The crater wall anomaly: I feel could well be some structure, either still in use or ancient. To me, it looks as if it consists of a couple of pipes going into the ground. From a 'rock' point of view, it is probably unlikely that you would get 2 separate sides like this with a shadow/darker area between them - particularly since the 'pipes' are symetrical and parallel.
The image is so crappy that it is difficult to see anything more than a general idea of whats there. ...but thats the whole point, isn't it? I think there are a few areas of blurr too which I think is the software doing its job and making things difficult to see at higher resolutions.
How did early man leave messages for those that came after? Well who are we to say that the same does not apply elsewhere in the Universe. On our moon I have come across many arrangements of rocks which look like faces. Only few make it to this site.
This one for me in Tycho crater is one of the best. Is it a message? Observations welcome. You will see that I have blacked out an area to better demonstrate the face structure.
The internet has a number of images relating to what can only be described as 'crater wall anomalies'. I'd like to add another anomaly to the list.
In slide 1 I have simply copied and pasted the actual location at 0.5 metres per pixel from the LROC Quick map site. The co-ordinates are shown bottom left.
I think you would agree that it is certainly an odd looking structure. In slide 2 - I have tried to enlarge the object, unfortunately the quality suffers badly.
Note the 15 metre square looking structure standing on its edge in front of the long anomaly which in itself is 86 metres in length.
Observations most welcome.
Slide 1 - showing a long structure which appears to go through the (crater) wall!!
Slide 2 - Structure enlarged at the expense of qualitry
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4 separately numbered images on the LROC site including the current Quick map version (top-left) all show a 25 metre high white cave, cavern or entrance.
Only 1 image at the top right shows anything different, in effect a flat structure. How the angle of the sun could possibly affect this location so dramatically I have no idea.
Its almost as if the structure has been drawn up into an upright position like a shade or hood on a babies pram. If that were the case it would be an amazing feat of engineering.
Imagine an astronaut standing in front of this for a photograph.
Observations welcome
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I guess my favourite anomaly of all is what I call the 'Gun or Drill Anomaly'. When I first found this on the LROC images a few years ago my heart definitely missed a beat. My immediate thoughts were - Taking everything into consideration .....Can a photographic computer programme produce this object out of thin air?
I think the jury's still out on that one.
At the end of the day I can only show you guys what 'I see' .....when I started all this I didn't think there was anything on the moon worth noting ........as I've said before if it later turns out to be nothing well its only me that's gonna be embarrassed.
As you can see the current images are not anywhere near the clarity of the earlier images. Maybe that is how it should be. Maybe it was all nothing - or is it?
Observations welcome even from debunkers!!
You've got to ask yourself ....how does the right hand image become the left hand image and visa versa and yet its of the same location? Personally I have no idea!!!
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Thanks so much for your message. My regards to the Mrs.
I'm sure like the rest of you guys I sit there sometimes and watch YouTube although I've stopped looking at anomaly and UFO sites. I sit here sometimes staring at the PC and I think - should I be doing more to bring some of this stuff to peoples attention? To be honest its not really me but I do get a little upset when I see the enormous machine that's behind this type of work. I guess like you I think there must be enormous amounts of money made by certain people that go on these endless tours promoting things that I find pretty mediocre.
However I was watching this film on You tube which hasn't received many hits. Its an interview with this Farmer in Montana, USA (I think), I have never heard a more convincing story of a UFO landing. This man was so annoyed that he couldn't go about his normal work driving his combine harvester to finish his days work because of 5 disks sitting on his land...... I'm convinced that the best stories are just too good to be true. Sometimes I feel that's probably where I sit in peoples perception - these anomalies seem just too good to be true. Well I came into this research totally blind - I had no idea what I was doing at the beginning - but when you've looked at over 50,000 ancient and historical manuscripts (in my everyday work) finding these 'anomalies' is not really that hard, it just needs concentration....seriously. Pareidolia??? yeh sure and the rest.
Please tell me I'm wrong about all this!!
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Some recent research I've been doing on one of my earlier finds is shown below. (I call it the Scout ship on a ramp) I hope its not too complicated. No enhancement has been used but I have used coloured arrows to identify landmarks and dashed lines to highlight the respective areas and objects.
(As I said on this thread on the 24th November)... the current quick map image shows a complete whiteout of the object under scrutiny. (See image 1)
However before the recent mapping was done by Arizona SU I managed to copy another quick map image of the same location.
