Alien Anomalies

EpUlRuOsPA · Member

RE: Another Strange Mars anomaly in PIA16700

EpUlRuOsPA · Member

PIA16700

Something absolutely artificial. Part of a wall, part of a fresco or covering residuals. Whether there are at whom what assumptions?

Ken A · Member

Macten wrote:
The difference is that I am layering the pic, Putting one slightly transparent layer over another 3 times, then contrasting it a bit. I am not sure what you are doing but It does not show the detail that is required to see the small lighted objects like the teeth or small ridgelines around the eyes that are so common in these pics.

Here is an example. In the first pic you can just barely see the ridgelines around the eye and very faint teeth. (if thats what they are.)

In your pic, the over contrast blacks out some of the detail.

In the layered pic, the contrast is exemplified without loosing the detail.
If you will notice around the "Eye" there is an allmost flowered shape. This is what I mean by ridgelines. This shape is very common in the examples of reliefs or carvings I have seen in these pics as is the "sneering" appearance of the subject.
Hopefully I did not miss your point with this reply. If I did maybe you could re-iterate in a simpler way.
Happy Weekend and cheers!

The impression I get from these images is a view of a Latin mass like celebration, complete with colorful vestmented priest, altar, and altarboy.

Morbius · Veteran Member

A really fine job in the explanation, and in the comparative-analysis of the differences between the two approaches Macten. Thanks .. it is much appreciated. I can see your point in layering having a distinct advantage of visually improving the overall detail available. This is a system which seems widely adopted in the astronomy world nowadays, and I will see what is available and choose which approaches and options offered may be suitable for anomalie research. I would appreciate any suggestions as to what to look for, and, once up and running, any advice or directions as to technique, or working out, or around, any snags encountered. And will keep you informed of any new advances or fine-tuning developed. In fact, I feel certain we're going to come up with some really astonishing new techniques to share with our AA members here.

Have just downloaded a trial-version, stand alone, of the AKVIS ' Refocus ' program. It has an advanced algorithm for Refocus, Tilt-Shift, and Iris Blur too. The Refocus is designed to improve the sharpness of out of focus images, so will run it through its paces to observe if it is a valid asset to anomaly research as such. At times, I have a kinda pipe-dream in this respect Mac, that we could get all kinds of imput and ideas to put into a program custom designed for anomaly research. So that when anyone posts something, all the members can download the same pic, copy the exact same settings, and see, save for mabee screen size and such, exactly what is being pointed out and described. As is, everyone seems, admittedly with some amazing results at times, to be doing their own things and often another member is at a loss or can't quite, no matter how sincere, make out what is " apparent " to the original poster? Just a thought ... unless we can get Bill Gates private number ( fat chance I guess .. oh well ).

On a more serious note however, as to why I had not replied sooner. I know it's not mandatory or required, but somehow. perhaps mistakenly, I felt I just had to take the time to speak with Ken A some. I would have felt negligent or worse if I had said nothing at all. His newly aquired awareness of the multiple obstacles designed into the obfuscation dillemna, seems to have left him somewhat apprehensive about tackling these moronic attempts at hiding ' their secrets ' from us ( who are not fit as yet/??). I know AA is not for everyone, but I believe Ken is is the caliber of person who is greatly needed, wanted, and belongs here. Shure it is a frontier-world of deceptions and constantly shifting landscapes we wander carefully through .. but it is an adventure too .. and this I believe all our members do relish, in the many challenges we face here. I really couldn't stand by to see Ken fade out the door and dissappear into a faceless crowd kinda thing, and nobody said nothing. So I spoke up, and I don't care what the repercussians may be. Yes, perhaps I'm still over reactive or too sensitive to a potential loss as this .. even perhaps not good logical thinking either .. but it is done ... and I think it will be a good outcome nevertheless .

One note more Mac, I'm aware of your post down in ..free-speech or something like that, and will get a reply on the boards soonest. Sorry for the delay, and taking up your time in reading this .. too long I know, but I guess that's just how I write . Cheers /-M

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Macten · Veteran Member

The difference is that I am layering the pic, Putting one slightly transparent layer over another 3 times, then contrasting it a bit. I am not sure what you are doing but It does not show the detail that is required to see the small lighted objects like the teeth or small ridgelines around the eyes that are so common in these pics.

Here is an example. In the first pic you can just barely see the ridgelines around the eye and very faint teeth. (if thats what they are.)

In your pic, the over contrast blacks out some of the detail.

