Alien Anomalies

Chandre · Dedicated to the truth

RE: Maybe more than we see at first?

goggog · Teaching the truth

Propose to establish a theme where will collect from beads of various shapes, sizes, and so on. In short the to what interests you. Over time it will be easier to draw any conclusions smile

qmantoo · Teaching the truth

Yes, I think that is true. That is the whole point. As with people who worked in the reconaissance department in the WWII, it takes a trained eye to recognise things from the air and so it does with this stuff too. It is only by looking at loads of photographs that your eye becomes trained to seeing Martian structures. Unless of course, they are of the more obvious kind which is what we have to find to present to people who are not used to seeing these things.

Timewarp · Dedicated to the truth

If it is hard to realize the detail, it may be a case that only certain people are "tuned" to what is really there.

qmantoo · Teaching the truth

I am playing devils advocate again... go on... give me a clue to what we should be seeing.
Most visitors would not recognise anything there. Even with outlines and arrows.
There are too many black blobs which obscure the detail and distract us.

Timewarp · Dedicated to the truth

I have tried to make a closeup image of the top left-hand section of the previous view.

The view shows the detail in between the spherules which does not appear to be sand or soil.

qmantoo · Teaching the truth

Part of the reason and the design of the Microscopic Imager camera was to allow stereo images to be generated from the data, so maybe this is the next step forward - to see it in red/blue and to see where things are sticking up out from the surface of the ground or off the spherules.

The trouble is that we do not know what the soil is made up of. I believe that if you took a handful of our soil, sometimes it too would look the same and the small pieces of leaf-litter which makes it up would appear as if they are micro-structures.

In a way, I am playing devils advocate in saying this, but it has to be said that some of these things we find look like normal soil pieces and some are more obviously rectangular or circular in design. I am a small-being convert although just how small, I am still not yet quite sure.

If they are this small, why aren't they on Earth? If they are on Earth why haven't we found them?

Timewarp · Dedicated to the truth

The image that I originally posted above was the incorrect image. I have posted the correct image in the same slot. If you concentrate on what there is to see in between the spherules all of a sudden the detail will begin to make sense.

The impression made in the terrain would have to have been made by someone or something very large in proportion to the spherules. It would appear to be a heel print of some description but I do not think it was made by the rover.

qmantoo · Teaching the truth

I think we have kind of settled on the 'footprint' being caused by a mechanical thingy that depressed the blueberries and that it was probably some part on the Rover. That is the most likely explanation anyway and one which our silent watcher assures us is the case in this instance.

I also think we should go with the most likely explanation unless there is any evidence to the contrary (like being a footprint shape with toes and with a heel that has a deeper depression)

gbull · Veteran Member

i believe something depressed the blueberries.

it doesn't look like a weather related phenom. localized like that is?

naw!

gbull · Veteran Member

gong hey fat choi,

I know... someone go out and take a couple of close-up photos of their back yard.

Try to get some similar type of soil and a few small pebbles and see if we can see 'similar' structures in that. If we can, then we are all just making it up to fit our pre-conceived ideas.

i've thought about that very thing. but my stupid lumix has better resolution than a nasa rover.

well, maybe not in a close up, but i can blow up a pic pretty good.

that's the thing, how the heck can they catch soooo many tricks of light and shadow? it just don't make sense.

Timewarp · Dedicated to the truth

qmantoo wrote,

<< This subject may be too on-the-edge for some to believe it. >>

This is what I wrote about in my script and question to the NASA astrobiologist David Morrison who didn't even have the courtesy to reply. Members will remember that I highlighted something I found on the small plate at the front of the Phoenix excavation scoop which can be observed in image number lg_7851.

In the script, I also made mention of what I had found on the large rock discovered by Opportunity called "Block Island". A small section of the image of the rock can be seen in my avatar to the left.

Yes, these beings are very tiny as qmantoo says 'ant-sized'. I estimated from reseasrch I carried out that they are no more than 1.6mm in height. They are also intelligent. Now the question is that we are used to seeing things in our world as we see them without giving credence to the possibility that on other world things may appear completely different and to some people quite bizarre.

The image posted below is goggog's image which I have rotated and resized. I have softyened and resharpened it slightly to remove the artifacts and have redice the gamma by 30 points. The image contains many interesting anomalies. The arrow is pointing to what I interpret as tiny structures. If this is true then they could only have been built by very tiny intelligent beings.

qmantoo is correct in saying that maybe we should look at other areas where spherules appear to make comparisons with what has we have found in this image.

Am I suffering a case of acute pareidolia?

I don't think I am, but I will leave it to you to be the judge.

qmantoo · Teaching the truth

I know... someone go out and take a couple of close-up photos of their back yard.

Try to get some similar type of soil and a few small pebbles and see if we can see 'similar' structures in that. If we can, then we are all just making it up to fit our pre-conceived ideas.

qmantoo · Teaching the truth

So... what are we saying here?

Looking at a number of Mars Rover images, there does appear to me to be micro-civilisations on the surface. I know we have had these discussions before and I and others have posted pictures where we have identified similar small objects and structures. But... this is absolutely minute, ant-sized or less.

There is also the fact that the doughnuts(donuts) range from the huge to the tiny and appear everywhere(in these images, even on the ground and on the spherules). They are one of the first thing I notice and then I start to look at the area to see what else is showing in the photograph. I do not think that they can all be image artifacts as there are huge ones in some photos which cannot possibly be huge image artifacts.

Some of the blocky squares could be image artifacts I suppose, but it is unlikely that they would be the same in two or more photos. The algorithm which produces these would probably work on a pixel level and the low-level greyscale details of adjoining pixels would be different for each image. Wouldn't it?

This subject may be too on-the-edge for some to believe it.

goggog · Teaching the truth

goggog · Teaching the truth

At animation viewing look that in a red circle confuse

marsrocks · Veteran Member

Rotated 180 degrees:

marsrocks · Veteran Member

Marked in yellow - looks like there may also be one on the right:

marsrocks · Veteran Member

Take a look at the gif animation above - while the hole on the right side of the rock is empty - there is a tiny finger-like projection coming out of the hole on the left side of the rock.

marsrocks · Veteran Member

Timewarp,

This one caught my attention - thought it was worth a closer look:

Timewarp · Dedicated to the truth

Here are some of the anomalies I can see.

Does the detail in between the spherules appear as sand to you?

qmantoo · Teaching the truth

I occasionally feel like living dangerously, so when it was suggested to me that there may be something more to the footprint photograph, in this thread, I decided to investigate a bit further and it does look like there could be.

What it looks like to me is someone hard at work on the spherules, but of course it may just be the degree of magnification and my imagination. See what you think, and we can celebrate the Chinese New Year by pushing the boundaries of credibility a bit.

Examine the footprint stitched composite in the link above for yourselves and see what you can find. Post it on here together with maybe an arrow or circle and an interpretation.

I'll start and we will see how far we can push the boundaries of believability before they snap.

Warning - it is fairly un-believable, bearing in mind this is a few microscopic imager photos stitched together.

First the context image showing the red outline of the footprint and the yellow arrow pointing to a spherule(discussed in the other thread) and then the image with the red circled areas which is what I am referring to in this thread. As you can see the red circled areas come from the grey 'hole' in the context picture.

-- Edited by qmantoo on Tuesday 8th of February 2011 02:12:20 PM