This is shown in image 2. Again it is shown below alongside my original from 2014. I noticed from this image there was absolutely no evidence at all of the large white area (labelled A & B) Instead the area was in complete darkness as if covered by a shadow.
I hope the pictures speak for themselves but what I want to draw to the observers notice is the arm like object appearing now in area B. (Image 2 & 3) What was fascinating to me (and it doesn't take much) is that when I turned 'the arm' upside down it looked very much like the exit point of the ramp upon which the little scout craft sits. Observations welcome.
Image 1 - Then and Now from 24th November comparing 2 images of the same location 3 years apart.
Image 2 - Before the most recent image (above right) I managed to download another image of the same location stored on the LROC site. I have tried to show like for like using feint dashed lines and Alphabetical labels. Remember the left side image is from October 2014. The entire white area (left) labelled A and B is on the right hand image covered by 'shadow'. However, instead of the white area there appears to be some sort of mechanical arm with a loop. My question.......If the white area (left) is in shadow on the right how can this arm like object appear above it and not be seen on the left hand image. The scout ship area labelled C remains white. It looks as if the arm like object is coming out of the moons surface. Also note the ? and blue arrow lower right which highlights a strange line in the pixels running just below the anomaly.
The 'Mechanical Arm' with a loop
Image 3
When I turned this arm like object round (see lower right) I found that it resembled the ramp like structure left.
An anomaly I posted many 'moons' ago gets the same treatment to find out what the location shows on the LROC Quick map now in November 2017. For me this object resembles a cigar shaped craft with a circular opening at one end. It appears on no less than 3 different images taken at different times. Along the top of the body can be seen at least 2 triangular shaped hatch openings. The current location again shows what I commonly call white out. No doubt the sun is directly above reducing shadow to a minimum. Observations welcome.
Before I post anything new I thought I would make some comparisons with a few older anomalies originally posted here as long ago as 2012. I was wondering what they might look like today on the latest LROC images.
Please indulge me for a moment. Observations most welcome.
The first always appeared to me to be a little craft with windows sitting on a ramp. Today the location has suffered from a complete white-out!!
The second anomaly below stood out to me years ago as a sort of hovercraft. Today it appears slightly different and far less well defined.
The third anomaly below looks nothing like its earlier version.
The fourth anomaly is the only image I have ever challenged NASA on. I treasure their reply to me which says 'Its a rock....look into my eyes ....my eyes ....your suffering
from a psychological phenomenon called pareidolia!! Hmm!! Their reaction in 2014 was to upload a new image for the location seen here bottom right bearing no resemblance
I cant keep pace with all the lunar anomalies constantly hitting the internet at the moment but what I can do is show some strange objects in my own database. In the slide I have included a very long shadow,
a T shaped pipe structure, a delta shaped object and finally a very smooth and rounded anomaly. All from Tycho. They wont rock anyones world but they are interesting none the less.
As the LROC Quickmap is still down I will add another observation from the image below. This time I'm looking at an object immediately to the right of the drill or gun like anomaly.
To me this particular structure reminds me of a sluice. A regolith sluice I hear you say?. I have no idea to what degree of success there could be with such a system if indeed this is
not just a random arrangement of rocks. The concave inner wall, outlet, curved slide and the apparent presence of support legs add weight to the 'illusion'.
However I feel it is consistent with the gun carriage anomaly maybe blasting away at the surface while the conveyor or sluice selects the material to be collected, the waste eventually
passing out and down the slide back to the surface.
The anomaly above is very near to another anomaly I first uploaded here on AA in 2014. I have included the co-ordinates to that drill like anomaly in the slide above
but a quick look just a touch to the North on the same image brings the viewer to this location which I cant help think is related in some way. The anomaly reminds me of an
arrow head shaped dry dock having a deep space with steep walls either side. The near end of the dark shaped area appears to be a door connected in some way to
multi-levelled Tower like structure. I have outlined my interpretation of it but again please look at the original for your own perspective. Observations welcome,
Yes I have increased contrast to enhance the lighter areas on 2 slides to the right.
(Below - Slide shows the nearby gun carriage drill anomaly at -42.88840 etc which has a raised platform from M1045844909R as off today. Note the dry dock top right of image -
Please note that the LROC Quick map still down)
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The object contained in the slide above is not a new anomaly. In fact I have posted this a couple of times in the past. The latest offering on the LROC Quick-map however
has allowed me to make a comparison with an earlier image. I had thought it may be some sort of giant 'shield shaped' communications receiver standing on at least 2 legs but now I cant help but
think the object looks like a giant excavator with shovels rotating around its central axis. I have supplied a 'then and now' picture as it appears on the map. It definitely seems to be standing
above the surface as both images provide a shadow behind and to the right of it. Observations welcome. Please take a look at the site.
