There’s a machine next to the rim of the Arizona crater that is pumping something out of it (or into it). No mention of this machine or its purpose anywhere. Anybody any idea?
-- Frutty
Yup.. No pipes.. A road leading to museum/ Visitor centre, Road leads to car park Road Name: Meteor Crater Road
Also there was a mining operation for sand. Open cast , so shape of crater could have been changed slightly too.
Only the largest craters (20km or more diameter) are listed below; the rest are listed by geographical region on subsidiary lists. These features were caused by the collision of large meteorites or comets with the Earth. For eroded or buried craters the stated diameter typically refers to an estimate of original rim diameter and may not correspond to present surface features.
There’s a machine next to the rim of the Arizona crater that is pumping something out of it (or into it). No mention of this machine or its purpose anywhere. Anybody any idea?
But rememeber that leisure must be managed with caution, lest you start fragmenting threads till the indiscernible level of the entire forum is reached.
[sarcasm] I have nothing better to do on a Friday morning than move posts around, so I thought to myself.... "Now I have had my coffee, which posts shall I target?"
Then I looked around and I found a suitable candidate and I moved it.
It gave me a lot of pleasure, knowing that I had the power and the authority to move posts on a whim and whenever I felt like it.
Thank you for your comment. I am pleased to be of service. [/sarcasm]
Hey qman. Why disaggregating the threads if the information posted relates to the one these comments were originally posted into, and you yourself started?
Weak service you lend the forum. IMHO.
See original thread to which the responses split by qman were an adequate response to Here
"Tours around the rim and in the crater bottom are not permitted. Also, for scientific reasons collecting of meteorites within an area extending several miles around the crater is illegal and violators are vigorously prosecuted."
"Tours around the rim and in the crater bottom are not permitted. Also, for scientific reasons collecting of meteorites within an area extending several miles around the crater is illegal and violators are vigorously prosecuted."
-- Frutty
Take ur Geiger counter top the area and u,ll find a few hot spots possibly? Maybe that's why they're a bit nervous! Below is an interesting info quote. The Nevada Natiopnal Security Site[1] (N2S2), previously the Nevada Test Site (NTS), is a United States Department of Energy reservation located in southeastern Nye County, Nevada, about 65 mi (105 km) northwest of the city of Las Vegas. Formerly known as the Nevada Proving Grounds,[2] the site, established on 11 January 1951, for the testing of nuclear devices, is composed of approximately 1,360 sq mi (3,500 km2) of desert and mountainous terrain. Nuclear testing at the Nevada Test Site began with a 1-kilotonne-of-TNT (4.2 TJ)p bomb dropped on Frenchman Flat on 27 January 1951. Many of the iconic images of the nuclear era come from NTS. The Nevada Test Site contains 28 areas, 1,100 buildings, 400 miles (640 km) of paved roads, 300 miles (480 km) of unpaved roads, 10 heliports and two airstrips. p Here's some info on the crater itself:
WHERE WAS THE METEORITE?
In 1928, $200,000 was raised for a final assault on the meteorite. Barringer's directors, however, were growing nervous. When the new mine shaft hit water in such great quantities that it could not be pumped out, they consulted the astronomer F. R. Moulton for his opinion on the size of the meteorite.
Moulton calculated the amount of energy which would be produced by an impact at the enormous speed typical of a meteorite arriving from space. He concluded that an object big enough to create the crater would probably weigh only 300,000 tons - 3% of the amount estimated by Barringer, and too small to justify any further drilling. In addition, Moulton argued that the explosion caused by the impact would result in the total vaporization of the meteorite. In 1929, work was halted at the crater. By November of that year, it had become clear that other prominent scientists agreed with Moulton. Within weeks, Barringer was dead of a massive heart attack.
WHAT HAVE WE LEARNED SINCE THEN?
