heavily tampered with. arrow head begining seems to start from below the horizon..Lodts of compression artifacts but there seems to be structure near the arrow begining.
I continue the presentation of further evidences in a new topic: "Plant-like, animal-like and humanoid-like evidences in Spirit Image Gallery". See you there.
I have return from holiday. There are strange stone-evidences in Spirit's gallery:Â elaborate stones, decorated stones, fragment of sculpture and stones with unnatural form.
For example the first image: an stone(?) with unnatural shape.
In 3D is very well visible that this stone has a sophisticated 3d form, and it is cut by saw or other stone cutter tool. It's impossible created by nature. The direct link to original image: http://marsrovers.jpl.nasa.gov/gallery/all/2/n/107/2N135872092EFF3200P1828L0M1.HTML
The next image shows a decorative stone: perhaps it was located on the top of a column.
Here is a strange shaped thing: is it stone?
It's shape is very difficult, I suspect that is unnatural thing. The direct link: http://marsrovers.jpl.nasa.gov/gallery/all/2/p/075/2P133029031EFF2200P2354L7M1.JPG
We can discover very nice graphic/ relief on some stones.
Voila Pavarotti's light caricature. It shows this feature also at other viewing angle, so it is not the occasional play of the light and shadow. The direct link: http://marsrovers.jpl.nasa.gov/gallery/all/2/p/043/2P130196587EFF0700P2406L7M1.JPG
The next image contains an absolute unnatural form: a square-wave decoration:
See the yellow arrow. The square-wave line has absolute regular form. Unnatural firgure. Original: http://marsrovers.jpl.nasa.gov/gallery/all/2/p/062/2P131872280EFF1300P2441R1M1.JPG
Ther are two strange, very expressive decorations on two stones, on the Home Plate. One is a relief (it shows itself in 3D), and the other resembles to graphic.
The left side arrow points to the relief. The direct link to original image: http://marsrovers.jpl.nasa.gov/gallery/all/2/p/1118/2P225615672EFFASR6P2429R1M1.HTML
I have found numerous fragment of sculpture. The first of them is a head of a woman' statue.
It's nice, isn't it?
On the Columbia Hills there is a nice fragment with very realistic men's head:
It is smiling... An other fallen head-fregment:
The following images shows an other statue-fragment with head: ist made perhaps from metal?
..and finally a beautiful fragment of the foot of a statue:
It's very realistic and well elaborate: just the nail of the toe is visible.
I think there is a lot of contradiction between the images of Sipirt's gallery and the official knowledge about the Mars.
-- Edited by xiriux on Thursday 27th of August 2009 05:57:45 PM
Hi Counter, here is the direct link to the original image of the "shoe": http://marsrovers.jpl.nasa.gov/gallery/all/2/n/121/2N137117854EFF4204P1846L0M1.JPG
The shoe is located on the right side.
Xenon, you have good eyesight.
When I have analyzed the sol363 image, I have recovered a lot of non-stone object in this site, but I was unable to recognize and identify them except the rover. One of the things you have marked resemble in 3d to an electrical junction box (right arrow), but the other marked objects are undefiniable and indescribable (for me). Try to identify them, please. Some additional interesting objects in this image: - a flat thing with equilateral pentagonal shape ( behind or "over" the rover) - a strange object with hexagonal cross-section, on the top of the ridge, left from the center line - an object with tun-dish shaape ( on the top of the heap behind the rover, a bit right from it) - an other small "rover-head" risen from the surface (behind the rover)
-- Edited by xiriux on Tuesday 18th of August 2009 05:37:57 PM
Hi Counter, as I said in an earlier post the sol 584 artifact could be a meteor/craft, and the dark object could be a glitch, I can also agree that the dark object in the Sol 1861 image could be a glitch, as it does not fit into the background, but both images have evidence of tampering (blurring) in and around the same area as each other.