As I have said in the past if its just a rock well its certainly interesting even so!! TG
Despite the increasing number of images available on Tycho the crater continues to be covered by an ever expanding area of either gray or black on the LROC Quick map. There is an ever decreasing area which can be explored. (This relates to a Resolution of less than 16m per pixel).
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Q, you stated the screening of the images is actually done by A.I? May I ask where or how you got this Intel? I find it quite fascinating if it is indeed true. I would think only human eyes could perform a task such as this...
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The redaction shown earlier is probably more interesting and telling than the anomalies - particularly when you can show a 'before' and 'after' image to highlight what they have done. However, the anomalies are good and quite often clear to see, I enjoy looking at these threads.
I often think that the blacked out areas need to be properly identified as they are not really 'part' of the landscape in themselves, but added on top of the image. Of course, it is sometimes very difficult to differentiate what is blacked out and what is real shadow as the AI program is pretty good these days.
Actually, I feel that many of what we are seeing in images are to do with mining and bringing stuff up from the ground. So, pipes, machinery, etc for me is most of what we are seeing here in these anomalies and I feel it is less likely to be actual beings but robots or machinery. The black areas are often where the AI program has 'thought' there was something which should be covered up and so blacked out that area of the image. With software upgrades and advances in computers the algorithms are getting better and so we are allowed to see more of the rock. It might even add or fill-in rock-like terrain rather than just blacked out areas too.
For reasons behind my feelings, I have seen what I interpret as smoke and pipes and machines in the Mars photographs I have looked at. I know this is the Moon but it is likely the same beings are all over the Universe doing their mining for resources with Artificial Intelligence robotic helpers. After all, they are probably many many generations more advanced than we are so it is likely they have AI down to a fine artform. Yes, there may be beings and areas which house them, but I dont think the beings would be out in harsh environments if they could get robots to do it instead. Also, we really dont know what form these beings take so they may not be humanoid with two arms and two legs after all. Like Babylon 5, they might have 8 legs and a roundish body !
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I have tried to kill 2 birds with one stone here. The cigar shaped anomaly has been previously posted on this thread (18th Jan 2015) but I had not post an alternative view and its co-ordinates. I have now added both.
The LROC Quick map version has been added although the quality is poor. The M165911533 image already used is much clearer. I feel this structure is an interesting candidate for further investigation by NASA as this even appears to have a loading bay at the front end. (Nearest to camera) Using the LROC Quick map distance tool the object is 80m in length and 15m at its widest point. Note the tail tapering off and the 2 hatch like opening top and on the nearest side.
Box Anomaly (Bottom)
The lower anomaly is very nearby being NNW and 750m approx from the cigar anomaly and has not been posted before. To me it looks very box like with a lid that is either peeled back or oval in shape. Is it possible to have so many apparent right angles in a rock on the moons surface? From the inverted version it also looks to be hollow. Please note the pipe like structures at the front and near the top. The LROC version and supporting images from M165911533R are shown. The box like anomaly is approx. 18-20m high. its width is similar. Its depth is approximately 23m.
Thanks for the response qmantoo. You are absolutely right I will endeavour to back-track and provide co-ordinates. Apologies for the oversight. I have 90% of the locations stored so there's no excuse however please note that I always look at alternative images to see if they add anything to the observers experience. Unfortunately if there is an alternative many show the locations in complete shadow or completely washed out. If there is a good alternative view I will always post it even if it makes the original look like a rock and nothing more. With regards to the co-ordinates I'm so overjoyed at finding anything worth looking at on the LROC these days that I forget to add them. Schoolboy error!!
Sorry I haven't posted here for quite a while as I have an ongoing family issue which takes up all of my spare time.
It seems to me that we need to determine the Latitude and Longitude or a context image and then go to LROC and use different base maps and special products to find out if we can see these anomalies under different lighting conditions. I see you have done this on some of your posts which is good. Sometimes it is not easy to identify where exactly the anomaly is but with a little time we might be able to find it. Maybe even see if we can find an image of Tycho taken with a terrestrial telescope. Normally these are not as good as satellite images due to the Earth atmosphere and haze, but there are better and better images being taken as time goes on and as optics get cheaper and technology gets more advanced.
