Alien Anomalies

Iceman , thanks/takk , for putting an effort into an understanding of the constant obstacles we are encountering in anomaly research, and, as you have correctly summarized, " There are many things wrong with these pictures ", indeed, and true enough. Hopefully, others  will take the time, or dare, to present additional pieces and infromation to this puzzling, but not atypical, picture here. Yes Iceman, you have caught one aspect and presented your views, and this pushes our vision to the next level of competence ... thus making obstacles into opportunities for us all. May it be then, that the test is not the response, but a response ? skal                  -Morbius

Chandre, re; the ' overhead perspective ' shot, have downloaded this and will speak about it shortly. Firstly, I realize a ' crater '  could fill with water, and become ' a lake ', and the ' development ' , or what remains, is indeed real, but as to just how it collapsed requires a little thought, and speculation. I would take a hint from the word used to describe the area and its makeup ...sedimentary, meaning laid down in, and by ..water. A meteorite causes things to fly ' out ' in all directions ... it does not cause them to ' fall in ', and most all meteorite crater floors are very clean of any debris. Therefore, to find the crater floor with ' sand dunes ', albeit unlikely, might reflect the cause of the effects we see in the picture to relate back to ' sedimentary ', or that water-action is primarily involved here. How exactly to reconcile these many points is readily material for a lengthy, and seperate, study indeed! Another item caught my attention, as it is said the crater is ' about half a mile ' across?!! But, when viewing Pharoah's Cliff alone, I would estimate this at 50 or 60 yards/meters minimum, and looking across at the next, and the next, cliffs, it would seem that a much greater distance is involved, say 1 1/2 - 2 miles minimum?

Back to the ' overhead perspective ' then, which I downloaded, and immediately saw the evidence of massive tampering. Just my opinion .. of course. But I got to thinking, instead of me showing such in detail, how about AA members annotate and put some arrows, etc., on the attached test " What's wrong with this picture "(4). And for those who may be shy, sqeemish, or think NASA et al   can do no wrong, I would suggest they, and all for that matter, go to the Mars Anomaly Research site and view Skipper's report of October 15,2007, entitled " Image Tampering: Who Can You Trust ?" A little excerpt may be encouraging here, " the science data is heavily obfuscated using many different obscuring tactics and below are just a few examples ." These are just a few of my thoughts, and I hope informative in some degree. Lastly here, I also hope the attached test ' What is wrong with this picture ?' will awake some as to the often rough terrain involved in anomaly studies which we all in degree pursue .. and, good marking all!                  -Morbius

Iceman , hallo vinur. Hadn't looked much at the adjacent cliff, but I see you have, and caught an interesting outline ... and my interest too. Your semi-circle and radial-lines, with a demarcation-line on the cliff edge shows a keen perception, and a good illustration to go along with it too. You have really adapted to this technique, and become quite proficient . From your direction, I have examined this site and can now add a few details for us all to consider.

What is immediately clear, is that the plateau your circular outline is on, is actually a huge piece of the adjacent cliff which has been violently broken off and now lies on an angle on its side. This is evidenced not only from its angle of rest and the cleavage-line where it snapped off from the main block, now the ' other side ', but its identical dimensions are confirmingly evident in the matching details still intact from both sides of the ' new ' cliffs. Even more, smaller, pieces, are smashed away from this tilted cliff and lie in place below at the base, and are also identifiable as such.

This is then, an elementary explanation of the geological appearance we now find it in, and this leads to yet another startling discovery, for in matching-up the outlines of many major pieces of this ruined structure, we cannot be but inured to a simple observation, that these are all man-made structures. Someone, ages ago, had built here on a giagantic scale, structures that are easily equal to our own Boulder Dam, and yet extend for many many miles in the distance. To expedite somewhat here, will simply post the annotated attachments. I will get to your other pic on the next post. And one thing more Iceman, your economy of words can be .. frustrating .. at times. Could you, vinsamlegast, add a few descriptive sentences about your submissions, besides ' Two details.' ja? takk. Skal !           -Morbius

Chandre, hello. Despite being a Sub-frame, which admittedly is a ' raw ', it has still been intercepted and ' edited '/see attached. This technique just represents a different approach ... but with the same ( unfortunate ) results/effect being achieved. It  is, in my opinion, actually worse than the previous one we worked with .. just my opinion.      -Morbius

No cat, I promise. It is a mess though...see my thoughts on it.

IMHO

Area in yellow is a badly applied tampering to hide the seated figure

Red box shows a seated 'pharoah' completed with a nicely turned leg, hand and sceptre. To the left of the figure appears to be a smaller figure in keeping with similar Earth-based works at Abu Simbel.

Green box had an interesting symmetric carving

Blue box had something mechanical looking.

Chandre, your "other side of the crater" pic , when clarified a bit looks like the Morbius cat test.  There is so much junk piled on top of itself it is almost impossible to find any single object that is identifiable.  (allthough I am still trying)  I know there is a cat in there somewhere!