M's contrasted .jpg

In the layered pic, the contrast is exemplified without loosing the detail.

If you will notice around the "Eye" there is an allmost flowered shape. This is what I mean by ridgelines. This shape is very common in the examples of reliefs or carvings I have seen in these pics as is the "sneering" appearance of the subject.

Hopefully I did not miss your point with this reply. If I did maybe you could re-iterate in a simpler way.

Happy Weekend and cheers!

qmantoo · Teaching the truth

to add to the discussion, I feel that there are often weapons which are pointed at the Rover (or at anything which comes close to an inhabited area) and these weapons are hidden in rocks and they appear as circular holes or gun barrels. We have spotted them before, in panoramas in particular, so I know they exist, so this is what I would like you to consider when seeing "eyes" - that they might be these weapons. Thats my theory anyway, which is just as way-out as yours.

Weapons thread

and this one

Morbius · Veteran Member

Hello Macten, have processed a view from the original, as the site you have processed. It may appear over-sharpened, but I wished to bring out the detail, good or bad, of the obfuscation, and what may be peeking-through ... as opposed to a smoother resolution or ' picture-quality ' view which I felt would just be melding all the various effects and features into one that would not be a recognizable rendition of what we are really dealing with here .. and the results we are all striving for in unravelling this weird sites hidden mysteries. I would ask then ... are the same features you have spotted still present in this attached pic .. and what then would seem the difference between the two ??

I'm happy to see all the gang going to town on this thread ... so efferecent and productive are the views being expressed . So perhaps it will take right off and become a global phenomena ... and Hollywood will pick up on it .. mabee make it into a blockbuster movie ... like mabee " Roundup at the Rear End Ranch " or some catchy tittle like that !/ha

Seriously though, I feel Xenon will show up quite soon now, and bring us up to speed on the past, present, and future doings at AA. In the meantime, lets keep looking for our treasures and communicating our ideas and ideals to one another well. Yes .. AA ..second to none! smile /M

Macten · Veteran Member

Believe it or not....

This is what I have come up with on this pic. Like so many other odd things I find, this one is no different.

The illusion of the floating object is because of a shadow caused by an unseen shelf of rocks. It has , however been obscured along with a few other places on the main pile of "rocks" . These things I point out could be just a good dose of imagination but I will present them anyway because I believe they are really there.

This is the clarified version of this pic, triple layered. Many interesting things in the background appear to be of intelligent design.

This is a closeup of the "machine" itself. After focusing on the very small object in front of the pile, I began to see what appeared to be eyes in the rubble. I used a tool to darken them (slightly) and the rest of the objects just came into view.

Just to make sure I wasn't "seeing things" which does happen sometimes, I cut this from the original png to see if some of the objects were still there.

I compared the original cut to my enhanced cut and I believe this is what is really there.

This is part of the left side of the "machine" there is a fair amount of blurring my program could not remove. I beleive that they hid the most obvious "things" and hoped no one would see the other details in this.

I know that a lot of what I post seems to be impossible or at the least very improbable. Mainly because I dont see others posting the same type of anoms. But I feel that maybe there is someone else who sees these things and says nothing because they appear to be so rediculous and "far fetched". Maybe they fear ridicule, well I dont like it but I dont fear it.

so ridicule away, prove me wrong. Where is the Watcher?

Morbius · Veteran Member

Iceman, vitur, vinur .. takk , and Q also .. thanks for the imput. Have been looking at this peculiar pic for awhile now, and wondering, on the constructive and positive side, as to just what would have gone into the production/efforts to produce such a multi-blended fabrication in the first place. It would seem that if we could comprehend or unravel, even in degree, what effects we are observing, through some sort of reverse-engineering, we would then have a grasp, a handle, of and on how to untangle or seperate the individual applications themselves - to give a more reasonable or balanced opinion or interpretation than just throwing out offhanded attempts at descriptions or some such ' results ' ?

Could it be for example, that the ' original ' is replicated or copied .. say 5 times and reduced to a very low opacity .. and each seperate pic then being the responsibility of a seperate computer/human interface program, and who then work on a certain and distinct aspect which, when finished, is then once again rejoined or re-stacked before making its ' public appearance '??