Here is a link to Spirit :: Panoramic Camera :: Sol 1359 image, I do not think it is a space suit, but it sure looks artificial to me..... Sol 1359 image
Here is a link to Spirit :: Panoramic Camera :: Sol 363 image, which I have nicknamed the scrap yard, lots of anomalies (Papa will like this one), I have marked some of them, the box and the symbols are my favourite features as well as the xirux rover, although these are not anaglyph images it will be interesting to see what others think.... Sol 363 image
(Edited to add..... The image has posted smaller than I thought, the "Box" and "Symbols" are the top two arrows)
-- Edited by Xenon on Friday 14th of August 2009 12:36:44 AM
-- Edited by Xenon on Friday 14th of August 2009 12:38:24 AM
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Hello again :) Back to the visible UFO. As to the dust devil, I agree with u all, it does look like one and not like impact type dust cloud.
However I still think, that the trail is being left by the object travelling toward the ground. There is some visible white shape at the end of the trail and it is something light-reflective or burning. It looks like direct source of smoke(?). May it be a missile of some sort?
As to the second picture with black thing on the sky (sol318), it is something very simillar to that from Skipper's report:
It looks very blackish and unnatural. What if these black spots are made by a glitch in tampering software they have? There is more empty pixels on the Skipper's image above, surprisingly (?) they are in the same areas on both pictures, take a look and find them: http://marsrovers.nasa.gov/gallery/all/2/n/1861/2N291579518EFFB0OAP1985L0M1.JPG http://marsrovers.nasa.gov/gallery/all/2/n/1861/2N291579518EFFB0OAP1985R0M1.JPG
On left picture from this report similar black mark is visible at the top (closer to the left)...
Good findings @xirux, shoe look like Nike, I couldn't locate original picture though, could you paste some links please? Cheers
The first one is very surprising: the "Spirit's counterpartner", a rover-like object. See the image:
The left-side blue arrow points toward the front of the vehicle (there is a big stone at its front), the right-side blue arrow points to an erected part of it: this resembles to a "head" with sensors and manipulating arms. The yellow arrow points to its wheel. The smooth flat surface of the vehicle-body and the shadow of the "head" is well observable. The dimensions of this evidence are considerable: its length is about 150 cm, width is about 70 cm and height is about 80 cm. To observe it better I have cropped the object along its contours and I have erased the disturbing background, and I have magnified it by 3. See the next image.
On the left side on its "head" is well visible a manipulator-arm, from the other side the "arm" is missing or broken. The trapezoid "head" is symmetric, and presumably it contains a pair of "eyes". By this blow-up it is observable, that the "wheel" is ribbed or it is a chain-gear. The next evidence is a bit shocking:
At first appearance you see an amorph object. After careful analyzing comes the shock: this evidence is not stone! Yes this is not a stone: my opinion is that this evidence is a scaphander, an astronaut-dress. Look its helmet-part (blue arrow marked): well observable the glittering window of the helmet and its sealing ring. The diameter of the helmet is about 43 cm, it is comfortable for human head. Looak the cuff of the dress: it is intact. The length of its arm is about 50 cm, that's in range of human arm-length. Ther is any mark on the upper-arm: a rectangle crossed askew by a line. This evidence was found on the Home Plate.
The third evidence in this small serie shows a crazy scene..
The green arrow points to a foot-shape object with four (!) fingers. It's strange but the size of this "foot" is about 31 cm, it matches aproximately with the size of human foot. The cyan arrow points to a "leg", ended in cloot. The "leg" is cavernous. Possibly this is a fragment of a chair-leg. The yellow arrow points to hemispherical object that seem to a duct or pipe connection. Its diameter is about 25 cm and it is very similar to the duct evidences shown here earlier. The blue arrow points to a "whatizit", I don't know what is it. It resembles to broken statue, to a trunk. But we can not exclude that it is also a duct connection, because its diameter is also about 25 cm.
The fourth object is a bit "creepy": it is something but you cannot identify it,
Look at the blue marked object. It seems that there is something in a vitrine with dark cover, and this "whatizit" looks out from it. Its dimensions are not too large: about 20cmx25 cmx24cm. I'm sure that its material is not stone. An other view shows it more clearly:
What is your opinion what is this?