Chandre , I am truly sorry for the delay in posting a repy to your pictures, but will soonest. I seem to keep getting sidetracked around here. But me and Yoda have got a gift for you. An interim consolation prize ! It is for your patience ad guidance to all of us. It's not much, but you deserve a special recognition and thanks from all of us .. and so we do !   -Morbius

 I just took a review of "TW5" and any detail anyone finds in it is inconsequential. The angle of the shadows on the top and bottom do not match and the shape of the shadow in the center left does not match the profile of the skull.  This probably means that most of the pic if not all of it is faked.

IMHO

Mac

Macten, I added the El Nino stuff to entice anyone out from behind the curtain, glad to see you, and Chandre never said a word about any Alien picture, and no thanks, but I don't think I need your ' ego massage '( whatever that is ). As to just why you, and gmantoo, thought TW5 was so important, and had such " very interesting features when examined closely ", then please do share these revelations with the rest of us here ( I notice this picture has since been deleted ). You once corrected me, in your 'party killer' post, on some possible obfuscation removal approach, to which I realized you were right, thanked you and said I stand corrected, and that the party was still on. I also wrote " There is Macten too, who tries so hard, and is so astute, I a compelled to assist him with any help needed." Fact is, honestly, I have long held your work in considerable respect Macten, but you've just got to take the edge off these brassy and unnecessary comments, period. And be assured, I don't, and I hope you don't, mistake astute ( perceptive or shrewd ), for a certain veiled arrogance. And yet, depite 'all this', I continue to respect your work as commendable, and a genuine asset to all here. Further, I will stand behind my word 100%, in collaborating, commenting on, or adding support, insight or detail to, any presentations you provide .. no matter what .. and that Macten is a fair offer. As to Chandre's suprising ID speed, I believe it a naturally inborn gift, ability, or instinct ... honed by some rather extensive and quite intensive hands ( or eyes ) on training, and a constant vigilence and exercise of this gift. Reminds me of a Star Wars scene where Luke couldn't get his fighter out of the swamps, and in frustration said to Yoda 'I tried'. Yoda replied 'Try not. Do or do not, there is no try', and then lifted the craft out of the swamp onto dryer land. Luke turned with ' I don't believe it'. But Yoda simply said " That is why you fail ". Belief is that pivotal to interacting with reality it cannot be underestimated or ignored. I believed Chandre, and perhaps you now do too.!

If I didn't care Macten, all, I wouldn't say nothing, but each and every one of you means a lot to me .. AA is the only family I got, and we're going to stay together that way. And you know what, were not going to be second to nobody .. on a Global Basis! When people want to know the leading edge research, they will say go to AA, they are absolutely brilliant in their work, their clear presentations .. are the stuff legends are made of. We're going to stay together, and show to all our very best!

Anyways, thanks for hearing me out Macten, it means much to me, and hopefully to all our AA members too.               -Morbius

Thats hard for me to believe Chandre, 5 seconds? I didn't really time it but it took me at least 45 sec to 1 min.

And believe it or not, Dali is my fav.  I have a large framed poster of "Chrisopher Columbus discovers America" over my kitchen table.  I am processing several of these images and have found some "unseen" gems.  Not done yet but soon.

Morbius, you cannot believe how much you can learn from small children, the bus test is just an example. Their minds have not been 'programmed' yet so they call it as they see it, they are amazingly observant and their logic processes seem to differ from ours in some important, but not yet analysed, way.

I have taken to showing them some of our images to see what they see and it is amazing what they pick up. With the foo dog I showed them the foo images and then the Mars image and said absolutely nothing and one of them INSTANTLY saw the similarity. On Skippers Hale Crater images with the structures through the pixels, they see the buildings immediately....we have a lot to learn from them.

A long time ago on this forum we discussed Perception, it was interesting to see how different people look for different things. I explained that I had majored in Art at school and had studied Salvador Dali as my final project. I realised that he painted in multiple layers and I spent months analysing every image I could find of his (and that was before the internet LOL) so it was a mission to do. I documented what I saw, up to three layers per painting, and presented it as my final. I was called before a panel of 'experts' at the tender age of 17 and they argued I was imagining it, until I proved image by image what I was saying. Nowadays its an accepted fact that Dali's paintings are multi-dimensional, but I was the only person at that time that could see it in my peer group. Others saw it once it was pointed out, the same with the 3D images that became a fad some time ago, I saw them instantly.

My point....that you need to look at the images of Mars in the same way because of the 'adjustments', you need to look for what is not there in the way that a line starts then flows and then suddenly stops but picks up from further on, you need to step back and look at what the lines would look like if they did connect and then imagine what lies underneath. You need to think about what you have seen on Earth at ancient sites, what weathered rocks and statues look like, what areas look like after earthquakes etc and then apply that to the images. We are mainly looking at the remnants and ruins of a civilisation in the rover images so you need to use all these skills to unearth what is there. Imagine if we could control the rovers for a day, pick up the items, dust them off, turn them around....but we can't so we only have our imaginations to work with. Those imaginations are working very efficiently on this forum, which leads to some interesting and some 'out-there' anomalies being posted !