I am not denying that the images may have been altered on their way to us, but you never know, the AI program which does the altering might have missed something.
There is a WAC basemap with WAC mosaic without shadows - when the sun was overhead but the resolution is poor at 64m per pixel (wont show anything interesting)
also other various Tycho images here and also Lunar Orbiter 5 took some images of this crater too. The LO images are often not too bad and were down to 1m resolution in certain areas.
Just for fun, I did a Night time temperature map in the QuickMap page of Tycho and there appears to be a square of yellow in among the black at 6 o'clock in this image cut which I find interesting. Maybe it is a hole to an underground base !
This is the middle mountainous area of Tycho.
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I've recently taken another look at the two anomalies posted below (the 2 anomalies previously posted appeared like those to the left of the slide). Both the anomalies look odd to me. The long almost shuttle nose shaped anomaly appears to be coming out of the wall above the surface. The shadow of the larger anomaly can be seen below it. Unusual in itself. The larger anomaly as it stands looks to me to be made up of small rectangular shapes on a circular body covered in a pattern.
I was very surprised therefore when I turned the object 180 degrees to see a definite symmetry that reminds me of the lunar module. It may be a coincidence that it fall in this way for the LRO camera but interesting to me none the less. Could the object have come to a rest in this way. Observations welcome.
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Something completely new. I was looking through some old slides of anomalies when I noticed this object very close to one of them. I checked the latest online quick map and lo and behold its still there. Now I was going to provide and outline to the object I see but have now decided against posting it. It just wasn't very good. I have therefore decided not to highlight anything and leave it up to the observer to find. I am fully aware as always that it could just be rock and dust but the white platform on which this object sits is there for all to see. Once your eye has recognised this the main object falls into place. You will soon see the windows, the nose and the underbelly!! To me there is something raised at the back to reveal the white inner workings. I have highlighted the raised object with a red arch.
Why are two massive areas of Tycho Crater still blacked out at every level? I highlighted this several months ago and still these two areas are completely blacked out. Granted - You can still see M images which support the main quick map but why keep us in the dark? Even if this is shadow why use these particular images in such a project? Observations welcome!!
The two objects contained on these separate slides would not normally meet my quality control standard lol. However while they are on my pc from some while back
I cant help but keep looking at them as there seems to be something more to them than the quality of the images allows for. In addition I know roughly where they
are located but I don't have accurate co-ordinates for either of them.
Note how the top one appears to be like a cup shape against the dark landscape. It also seems to have a raised centre almost like an old fashioned lemon squeezer.
Perhaps someone else can see more in this than me. If its more than just rock and shadow surely that's the point. I will try to add co-ordinates asap.
Slide 2: This object definitely looks slightly rounded across the top but also very low to the ground. I see at least 1 distinct arch that looks like a frame or a door.
To the right it looks like a chess piece leaning against the arch. To the left it looks to me like an exhaust.
Back on the trail of Tycho Crater anomalies I've come across this interesting object. Sitting very near to Tycho's central peak I've found what looks to me to be some enormous Earth Mover.
The object appears to be symmetrical either side of its midline as the observer looks at it and it appears to have its very own 'bucket' held high above the main structure on a very powerful arm.
If that wasn't enough there also appears to be a symbol on the near side of the main body of the object resembling the letter 'A'.
In the first slide you might also see just in front of the main anomaly the numbers 20 and 19 written underneath on what appears to be a flat white 'rock'. (Thought Id mention this in passing)
The co-ordinates have been supplied on the first slide. I have also shown 2 other versions of the structure from images held on the NASA database.
Hi Masjosh thanks for your link to the image Of Tycho's central peak. I am already cross referencing with the LROC quick Map. Did you also see the link to the 'Gigapan' image of the moon Europa? It's worth a look!! Absolutely amazing image.
Gen, you have shown us several "head-like" statues on the lunar surface, specifically tycho. I cant help but wonder if the alien species who built them were like us in the regard of worshiping gods (sphinx - budda - christ etc etc)
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In the following slide please observe 3 versions of a Head like Structure at what seems to be the entrance to a cave maybe!! Note the shape of the 'skull' and the presence of a cheekbone mouth and 'eye'!!
The latest version on the LROC Quick map does seem to distort the shape slightly compared to an earlier version I have on file and that which appears in image M10484909R. It could be that this structure is made up from different stone blocks.
Location supplied on the slide.
Observations welcome.