-- Edited by xiriux on Monday 10th of August 2009 03:51:48 PM
Hi Counter Xiriux explained to us previously how you can tell the elapsed time on the images, its after the P for Panoramic camera and its measured in seconds (I think started from when it left Earth ?) so the first image with the possible meteor was taken at 178208022 and the second image starts at 178210157 which is a lot later. Hope that helps explain how it works I know its confusing sometimes looking at the images on the site as they appear to be taken in a sequential manner when in fact there are long gaps between them.
counter, I must agree with Xenon in that what we see in images 2,3,4 is nothing more than a dustdevil. If it was a meteor impact we should've seen alot more than just dust ejected from the ground. Also don't forget to always take notice of the images time stamps. I'm not sure that trail in the first image is meteor trail though, given the black object's presence. But then again maybe we are looking at one unique picture of natural(meteor) and intelligent(UFO) activity on Mars!
Counter, I would go with your top picture being a meteor, but the other images below it are nothing more than dust devils, no impact, no playing games on my forum please
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This image looks interesting. If you look closer at the trail you will see, that it is lighter in its bottom part. It looks more like some object flying down toward the ground burning, and leaving trail behind. Something like meteor (or rocket). Look at the other pictures from this sol: http://marsrover.nasa.gov/gallery/all/spirit_p584.html
On the left hand side you can see dust rising from the ground after impact. This picture is later from the top one. Below another, later from those top ones picture:
I would say it's a meteor or small celestial body falling to the ground. it's hard to say what is this black object though. There is no left camera picture for this scene.
That's a lot of anomalies found, great work, keep it up that way! Xirux, as to your question at the bottom (which provoked me to join this forum), I bet it's one of those little Martians (photographed before by spirit), is traveling somewhere. Thanks to all evidence we have we can easilly assume, that Mars is not only empty rocky desert, but there is alien civilization living there now as it was in the past. In Hindu scriptures for example you can find descriptions of lilliputian race called balakhilyas who, according to the scriptures, were living hundred thousands years ago in India. Maybe they moved to Mars I personally think, that it would be quite justified if Mars was habited by some small humanoid forms; that planet's mass is 10 times smaller than earth's, so all living forms should also be smaller respectively
-- Edited by counter on Sunday 9th of August 2009 02:57:30 AM
Sorry I have so simple fantasy, I'm a not too young engineer. I try to recognize and call evidences as quotidian things, but the reality can be more exciting. I may not exclude that you are right.
nice stuff i will try too to have some 3d glasses whatever i think what u call "shoe" could be a piece of a mechanical device what u call "hats" resemble to me some sort of metal gear pieces ( for the shoulder..like the space marines of warhammer 40k...)
Xiriux, they are very stunning images, I am waiting for some hand held 3D glasses to arrive so I can see the detail more clearly, your images are creating quite an interest from visitors to the site...Please keep them coming.
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The first image shows a good shoe (I think for right foot) near the Lahontan crater. Its size is about 35 cm, it is in range with the human foot-size.
The next image is from the Columbia Hills:
A raunchy ankle boot was captured on the top of Columbia Hills. At 3x magnification and at highlighting also the bootlace is visible.
And the third is the mst beautiful:
The left blue arrow points to a decored nice slipper. It is found on the slope of the Home Plate.
Here is a suprising evidence:
A glove (I hope without hand...) for right hand. It was captured between the Columbia Hills and the Home Plate. Behind it a strange object is observable: it resembles to non-stone material. I don't know what is it, I could not recognize it.
It is strange or funny that someones leave os lose some important things, such as caps.
Here is a lost small hat for child (or for baby) among the heaps of Columbia Hills. Its diameter is about 15-20 cm.
This summer-hat is not lone: an other small hat was captured on the Home Plate, some kilometers of here.
The right side blue arrow points to the small hat for baby (with diameter about 15 cm), the other blue arrow points to a baseball cap (with similar size). For open-eyed persons: the yellow arrow points to a small skull-like object.
