Alien Anomalies

Macten · Veteran Member

RE: Apollo 16 seahorse looking thing AS16-120-19273

Macten · Veteran Member

All I know is that Skipper based some of his observations on shadows, and that was very convincing to me. If anyone can show me another pic of something similar, without going thru diversionary machinations, that the shadow wraps around but is not part of, then I will believe it is possible that the object is not an object but an "illusion". Until then I am not convinced.

And I do believe it is possible and even plausible to conjecture that objects with more than one or two right angles, or perfectly circular objects that are seen from a thousand miles away could be structures made by intelligent beings. Errors in conclusions and the disproving of such are the only way we feeble humans learn.

Another factor to take into consideration is the BLATANT obfuscation in allmost every picture released by NASA ESA The USN JPL and apparantly every other 3 or 4 letter agency supposedly responsible for the distribution of taxpayer funded resources and information.

As for closer or more detailed pics that have not been tampered with to get "under the hood" for any type of confirmation of an anomaly, good luck in our lifetimes. I deal with the cards I am dealt.

TheWatcher · Member

Macten. As I expect the ability to just talk about the anomalies when structural analysis is needed gets thrown out of the window. Skippers works? Be more specific. Is it beyond anyones ability to drill down to the point, in THIS CASE, and not any others, theres a very very strong chance of just being flat wrong. Its not an anomaly. To be frank I will make a pretty clear judgement that most anomaly hunters here have very little if any, understanding of what is tampered and what isnt. One cant judge a book by its cover, especially with orbital images due to imaging artifacts (subtle and obvious). The paradoxes of compression algorithms etc are still beyond any of you. Because an image looks hazy doesn't mean its tampered with deliberately.. Isnt anyone here up to speed with imaging and its processes? I cant be the only one here outside MarsA that has any idea or thought process that is objective. Stunning rebuttal from you Macten . Youve said absolutely nothing to further the argument. Just some beliefs based on hear say and the ever growing conspiracy infested trough of ideas which are burying the true anomalies. Believe me, Its easy to rip Skippers work (in most cases) apart but I do respect his right to thoroughly convince himself. Again i must emphasise the fact that Im an anopmaly hunter too. Just not so blinkered to swallow anything a book or conspiracy site throws at me. The alien question is key. Not personal agendas with no Substatiative proof.This isnt an ideological argument but a forensic one. This involves acute observations of both normal and anomalous features to get a better idea of what one is looking at. Also being able to foster the strength to step forward and say to fellow anomaly hunters.... Your wrong is flavor for progression! And to back that up one arguement with initial observations. To debunk should be part of an anomaly hunters armory. if you dont, shadows and blind alleys are the only things you'll be truly commenting and proclaiming on.

Macten strangly states:
As for closer or more detailed pics that have not been tampered with to get "under the hood" for any type of confirmation of an anomaly, good luck in our lifetimes. I deal with the cards I am dealt.

And for the record. If you find it hard to understand why one needs to get closer to anomalies then you are are a little further back in forward thing than I first imagined. May I point out that we have actually been to the moon and if its Nasa images you use then try and put the foot work in and look at everything! Astounding statement! ??!!
Have a chat with The Genealogist. I may not agree completely with his findings, I find his tireless clear presentations a breath of fresh air in the choking idealist world.. The images should do the talking.

TW

-- Edited by TheWatcher on Thursday 21st of March 2013 12:36:45 PM

Macten · Veteran Member

If you take another look at the pic I supplied with the shadow and the circles around it, It encompasses the base of the orb and encircles it. That is to say that part of the shadow is behind the orb.

That could not happen in your scenario. The object was probably only there when that photo was taken. It is obviosly a craft of some type that moves or changes location.(IMHO) I have also looked for it in other photos and cannot find it. Maybe it is visible in the new Chinese map but I dont have 800GB to download that !

TheWatcher · Member

The ops image is of a relatively recent impact within a much older impact of possibly billions of years ago (clue in The low-albedo interior floor is nearly level and featureless).

Ray patterns from bright sub soil tones seen from a much further distance or in the OPs post, orbital images can be interpreted as anomalies. .
judging such features from a distance is leaving one open to errors in conclusions.
The crater below is similar and part of the 100s of thousands of craters on the moon.
Closer studies of lunar crater systems, their creation, their source of structure and the peculiarities of lunar surface impacts due to Lunar geo-historic past,
will help remote sensing conclusions..

There ares some very strange anomalous craters but a much closer image is needed to get under the hood of specular illusions.

TW

-- Edited by TheWatcher on Wednesday 20th of March 2013 08:54:25 PM

The Genealogist · Veteran Member

I just wondered if you guys had considered that the pin like object protruding from the top of the 'seahorse' could be the pointed end of a safety pin? To me the dark circle at the bottom of the anomaly looks like the coil of the safety pin. Just an observation.

