Too many images that are said taken at the surface of Mars are captured on orbit around the planet sometimes straight down and at an angle from 30 to 45 degrees.
TheWatcher, or I do not understand, or you did not understand me. I say-no falsehood in NASA expeditions to Mars.
Ok... I mis-read your statement/// sorry ! cheers
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Iceman... which said tools?? Clarification needed. @Goggog... since when has asking for clarification been like pouring cold water on something????? being honest without proof I'd stomp a lot harder but I'm being restrained ;) Calm Questions are the least of the missiles that can be lobed at this idea.. Most conspiracies have very little, actual evidence when grabbed by the throat and held in the light of examination.
AS for landing system with sky crane and winch ;) . Are u basing ur hypothesis on the fact you haven't built a system like it? Nasa landing thrusters are a well tested system... Mars Low gravity and lack of usable atmosphere for true landing resulted in the current design... Curiositys 2 tons of robot. How else would you deliver such a payload Iceman??
-- Edited by TheWatcher on Friday 7th of December 2012 04:41:39 PM
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HENRI BERGSON, Matter and Memory
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I am convinced that most of the images that are said to be taken on the surface of the planet Mars are not performed by the said tools. This applies to all expeditions. Regarding the landing technique Curiosity expedition, is almost impossible to implement it, and therefore not likely that such risks have been taken. I also believe that the answer to the questions lies in what NASA is hiding.
Iceman, as far as I can see the images in your links do not show anything that can prove beyond any doubt that the vehicle that is generating the images we are seeing is actually on Mars? I do not doubt that they may have landed something in this area...but is it Curiosity. Why does NASA feel it needs to prove the vehicle is on Mars ?
The images we are all working on at the moment show so many anomalies that are familiar to Earth that I am seriously pondering the reality of where Curiosity is taking these images from.... I am sure many of us are asking this question... if it's on Mars then we are seeing things similar to our own cultures and civilisation, if it's not on Mars then it must be somewhere on Earth, but where.
Now NASA has spent four weeks to prove that Curiosity is actually present on Mars. That they have used very sparse data that anyone could fake on a personal computer. NASA is, planting it in people's minds that Curiosity is indeed present on Mars. But truth be told, I doubt it. Keep your eyes open, notice how what NASA says rhymes with what is available on their data. There is a serious contradiction both technically and physically.
Guys, don't spoil water suspicions! Just think, in this age of technological advancement to falsify stay on Mars-signing bad judgement for the future. NASA has not finished idiots sitting around.
-- Edited by goggog on Thursday 6th of December 2012 02:25:37 PM
Hi Ice Man. I have to agree with Chandre. Can u qualify this statememnt with actual proof? There is a serious contradiction both technically and physically
Your image links are showing nothing beyond the norm. False color and hirise results. What is it in them thats making you feel unsure of her landing? Being more specific could help us understand your train of thought.
Cheers
-- Edited by TheWatcher on Thursday 6th of December 2012 02:01:24 PM
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