Let's continue with other simple things as evidences.
First we can found a simple tube near the Bonneville crater.
This object, marked with blue arrow is a tube. It seems that it is brand new, because it is very clean and bright. A grid is visible on its left side. Its diameter is about 12 cm. Its function is perhaps any ventilation?
Similar evidences are found on the Home Plate.
This other tube or duct is located on Home Plate. It resembles to a sewage-water pipe connection. Its diameter is about 30 cm.
The blue arrow pointed object resembles also a tube curved in 90 degrees. Its diameter is about 15 cm, and it may be also a ventilation tube.
On the Columbia Hills also are found tube-evidences.
The blue marked object is obviously a tube with smaller diameter, and its rim is clearly visible.
On the next image you can see a cluster of pipes on the sidehill. The lower arrow points to a tube bent in 90 degrees and the upper blue arrow points to tubes in vertical position.
Xenon, I have posted my images exactly in this way suggested you. They appeared after posting inserted in the text, but later they disappeared: first partially, then totally, after my help-post they all appeared then partially disappeared. It is a bit chaotic but I will write a new post with inserted images and then the behavior of the system will be shown.
I am stumped as to what is happening to the missing images, as this was happening before I did forum housekeeping or allowed the edit post feature (lol....I don't think NASA and the CIA have stolen them), I think the problem is from your own hosting site, as the forum is still accepting images, and my administration panel shows no problems or deletions.
You can post all your images direct from your computer using the attach image feature, browse, then click on insert.
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Hi Xiriux, these look fascinating. I am going to try to find a pair of 3D glasses so I can have a look at the images. If you read the article that Xenon referred us to about the creation of the craters within a one hour period you can understand the devastation we are looking at. Fragments of a civilisation ! A hinge here, some broken statues, plates, coins.... all fragments, covered by 5000 (approximate) years of dust. Frustrating at times and very sad, but I would give anything to be out there with a sift and a brush clearing away the debris !! I am sure all of you agree with me on that point
I continue disclosing further evidences. They are very simple things but this circumstance means a great sureness. Some images among the following photos are red/cyan anaglyph, so you must use red/cyan glasses to look them.
The first evidence has a very simple shape: it is bright, translucent hemisphere, like a glass-shade (blue arrow marked). It was found on the slope of Columbia hills, and its diameter is about 40-50 cm. It seems that it is a translucent cover (roof) of a bright ring or duct.
The second evidence is also very simple: a hinge (blue arrow marked). I don't believe that the nature created this thing, and it is incredible that it would has fallen out of a satellite. It is visible near the Bonneville crater. Voila:
The third is an obviously unnatural thing: an axle with thread (blue marked). Its diameter is about 6 cm. Spirit has found it on the Columbia Hills.
It seems that the communication is also important in that site where Spirit has taken its images (on the Mars?). On the next images we can see an antenna with hexagonal reflector dish. If you observe it careful, you can see a cable from the central part (antenna-head?) toward the surface. It is not too small, it diameter is 80-90 cm! The axis of the antenna-dish looks towards the sky: satellite communication?
The next evidence is also easy recognizable: a container. Is it a fuel-tank?
The next evidence obviously is not stone (blue marked). Look its surface texture, its environment, and you see immediately that it is a machinery. Its height is about 35 cm, its diameter is about 80 cm, and on its left side there is a small slanting plate to the surface. Peoples with reach phantasy would say: UFO! Although its size allow this opportunity for lilliputians...
There is a strange evidence, more exactly two evidences on Columbia Hills: see next image. The blue arrow points to an object that resembles as a rack-bar. The yellow arrow points to a strange object. It is a protecting cloth or a puffed-up puppet! Observe its shadow: the cloth/puppet is partially above the surface.
And the best wonderful thing of this small collection: a wash-basin. Its size is 70cmx 80 cm, it has a nice shape. (sorry, it is not insertable...)
The last image attached shows an old-fashioned lantern (blue marked).