I would prefer such a positive approach here, and would ask and encourage anyone and everyone .. dosen't matter if ' pro ', ' expert ', photography enthusiast, image-analyst, enthusiastic layman .. or whatever .. for such feedback or intel on this question as they may feel inclined to share these insights with us here on the AA forums. / -M

rdunk · Member

Well rdunk .. see what you think,

Morbius my eyes and brain have a problem "seeing" things that otherwise have a rock look. And, for me, that is the case with the items you have identified in the photos. If they are there, I don't see them, but then that is just my eyes.

rdunk · Member

qmantoo wrote:
The 'floating' "buttocks" rock seems to have been filled in by someone, so there is obviously something on the face of it that 'someone' does not want seen. If you look closely, it is pure 'smudge'.

Yes Q, I have only looked as a small part this full panorama photo, but I too have seen several other objects that had the appearance of being "worked over". I don't know that there can be any real explanation for even what this "buttocks"-looking anomaly is, but I remain of the oinion that is is not something natural. If we could just find more than one of these............................!

I did look at that pile of rocks a good bit before I the posted anomaly, but as it sat I could not make out anything anomalous.

I do appreciate KenA continuing to keep us looking at this panorama, as the suspected number of anomalous items is continuing to grow!!!!!

rdunk · Member

Hello rdunk, may have some info on your post here. But first, I want to speak about that disturbing sentence.

Morbius, you have said absolutely nothing that has been any bother for me!!!!! I am not even sure what sentence you are referring to. I did quote a sentence of yours in a reply on a different thread, that might be what you are referring to, but I only included it for addressing your comment. Everything is very fine, and YOU are not what you "say say say say say say say" you are !!!!!!!!! biggrin

Thanks for all of your considerate comments!

Let's find some really good anomalies!!!

rdunk

ICEMAN · Senior Member

This "floating rock" is maybe part of the hardware that I have outlined.

qmantoo · Teaching the truth

The 'floating' "buttocks" rock seems to have been filled in by someone, so there is obviously something on the face of it that 'someone' does not want seen. If you look closely, it is pure 'smudge'.

Morbius · Veteran Member

Hello rdunk, may have some info on your post here. But first, I want to speak about that disturbing sentence. I have read it a number of times now, and I have no idea how it ever got constructed that way .. it was not what I had meant to write by any stretch. You know I am particular to be careful in choosing and arranging my words correctly in presentations .. and how that stupid arrangement ever got in there I'll never know. I really don't want to lose a good friend and colleague over a mistake like that .. I apologize rdunk for that bizzar entry .. really stupid .. yes .. I will write that out 20X! I am stupid, really stupid,stupid,stupid,stupid,stupid,stupid,stupid. Stupid, stupid,stupid,stupid,stupid,stupid,stupid,stupid,stupid,stupid,stupid STUPID!!

There rdunk ... now, do I get off the hook ? YES or NO ? ? !! ??? !!!!! ???????? !!!!!!!!!!!!!

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Your submission pic is a good choice .. have always said you had an eye for spotting anomalies .. for shure. On first glance it was apparent what was actually present in this initially odd-looking scene. It is someones buttocks ... perhaps some NASA ' artist ' thought it would be funny .. I don't really know ( or care!). The attached should be explanatory enough I think. However, aside from this rather bizzar find, began, as usual, to look around further and observed a good many other anomalies present. What you may find of some interest however, is, of the many personel and vehicles present, two exceptional figures, which you may, or may not, discern somewhat. One appears a woman at lunch (?) sitting behind a soldier who is reading a book ( couldn't quite catch the tittle though - poor seeing conditions ).

Well rdunk .. see what you think, hope this gives a little insight .. and a bounce in your step too! Again .. my apologies .. sincerely. Cheers smile

rdunk · Member

Or a rock that is vastly different from any other rock I have seen in this photo!!

This anomaly is seen in the Photo Journal PIA16700 panoramic view of Rover Curiousity Sol day 120 photos. As I look at this, to me it just looks very odd, here in this rockfield area. It does clearly "standout" relative to all that is around it.

What is it.............I have no idea! When I first saw it, I thought it appeared to be levitating above the surface. But, I will assume it it just sitting on the surface.

The surface areas of the anomaly appear as very smooth, and somewhat rounded. Our one view of it in the photo shows a shadowed near side, and the smoooth rounded features of the top.

To confirm the panorama photo, I did go to the raw images, and I found it plainly there too. I will post a screenshot from both.

Anyone have any idea about what this is. Is it just a rock, or, could it be something else. Is it on the surface, or is it above the surface?

The panorama photo:PIA16700_fig1.jpg 19,590×2,421 pixels

Rover Curiosity Image: 0120MR0752016000E1_DXXX.jpg 1,408×1,200 pixels

-- Edited by rdunk on Wednesday 1st of May 2013 03:21:50 AM