Scientists now believe that the crater was created approximately 50,000 years ago. The meteorite which made it was composed almost entirely of nickel-iron, suggesting that it may have originated in the interior of a small planet. It was 150 feet across, weighed roughly 300,000 tons, and was traveling at a speed of 28,600 miles per hour (12 kilometers per second) according to the most recent research. The explosion created by its impact was equal to 2.5 megatons of TNT, or about 150 times the force of the atomic bomb that destroyed Hiroshima.
In 1946, meteorite collector Harvey H. Nininger analyzed the tiny metallic particles mixed into the soil around the crater, along with the small "bombs" of melted rock within it. He concluded that both types of particles were solidified droplets, which must have condensed from a cloud of rock and metal vaporized by the impact. Here, he believed, was proof that the crater was created by explosion. Based on new computer simulations of the event by Elisabetta Pierazzo, we now know that most of the meteorite was actually melted, and spread across the landscape in a very fine, nearly atomized mist of molten metal.
In 1963, geologist Eugene Shoemaker published his landmark paper analyzing the similarities between the Barringer crater and craters created by nuclear test explosions in Nevada. Carefully mapping the sequence of layers of the underlying rock, and the layers of the ejecta blanket, where those rocks were deposited in reverse order, he demonstrated that the nuclear craters and the Barringer crater were structurally similar in nearly all respects. His paper provided the clinching arguments in favor of an impact, finally convincing the last doubters.
Gene Shoemaker's impact diagram; reprinted by permission of Carolyn Shoemaker. Three years earlier, Shoemaker, Edward Chao and David Milton had also collaborated in the discovery of a new mineral at the Barringer crater. This mineral, a form of silica called "coesite", was first created in a laboratory in 1953 by chemist Loring Coes. Its formation requir nnes pressures of at least 20,000 atmospheres (20 kilobars) and temperatures of at least 700 degL. rees Celsius - greater than any occurring naturally on earth. Coesite and a similar material called "stishovite" have since been identified at numerous other suspected impact sites, and are now accepted as indicators for the impact origin of a geologic struc nture.
Another indicator is the presence of rock structures known as "shattercones". These structures, which can be anywhere from less than an inch to more than six feet tall, can only be created by a sudden intense pressure on existing rock. During the 40's and 50's, investigations by Robert S. Dietz and others revealed the existence of shattercones at many suspected impact sites, although not at the Barringer crater. Deitz was able to demonstrate that the apexes of the cones at most of these sites all pointed upwards, indicating that the force which created them had come from above.
A third diagnostic criterion for an impact structure is the presence of tiny parallel lines called "shock lamellae" in quartz grains affected by the impact. The intense heat and pressure of the impact causes the crystals to melt along submicroscopic planes, leaving parallel bands of melted and unmelted quartz.
The Barringer Crater always leaves me a little cold. There's a lot that's happened, is happening and is going to happen around this important site.
In my humble opinion After viewing countless thousands of images, that a crater roughly reflects the shape of the object or trauma effecting the area. A number of scientists are struck by the resemblance of the crater to a nuclear explosion!
(A private opinion) something else may've crashed in that location. It's a very young crater, when looked at in the context of our 4.6 billion year old planet.
Going further on the shape of the canyon, so that we are sure it’s not what we perceive but what everybody perceives, mainly that it has a square shape, here is an excerpt from an article I found.
More Strange Ph D geologists continue to talk about the Canyon Diablo having a circular shape.
From 1910 to the 1950s different scientists estimated a mass varying between 5,000 and 5,000,000 tons. In 1963, a scientist compared the crater to those made by nuclear tests. He calculated that an energy of 1.7 megatons (1.7 million tons of TNT) would be required to produce the crater. This energy would be delivered by a mass of 63,000 tons (a sphere about 80 feet in diameter) traveling at 9 miles per second.
The resulting crater is 3400 feet across, is about 600 feet from rim to floor, and has a rim that rises 200 feet above the plain. From the air, the crater has asquarish shape. The speculation is that this results from the character of the preexisting rock formations. (Crater photo courtesy Calvin Hamilton.).
Notice also the Calvin Hamilton link is not active anymore