If you want to have a closer look at the image of the other side of the crater posted below, look here

http://marsrover.nasa.gov/gallery/all/1/p/1349/1P247933515ESF8788P2596R1M1.HTML

http://mars.lyleresearch.com/imagery/1P247933515ESF8788P2596R1M1.JPG.html

-- Edited by Chandre on Wednesday 23rd of January 2013 06:39:23 AM

Morbius, the cat test was interesting, it took me about 5 seconds but made me realise how difficult it was to spot the biological entity in all the clutter.ta

You have also made a statement below, very sagely, that sums up everything we are doing here and helps explain that we are NOT scientists nor are we strictly amateurs, we are a bit of both and sometimes a lot of imagination !

in the science, and art, of anomaly studies ...Morbius

While paging through the sols looking for more images I found an image that seems to have come from the opposite side of the crater. It's interesting so I decided to post it here for you to consider.

Image : 1P247933515ESF8788P2596R1M1

The immediate difference is the weathering of the rock, but there are some interesting anomalies for you to take a look at....

Here is a post you might consider, a relevant post too. Let's suppose the entire NASA picture-collection was like a city garbage-hill, but there was this adorable black and white cat walking around in it, in plain sight, and you wanted to takem home. OK, the attached is such a garbage-hill ... with such a cat. Can you spotem in say two-thirds of a second, ten seconds, more ?!! Give it a go AA ... you might call it a catundrum-test/ ha        -Morbius

Hello Chandre! Thanks for your help always! Are you suggesting that link as a new source for searching for anomalies? I ask that because the "raw images" for these "Egyptian" anomalies, at Cape St. Vincent

are found primarily in/around Sol day 1167.  

Mars Exploration Rover Mission: Multimedia: All Raw Images: Opportunity: Panoramic Camera: Sol 1167

http://marsrovers.jpl.nasa.gov/gallery/all/opportunity_p1167.html

Mark Anthony Member Status: Offline Posts: 133 Date: Sun Jan 20 15:42:29 2013	RE: " Egyptian Detail "   Edit Post Delete Post Printer Friendly Ban IP Report Spam The little rectangle piece above what you circled looks more structural in my view. That place may have something to offer in terms of edibles and water to survive. I've been looking at these different cape carvings or erosions for quite awhile now and can't make up my mind on the matter. Untill we go see first-hand then I guess we'll all be wondering forever. Noticed also btw that Bigelow Aerospace got contracted to outfit thier 3rd compartment in space to the ISS - their other 2 are still orbiting. About those stone carvings on mars; the wall does appear to have been sort of chiseled out. The entire area would be smooth and not rough if it we only from rain or wind, however, it could have simply broken off of the crater wall. Seen this image for a few years and still haven't figured it out - trully anonalous. Thanks. __________________
rdunk Member Status: Offline Posts: 73 Date: Sun Jan 20 04:38:59 2013	Edit Post Delete Post Printer Friendly Ban IP Report Spam Some of you may not have noticed, but there is another cape just behind the Cape this Egyptian statue is on. While it does not look as exciting and involved as the one we have been kicking around for some time, it does have some features, and at least one anomalous feature is worth some of our discussion. One reason it is worth discussing is, there is a somewhat similar anomaly on the face of "our cliff", just down below the Egyptian. So, I am going to post some screenshots for you, to see what some of you think about this too. It does fit right in with what I believe morbius and we all, are trying to do with this and similar threads. Also, here is a link to a photo that has both anomalies, one at the bottom of the near cape, and the other on the next cape behind. Both are identified in the screenshots. PIA10210.tif 4,000×3,993 pixels   Attachments   View image View image View image __________________
rdunk Member Status: Offline Posts: 73 Date: Sun Jan 20 03:46:21 2013	Edit Post Delete Post Printer Friendly Ban IP Report Spam Hey morbius, It is good that you are getting into some of this, here at the "Egyptian Cliff". While the Egyptian statue is possible the most obvious item on this cliff, there are many other items, as you are noting, that are similarly important to getting to the real truth of what is the reality of this place, and of Mars itself. We all can just continue to "peel this onion", as you say, at this Cape St. Vincent" until we can get every anomaly there out into the open. A few comments on the some of the anomalous looking items in this OP - the Egyptian statue is so obvious!! I do wonder how they (whoever that is) failed to obfuscate that sucker, when they were "defacing" this cliff?? Possibly because it sits back a little?? And that number 2, which I added here at some point, it also is so obvious! One can just look at it, and know "that looks just like the number 2. Some of the anomalous features you point out are a little more hard for me to visualize - doesn't mean they aren't there, but my eyes just haven't caught up with some of them yet!! :) One note on the "cave tunnel" - at the top of what looks like the steep walkway that is going up and away from us in our view, on the left side, one can see a partial "arch", which surely does make one think "entrance". Notice, there is a rock right at what would be the base of the opening, that could be used for a "step". I will post a screenshot of it here, so everyone will know what I am referring to. One can see the full cliff in one of the already posted cliff photos below. Also in a separate reply, I will post another anomalous item, that I don't think I have posted before, amywhere.   -- Edited by rdunk on Sunday 20th of January 2013 03:48:14 AM Attachments   View image

-- Edited by Chandre on Monday 21st of January 2013 06:12:20 AM