The following slides do not discount the possibility of a giant sphere in Firsov K crater I just couldnt find one after making a number of scans across the crater on the LRO. What I did however find is only a possible explanation. I have supplied a surface elevation towards the viewer in the original Apollo photograph.

I have magnified a very large hill the top of which reaches -180 metres. This hill reflects light very brightly. At the bottom of the steep hill is a small shelf (at -320 metres) and at the bottom of the hill there is what looks like a small crater. The bottom of this crater is at -350 metres. Going by what I have found in Tycho crater is it possible that the bright hill has 2 areas below it reflecting light differently which look like shadows at long distance. The overall effect is to create the illusion of a sphere. Just an idea. Observations welcome.

Firsov K 1.jpg

Firsov K 2.jpg

Macten · Veteran Member

There are lots of things like that in the old Apollo images. Looks like a piece of celluloid tape with dirt hair and whatever stuck to it.

ICEMAN · Senior Member

The anomaly that Willease shows made more visible.

mythsbeing-dr1,2.jpg

Macten · Veteran Member

Then why is there what appears to be a shadow around it?

-- Edited by Macten on Friday 1st of March 2013 05:44:20 PM

weirdvideos · Member

It doesn't take much to compare THAT crater highlight in the BG with the ones in the foreground and see that it is not an object, but the sun reflecting on the left side of the crater - just like in all the others.

goggog · Teaching the truth

RE: Apollo 16 морской конек штуковина AS16-120-19273

Macten · Veteran Member

RE: Apollo 16 seahorse looking thing AS16-120-19273

goggog · Teaching the truth

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The Genealogist · Veteran Member

RE: Apollo 16 seahorse looking thing AS16-120-19273

Levelwind · Senior Member

Amazing photo. Here is a link> http://www.lpi.usra.edu/resources/apollo/frame/?AS16-120-19267

This one is the origanal un-flipped view. I did a little work on the crop you made Macten.

Willease · Member

goggog wrote:

Macten, you can link?

Or at the least, what image ID number?

goggog · Teaching the truth

RE: Apollo 16 морской конек штуковина AS16-120-19273

Macten · Veteran Member

RE: Apollo 16 seahorse looking thing AS16-120-19273

weirdvideos · Member

here's the object...

weirdvideos · Member

OK, the image is B&W, someone turned off the color. here are the originals from the Apollo 16 image site:

http://www.lpi.usra.edu/resources/apollo/catalog/70mm/magazine/?120

Note, I see no seahorse, plus the images ahve been returned to normal - rotated right side back up again. The images are just upside down, that's all.

OK, I noticed a cute "object of interests", what I call a

“Onychophora,” (velvet worm), better known as a Hallucinogenia fossil; Or, a Microdictyon sp. specimen from Chengjiang, China, region. Circled in red.

The crater with white arrow is back to normal looks, and now no optical illusion of being "painted".

It is a crater with a "flat" bottom, but why the crater next to it is ruff and course, maybe that it is older?

Anyway, here's my onject of interest. Any comments are welcome.

qmantoo · Teaching the truth

Macten, there are often these round 'orb'-like things seen in the sky watching the Apollo mission and it is interesting that you have found one on the ground. I think we should have a thread to document where we have found these because - as with all these anomalies - the more similar sightings we can get, the more likely these things are to be real and not just image artifacts. Personally, I think they may well be some kind of robot drone or spy-in-the-sky keeping a close watch on our missions.

We need to find the same thing in other images from other angles and from other times/dates if possible to make sure (for the skeptics) that we are not seeing image artifacts.

well spotted.

might help occasionally although a search for KING only gives the very far-off Lunar orbiter view. Possibly a longitude and latitude search might be better.

-- Edited by qmantoo on Tuesday 26th of February 2013 09:26:22 AM

Xenon · Administrator

Willease wrote:
The second image clearly shows that somebody doctored the original. And it wasn't me.

This image has had me stumped since you posted it, at first glance it looks like the surface has been shaven leaving a large flattened plateaux , but having studied the image a little more, I agree that the image has been doctored..... "And Inverted" the image has also been stretched slightly, I also believe the seahorse feature has been added as a distraction (as can be seen in the inverted image)

The main question is.... Why invert the image?

(Willease lol...... I do not think it was you who doctored the image)

Willease · Member

The second image clearly shows that somebody doctored the original. And it wasn't me.

Xenon · Administrator

IMHO, I feel the seahorse is just a processing artefact, there are other artefacts (fibres?) in the lower right of the image, but there are plenty of other interesting anomalies (structures and possible tampering) throughout the image, really good find.

Willease · Member

as16-120-19273
http://spaceflight1.nasa.gov/gallery/images/apollo/apollo16/hires/as16-120-19273.jpg

By the way, the photo above was discovered and doctored by someone. You can see the smudged out area where the anomaly was...

http://www.archive.org/details/as16-120-19273

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