Martian atmosphere observed by MEX/PFS

Aoki, S.

12:35-12:50 Unusual CO behaviour in Martian atmosphere: a relation to methane?

Formisano, V.

12:50-13:05 Photochemically induced formation of Mars-relevant oxygenates and

methane from carbon dioxide and water

Wecks, M.

13:05-13:25 Poster presentations (3 minutes each)

The photochemistry and atmospheric lifetime of methane on Mars for evolving

atmospheric concentrations of carbon dioxide and the variability of the Mars

planetary boundary layer (PBL) based on measurements from the Viking 1 and 2

landers, Mars Pathfinder and Phoenix.

Levine, J.

Mars atmospheric circulation and chemistry detected in the submm domain

Hartogh, P.

Search for important minor gases in Martian atmosphere

Geminale, A.

Search for hydrogen peroxide in the Martian atmosphere

Formisano, V.

Search of SO2 in the Martian atmosphere by ground-based submillimeter observation

Nakagawa, H.

The Formaldehyde Observation of 1969 and 1989: Analyses of the Observations and

Proposals for Interpretation

Muller, C.

13:25-13:50 Discussion on the atmosphere circulation and chemistry

13:50 LunchSession 7: Microbial life, metabolism in water ice, and biological

experiments under Martian conditions

Moderator: B. Price

14:55-15:15 Microbial Life in Ice: Habitats, Metabolism, and Survival on Mars

(solicited)

Price, B.

15:15-15:30 Methanogenesis on Earth Today: Where, Who and How

Prieur, D.

15:30-15:45 The possibility of methane oxidation coupled to microbial perchlorate

respiration

Coates, J.D.

15:45-16:00 A sub-zero high Arctic methane seep: implications for Mars methane

Whyte, L.

16:00-17:30 Coffee break and poster session

List of posters:

1. High Spec

tral resolution heterodyne spectroscopy of methane at 7.8 μm

Sonnabend, G.

2. Abiotic methanogenesis carbonate reduction by hydrogen-bearing fluids: a

mechanism for Martian methane

Lazar, C.

3. The trapping of methane in Martian clathrates hydrates

Thomas, C.

4. Variability of Atmospheric Methane Induced by Adsorption in the Regolith

Meslin, P.-Y.

5. The photochemistry and atmospheric lifetime of methane on Mars for evolving

atmospheric concentrations of carbon dioxide and the variability of the Mars

planetary boundary layer (PBL) based on measurements from the Viking 1 and 2

landers, Mars Pathfinder and Phoenix.

Levine, J.

6. Mars atmospheric circulation and chemistry detected in the submm domain

Hartogh, P.

7. Search for important minor gases in Martian atmosphere

Geminale, A.

8. Search for hydrogen peroxide in the Martian atmosphere

Formisano, V.

9. Search of SO

2 in the Martian atmosphere by ground-based submillimeterobservationNakagawa, H.

10. The Formaldehyde Observation of 1969 and 1989: Analyses of the Observations

and Proposals for Interpretation

Muller, C.

11. Growth and Biomediated Mineral Alterations by Methanogens under

Geochemical Conditions Similar to the Martian Subsurface

Chastain, B. K.

12. Determination of the surface concentrations of methane on Mars with MOMA

Steininger, H.

13. Using Laser Heterodyne Radiometry to Search for Methane on Mars

Passmore,R.L.

14. Robotic rigid vacuum airship for exploration of Mars

Pahari, S.

15. Detecting and characterizing Martian dust using spectropolarimeter SPEX

Stam, D.

16. Possible Influences of Aerosol Loading on the Measured Columns of Martian

Atmospheric Constituents Including Methane

Muller, C.

DINNER

Friday 27 November 2009

09:00-09:20 Methanogens: A Model for Life on Mars (solicited)

Kral, T.

09:20-09:35 Methanogenic Activity in Rio Tinto, a Terrestrial Analogue of Mars

Amils, R.

09:35-09:50 Bacterial survival in Martian conditions

Galletta, G.

09:50-10:05 Zero-Valent Iron on Mars: an Alternate Energy Source for

Methanogens

Chastain, B. K.

10:05-10:15 Poster presentations (3 minutes)

Growth and Biomediated Mineral Alterations by Methanogens under Geochemical

Conditions Similar to the Martian Subsurface

Chastain, B. K.

10:15-11:00 Discussion on microbial life

11:00-11:30 Coffee break

Session 8: Future measurements of methane, related trace gases, and

isotopes

Moderators: A. Chicarro and R. Zurek

11:30-11:50 Future in situ methane and related trace gas and isotope measurements

with the Sample Analysis at Mars (SAM) instrument suite of the 2011 Mars Science

Laboratory (MSL) (solicited)

Mahaffy, P.

11:50-12:10 Measuring Methane and its Isotopic Ratios 13C/12C and D/H With the

Tunable Laser Spectometer (TLS) on the 2011 Mars Science Laboratory (MSL)

Mission (solicited)

Webster, C.

12:10-12:25 Studying methane and other trace species in the Mars atmosphere

using a SOIR instrument

Drummond, R.

12:25-12:45 A New Mission Concept: The Search for Atmospheric Trace Gases in

the Mars Atmospheric (solicited)

Zurek, R.

12:45-13:05 Posters presentations (3 minutes each)

Determination of the surface concentrations of methane on Mars with MOMA

Steininger, H.

Using Laser Heterodyne Radiometry to Search for Methane on Mars

Passmore,R.L.

Robotic rigid vacuum airship for exploration of Mars

Pahari, S.

Detecting and characterizing Martian dust using spectropolarimeter SPEX

Stam, D.

Possible Influences of Aerosol Loading on the Measured Columns of Martian

Atmospheric Constituents Including Methane

Muller, C.

13:05-13:40 Discussion on future measurements

13:40 Lunch

14:50-16:00 General discussion, conclusions, closure of the symposium

S. Atreya, F. Forget, P. Mahaffy, and O. Witasse

http://www.congrex.nl/09c26/

Sanmyaku · Member

I found this Science article intresting, "ScienceDaily (Dec. 8, 2009) — Scientists have ruled out the possibility that methane is delivered to Mars by meteorites, raising fresh hopes that the gas might be generated by life on the red planet, in research published in Earth and Planetary Science Letters." This is a link to the website
http://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2009/12/091208132349.htm

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