I don't believe that it would be snow (under the dust oe sand as upper layer) but I don't know what is it. Gypsum? Pure silicon-dioxid? Mouldered limestone?
But you have very good eyes! Yes, near the track lies something that is not soil. It is very similar to a piece of pipe. It's pity that this "watizit" is visible on right camera images only. In this case we can not observe it in 3D.
Hi Xiriux, I took your suggestion and looked at the other images and the soil around the wheel tracks is VERY reflective. Could it be snow ? It's not so much the soil that is intriguing me, its the objects within the area that appear 3D and look symmetrical.
Analyze the right camera images, Chandre. You can see that this very light object is not an object but a very light (and may be reflective) soil. It is in the track of the Spirit's wheel, and when Spirit curved its wheel rooted out the soil under the upper layer. It seems that is very light and reflective.
Well done Chandre! The small spot you highlight in the image from sol 318 looks like another airborne object, only farther away from the camera. Also the object you have found in sol 454 is very light reflective (metallic, mechanical?) making it stand out from the surrounding rocks so it does look anomalous!
That is fascinating. With the angle of the sun it seems like it is refracting off somehing transparant suspended in the sky. If this was in colour I am sure we would see something like a prism. As I said before I am not too good at the images and what may cause anomalies so I hope someone else will comment.
I did find something else by accident. I was working on the anomaly and noticed something else that was highly reflective near the rover. I have worked it and include both images. Any ideas what that is ?
Hi Xiriux, I call Sol 454 your 1rst, Sol 584 your 2nd and Sol 318 your 3rd. It is Sol 454 that I could not find ? Thank you for explaining how the time works to me , I will have a look again at the series. I understand what you are saying about the choice of the images that are shown so determining the actual time elapsed may be impossible. I really like the image in Sol 318 ! Did you find the second shadow I pointed out (my arrow is not very clear?) I am sorry I somehow posted the other two smaller ones by mistake ! They are not a series just copies of the original one.
which image call you as "first"? The image identifier is inscripted on the bottom line of the image, for example: 2P166670541EFFA9BGP2408L7M1, and also the martian day number such as SOL454. Based on these datas you can find easy the original image in the Spirit image gallery which is organized by SOL. But if you write which image is interested I can send the direct link too.
The time stamp: in the image identifier after the characters "2P" in case of pancam and "2N" in case of navcam the consequent 9 figure-number is the time stamp, based on seconds. It was started at the launch of Spirit's mission, here on the Earth. In the case of stereoscopic image pair these time stamps are equals. But nowhere is written in technical specifications of rover cameras that the left and right camera take the stereo-photos really simultaneously. I have found more stereoscopic pairs where the time stamps are equals, but the content of the images are different, i.e. the left and right cameras have captured the images in two different moments. This circumstance is very important in certain cases.
These images I have sent are uniqe: they have not any pair or any series. My opinion is that these evidences were remained accidentally on these images. It is right, that I have found about 15 "flying" evidences but they are not so attractive.
ok, looking to the zooms u guys did i think we have solid evidences of "UFOs" ( in the pure sense of the acronym ) in all the 3 images.
as on the earth, the skeptics usually try to negate the evidenes upon UFOs telling simply that "the science doesn't know what they are" and that for sure there are explications : "natural phenomen unknown", "fake", "joke of lights" ecc...
i would be intrested to hear what the skeptics could invent to found an explications to these images, and i don't exclude i will do it posting this stuff on BAUT ( the most skeptic website of ever ) where i'm hated like a form very serious of cholera.
There is a point that i need to investigate more: Why the authorities are giving public access to images clearly full of anomalies ? ( for anomalies i mean stuff that isn't and can't be simply a compression artifact )
It seems to me that from a side they keep to follow their secrecy agenda, but from the other side they left something to come out, like if they would want to start to inform of certain realities the people quite open in mind to catch the message.
Look how many ex CIA ecc released amazing interviews ( Bob Lazar, Phil Corso, and others, as HUNDREDS of members of an Association of ex cilvil and militar pilots and militar officers for the disclosure done in the USA that i don't remember the name ).
