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1)There is no brightly lit body in the foreground that could account for the exposure being too short to capture the stars.

It doesn't have to be in the foreground - it just needs to be brightly lit.  If they adjusted it so they could view the stars instead, the earth and manmade objects in this image would be glaringly bright.  The Earth takes up a big portion of the image, too, so even without the satellite and other stuff, you wouldn't see the stars because of the Earth.  If this were a nighttime shot, you would more likely see stars (unless a brightly lit object was somewhere on the image).
This guy explains it a bit better.  Just the stars section.


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... and the stars from the nighttime launch of the spacecraft?

Who has stolen these from the background?

Of course, I forgot we are supposed to believe there are no stars in space.
There is no brightly lit body in the foreground that could account for the exposure being too short to capture the stars. This is the normal explanation, but in this case, there will have to be another explanation.

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1)Perhaps you can explain why you think the debris/water drop explanation or the reflection is crap please?
Actually, I did my homework and figured that it is likely a water droplet on the inside of the window. The reflections give it away (the greyish "lit" part of it is the reflection of the Earth, and the dark "shadowed" portions are actually the reflection of space. This would explain why the "object" seemed to have the shadows on it change dramatically and inconsistently - they weren't shadows at all! Also, I don't think I need to explain why it isn't a piece of debris, haha.
2)where was the drop of water? inside or outside?
It should have been inside, given both the path taken (if I'm correct) and, of course, the fact that water would boil away outside that window, given the severe lack of pressure.
3)If O'Brien was still here, he would probably tell you that it was something like water or debris.
Well, believe it or not, no one told me this was a water droplet. I entertained the idea while reading through some suggestions from gbull on this very thread. Thank you, gbull. Much appreciated.


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where was the drop of water? inside or outside?


i can't figure that out.

i don't know what it is but it just seems like a variation on the ice particle explanations.




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They said that they launched the first satellite from the shuttle at night in the video. So the stars... where are they?

Perhaps you can explain why you think the debris/water drop explanation or the reflection is crap please?

Can you also comment on the suggestion that NASA would probably have removed any anomaly in the editing room please.

If O'Brien was still here, he would probably tell you that it was something like water or debris.



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The stars are not really blocked out. They are bit visible due both to the resolution and the glare from the Earth. If this were done at night, it would be a different story.

I've heard the drop of water crap, as well as the one saying it's just a rock. The thing I don't understand is the shape- looks very irregular.

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i've read in other forums,

that thing is a drop of water. right! lol.


what we can do is document and observe. like jane goodall, took her years to explain behavior.

we are gorilla's in the mist.



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The thing that starts appearing at 10:34? I suspect that our behind-the-scenes comentator would probably say that it is nothing more than a reflection off the inside glass of the shuttle - which is why it speeds up at the end. Maybe the reflection of a watch face attached to a wrist holding the camera or something like that perhaps? Could be, waddya think?

What bothers me is that it is still there while they fade the image of the satellite into the image of Anna at 10:39 it is at the right going out of shot. I suspect that if it had been anything 'interesting' they would have removed it like the stars (2:15 - 2:32).

You also have to remember that NASA have massive photo editing capabilities through NASA TV and this must have been through the process because of all the fades in and out etc.

I really dont think there would be anything at all left in these movies which would be interesting to us anomaly-hunters.

I think photo evidence is possible more likely to be auto-processed and so there may be more liklihood of anomalies being left intact. Movies still get the personal touch.



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http://www.nss.org/resources/library/shuttlevideos/shuttle14.htm

Just found a long video documentary of the entire mission.  The weird ball thing has a dish-looking thing on it.
The weird thing just flashes into existence in the background, sits there for a bit, then accellerates, comes to a slowdown, stops, turns a little redirecting the dish-looking thing, then shoots off in another direction.  I am beyond words.

Start watching at 10:08.  The source seems reputable enough.


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No, actually.  The video I found originally with this included in it was way too long for me to point out this specific section.  I just found another video on Youtube containing just what I wanted to post so I posted the link.
I should go and find the original video, now that you mention it.


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Unfortunately Youtube is rather well-known for posting all kinds of videos and there are many amateur 'tinkerers' who change the official movies to show what they want us to see. There is also the issue that a large part of the world is barred from viewing Youtube at the moment due to governmental restrictions.

It is generally better to post images from original sites so that members can investigate these anomalies for themselves, and add to the topic by finding other things in the original photograph.

Is this a video that you yourself have posted?

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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VfmCQsPBGSo

I highly doubt it is debris- inanimate objects cannot simply change direction at will.  Besides, the round shape and the fact it comes rather close to the camera makes it rather obvious that it is not a natural object.  Also, no modern manmade spacecraft are supposed to be able to maneuver like that in an atmosphere, let alone a vacuum.

Just so I get my own anomaly topic.


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