Timewarp, hello! Have you ever seen a large rock with mechanial parts attached, a squarish hole in the top, and a helmeted head sticking out of the hole? No, of course not, so what could be captured in your picture? The pic is at the bottom of the page with a single square outline on it. Behind this is the large ' rock '(?) as described above. Just a quick aside, hope you don't mind. I find the NASA ' camouflage ' has become so intense since Curiosity landed that it borders on fanatacism, as the armoured vehicle covering adequately illustrates. I believe however, this vehicle is part of a sinister military plan to ambush the Roadrunner! beep beep!! - Morbius
I wish I did know some space scientists so I could ask them why they have been lying to us for so very long. I only base things on personal observation now, as I don't trust any data that comes from NASA , JPL or any of the universities funded by left or right wing sources. I do believe there is animal life eeking out an existance there, I have pics of that. If you can show me something close to tangible evidence that they are still there, I would be open to the Idea.
The huge ship or ARC that was found on the moon had these people in it as well as other humanoid species. I would think that if they were leaving, they all would be leaving for the same reasons.
And yes I am referring to the famous and highly debunked video of the "Alien spaceship on the moon". and interview with its author. It sounds exactly like what our government (and the soviets) would do.
Here are two versions of the same image. The view is a close crop taken from the main image as posted above.
The anomalous tower object can be seen to the right in the lower part of the image and it would appear to be at a higher elevation than the terrain in the upper part of the view.
I have decreased the brightness and color saturation deliberately to improve clarity. The contrast level was slightly increased to improve the black level.
It would appear there are many tiny objects on the terrain and many of them would appear to be very tiny structures probably single millimeters in height.
To determine the structural forms a degree of concentrated viewing may be required.
Image credit: NASA/JPL-Caltech/MSSS(Malin)
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macten - Science also believes that there is no current life on Mars/Moon/etc.
However, there are images on here which should help you believe that there are current civilisations on Mars (if that is where these images are coming from!)
For example there is a sequence of images which show movement from one image to the next. Probably not just wind movement. and there are sequences which show a built structure/bridge being dismantled in a two-image sequence. I will try and find them for you and send the link.
There are also images of quite elaborate rock structures which, although may not be recent (as there is no evidence of 'recentness', like there is with movement between different images), it does show how the detail is still preserved and the sharp edges are also preserved without erosion. If there IS erosion, then someone must be maintaining them - look at the sphynx on Earth and they have only been here a few thousand years.
As to erosion - I have the same idea as you have. The 'wind' and 'dust devils' which we are led to believe exist on Mars do not hold out in the real life evidence as shown in photos.
The MER rovers solar panels are nearly always (relatively) clean.
There is no or very little build-up of sand in the windward direction of rocks and no erosion of sand in the leeward direction behind rocks.
The blueberries are not all bunched or blown together in piles as happens with rubbish on Earth. Even their small size does not allow them to be blown all over the place.
Now for some speculation:
Skipper or someone else, suggested that dust devils shown on satellite photos may have been geysers of liquid and NOT dust columns.
Although we have seen motion videos of dust storms and the blowing of the Phoenix wind direction indicator, we have seen not much evidence in the images for there being a wind.
Dunes on Earth are made by wind or water, but this(made by wind) is not necessarily so on Mars.
If you know any space scientists, maybe you can ask them these points?
Im sorry Iceman but I disagree on your contention that the structure would need maintenance. There appears to be not much of an atmosphere, maybe a little but not enough to produce very strong wind compaired to earth and allmost no precipitation at all. Those 2 things are what breaks down structures here on earth. There also appears to be long, and I mean very long dead creatures of enormous size whose partial skin and bones are evident in places. If these have been around for hundreds of thousands of years, or even longer periods of time, they would have been gone faster than the structures.
I am a skeptic on the theory that they still live on Mars. It is quite evident that they did, at one time, thrive here but I havent seen anything that would make me believe that they are still there. All in all this is an amazing photo that should not be ignored by the scientific community.
This is one of the largest found so far, as conclusive evidence as they can be. Congratulations Timewarp. It's all there belonging to civilized activities. It is important to understand that the area has not suffered any degradation. For example, the tower has not wiped out as comparable buildings on Earth in a few centuries,even the tower roof is in place, but it is almost impossible if the building is centuries old and no maintenance available.
I believe the finding of this new structural evidence is of major importance to the scientific world and should definitely not be overlooked.
The main object in question would appear to be a tower of some description which could only have been constructed to an intelligent design.
I have also posted another image with possible structures rectangled in yellow. In fact, the whole terrain in this area is littered with tiny structures.
Look for any objects that seem to have rectilinear or diamiond form with what appears to be a small dome on the roof.
Have a look at the images and see what you make of the objects showing in the views.
The following image is a different capture.
The object of interest is rectangled in yellow.
Mastcam image reference numbers:
0064MR0285031000E1_DXXX
0064MR0285030000E1_DXXX
Image credit:
NASA/JPL-Caltech/ MSSS (Malin)
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What I find most obvious is the track way just off the bottom left corner of your marked box in the first image. Also the structures off to the left of the track as it goes over the top of the crater edge. However the "muslim temple tower" is also obvious too.
Wonder what the official angle is on that then? Seems disclosure will come thick and fast now they have Curiosity there. These structures are hardly being hidden, so all we need is for someone official to pop their heads over the parapet and ask the right questions - and for those questions to be answered (unlike in the past)
-- Edited by qmantoo on Sunday 14th of October 2012 06:23:37 AM