I don't really think that these are simply "crazy splinters", they are moved like puppets by the authorities to start to inform the brains about realities that soon or later the terrans will have to face and to avoid the related cultural shock.
Hi Xiriux, I too could not find your first image, but I did find the second and third. Please could you post your links to save us some time The interesting thing in having to search for the images was to find a series of images where the anomalies only appeared in one image. I have never trained to work on images so I cannot comment on things like pixels etc and I do not know how to check for a time frame on the images to see how far apart they were taken to try to explain why the anomaly was not in the image before or after. Do you have that info ? That would give us an idea how fast it was moving between images. I see Xenon and ARP2 are working on image 2 and to be honest I would not know how to contribute to 1 or 2. But, I can tell you that anomaly 3 'feels' (in Papas terminology ) solid. I did pick up something else on that image that you may be able to look at.
Hi, concerning the apparent anomaly in Spirit Sol 584, I enlarged the image, used contrast, some light grain (I have Adobe Photoshop) and found this below...
Thank you ARP2 for the link, the vapour trial seems to fit in with the rest of the image, and the left extreme of the trail has a cylindrical glow which is could be a meteor, or it could be a some sort of craft
The dark object next to it is a mystery to me, it could be a data glitch or tampering, and I do not feel it is part of the vapour trail (the angle is wrong).
The arrow image is a mystery also, the image is quite poor quality and I get a feeling the distant mountains have been overlaid (tamperimg), as they do not seem to appear in other images of sol 454.
The bottom image could show a processing artefact, but I am not sure, and it will be interesting to hear other views on these images.
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xiriux, thanks for posting your images, as I already noted (after you gave me an advanced preview), these are outstanding finds!! Obvious anomalies, not easily explained away as camera lens defects, missing pixels or....swamp gas
in honesty at a first watch i can't find the first object.
instead the second and the third object are clear ( others top level finds...we rock... )
i will try to see if i can do some zooms.
as of now i can say that the third object is for sure something of anomalous : it's possible to see it clearly in the 3 dimensions and we can see the shadows upon its "structure".
about the second object i think a skeptic could argue about a possible satellite or comet or whatever some sort of star dust falling ecc... i don't have knowledge in astronomy, maybe u can help me/us to avoid these possible explications.
for the third object i'm pretty sure there aren't explications. it resembles a kind of "biological ufos" similar to some sort of worms i've seen in some videos.
ps. if the "second object" IS the white arrow ( i assumed u did the white arrow to sign the anomaly, in the first time.....i'm starting t think that i may be out of way for a linguistic problem ) i'm simpy astonished from it...
Xiriux, thanks for the new topic ! Will look at it over the next few days and revert with ideas although I imagine Humanoid, Xenon and Papa will reply as they are better on images than I am !
I recommend you some interesting (sometimes astonishing) evidences that I have found in Spirit's image gallery. I don't know where were these images captured: I do not know the Mars neither the Nevada desert or Atacama Desert. But it is fact: these evidences show that the area where these images were taken was not empty and lifeless.
The first image shows a bright object levitating over the West Plane near the Home Plate. It emits a bright beam towards the surface. Its hass a relatively low, conic form, a classic "flying saucer". As I know, this is the first offically disclosed image of such object.
The second image is the 2x magnified variant of this one after a bit rotating, because the surface is horizontal.
The next image shows an other flying object. Behind it you can observe a darker line: it resembles to jet-trail or vapour-trail (orange arrow marked) It seems that this object ascended short time before taking the photo.
And its 2x magnified variant:
The third evidence is a great enigma (blue marked). What is it? It seems that it is flying in the sky, and it was moving during exposition of image. Observe that its left edge is blurred but its right edge is sharp. This fact shoes that it was moving object. It's sure: it is not a pixel error, because the pixel error is deterministic and has typically very simple shape and does not show partially blurring.
Here is the 2x magnified variant. It shows clearly the blurred and sharp edges of the object.