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I look at many many thousands of square miles of lifeless featureless lunar landscape. Then all of a sudden something pops up. Sometimes I cant seem to find an explanation for. In the following slide I direct the observers attention to the bright white object in the foreground. Almost jaw-like in appearance it almost seems as if the object is floating towards the camera. My grandson calls it a 'laser gun' the lower portion resembling a hand grip to him. Even if its on the ground it is still a very peculiar shape. In the background one can see some rectilinear shapes and blocks with a seemingly intentional layout.
No enhancement has been used with the exception of enlargement of the image.
Observations most welcome. (Image number supplied on the slide)
The object contained in the following slide reminds me of the 'Rocket Firing Test Facilities' here on earth (see lower left). It seems to have a symmetry all of its own and I have highlighted this using a yellow dashed line in the lower image to the right of the slide. No enhancement has been used of any kind.
Hi Macten thank you for your work on the two 'dish' anomalies and their immediate surroundings. Much appreciated.
The following two slides show an interesting anomaly reminding me of the various rover craft. My grandson thinks it looks like Johnny 5 the 'I'm alive' robot.
I'm not an expert on the genre so I'll just let the 2 versions of the object speak for themselves. Co-ordinates are supplied on the slide.
Tycho has always been a "busy" crater. Open mining, spraying dust, lights in the crater shadows. Since the first six inch telescopes. Now commercialy available 20" telescopes can be purchased for $20k, putting it in the realm of serious astronomers. This makes possible resolution that rivals what NASA releases to the public. Ever notice they don't point Hubble at the moon? They did it once, took for ever to screen the images for release. Natural craters do not have terraced, switch backs and stepped crater walls. Some of these photos seem to have equipment sitting squat in the middle of the craters. Like they don't even mind being visible.
While attempting to find some co-ordinates for earlier finds listed in this thread I came across the slide below which I put together some time ago. Just recently I have been aware of several almost sad conspiracy theories regarding missing planes which have apparently turned up on the moon. Before anyone else lays claim to the anomaly below I will post it here. In actual fact I find the 3 right hand side anomalies far more interesting than the 3 pronged anomaly at the centre as they could all be more than just rock formations. Especially top right and bottom right. Co-ordinates supplied on the slide. Observations welcome. TG
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Having a little problem finding the location for the Satellite dish anomalies. However here is the original screenshot Showing a much wider landscape around them.
A few more very strange objects a couple of which appear to be floating above the surface. Observations welcome. (Objects have been tinted to help define what I am trying to show. Hope it doesn't distract.
The object in the upper left position has been discussed earlier.
The upper right image seems to shows a craft like object raised on a leg. The shadow passing behind and beneath the object.
The 2 objects in the lower left image appear to be floating above the surface. Probably an optical illusion but both seem to have interesting shapes and a sort of symmetry.
The objects in the lower right photo look like 2 giant Satellite dishes the one on the left overlapping the one on the right.
In the last couple of weeks I have become aware of a well publicised series of images (extracted from the google moon) which apparently show numerous buildings on the moon. Its not for me to say whether these images show buildings or not but I too have various sets of images (one of which is shown below) which also show unusual structures. Normally these images wouldn't see the light of day as I find it too difficult to work out the detail of the primary object. The quality is just not as good as I would like it to be. This is despite the fact that they are all shown at 0.5mppx. Perhaps others out there can make out the detail with better software. Observations most welcome.
The object to the left and centre both seem to have a pole or rod like structure running through their central area. The central object also seems to be supported by a frame of sorts which allows the lighter pole to show through between the darker pillars. The object to the right has a well defined shadow and appears to have '2 eye like dark areas' and a sort of symmetry.
Hi Timewarp thanks for your contribution and analysis. I have absolutely no problem in any image or anomaly that I find being represented from a different viewpoint even if it pulls it apart. Surely that's what its all about. Id rather be part of a team effort anyway. You have certainly brought out some interesting shapes which I have been earnestly cross referencing with the original. Although I always prepare a negative version of all the images I think I was preoccupied on this occasion with the central anomaly. It may be a glitch on the LROC photo but it really does look as though something is rising from its midst. I'm trying to find different angles of this sarcophagus shaped object which I'm sure must exist. I was really drawn to your take on the object to the left of the 'box'. It looks like a circular impression with a cross-like structure and a tower at its centre. Looking at the original I can now see it but it was getting lost in my eyes translation. Thanks again. Oh just one thing I'm trying to fathom why the shadow starts at the top of the 'box' leading away to the bottom right and not lower down as it should!! Must be another object behind I guess but looks strange.