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Illumination, maybe this article can prove very useful for your purposes. Best of luck! smile

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I was thinking on a very primative scale. Something along the line of mulitple lenses, and a series of PVC plumbing pipe, thick and heavy duty. I was thinking of going to the pawn shop and buy this 30$ telescope they have and dismantling it to see how it functions, and just improvising with cheap materials (for the blunt of it at least). Then maybe a 5 to 8 lens mulit-magnified. Right now, i have no idea what im really talking about or getting into, the idea is crude at this point, but your idea sounds awesome as well.

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My take - probes/droid ,yes possible and more likely from orbit than landed
                Humans, highly unlikely

We are building and enormous radio telescope in SA and I know we are competing with one in Australia. I do not in any way claim to know how these work but claim are they are highly accurate. Would something like that not be better than a scope ? Probably a lot easier to build if you know what you are doing ...

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wow, both of you posted some good stuff.  And yes i know of mr. walson, his videos blow me away. At least they did. I have a funny feeling that ill never be able to afford what it is that i want. I want something even more powerful than whats available on the open market. I saw some hubble pics last night... and honestly the pictures looked way to good to be real. I mean FLAWLESS IMAGING. They could definetly zoom in on a hair on the surface of the moon if they wanted. No need to send anything there. We could scan the face of the moon constantly for movement etc. And have a super high powered probe on the darkside. That one russian photo showing that massive tower or whatever the hell it was, was honestly shocking to me. It literally hangs off the edge of the planet. Im not quite sure of its figures, but i know it has to be HUGE. I want to see that **** up close and not a blurry smudge edited tampered version of what it really is. I have even thought of trying to develop my own telescope without capped limitations. If i could cunstruct such a device, im sure someone would stop me from generating the patton. It seems like they will sell you  awesome scopes, but nothing full capable of exposing the truth. I saw some of the videos after i posted last night and looked at telescopes and honestly. Someone spent 6k on a telescope that still did not achieve what im out for. It was close but got blurry. He did show some weird stuff however. And fruit you know your a genius, ive came to your defense before because i know what your capable of. And you have always worked hard on the scraps you have been given. No one should ever try and knock you for that. I found what was said to you by some of the other poster's to be disrespectful and tastless. You rock bro. Anyways.. anyone know anything of the basic concept on constructing a telescope? They did it back in the day. I would just keep working on it till i mastered it and had a homemade awesome scope! Or could buy a cheap one and just see what i can get out of it. Thanks alot for the comments this is all hell of interesting to me, and like i said before i hardly post unless its important to me. And as far as the belt, i feel that only humans cannot survive. Devices could, but they would definetly have to be built better than what ive seen thus far. I am pretty confident none of us "humans" are on the moon but i do believe we probably have probes..rovers etc etc there probably working hard on a regular basis. And i feel like mars was nasa's way of saying "We beat you all there again". Nasa should change their hyphen to FITYMI=Fake It Till You Make It   thanks guys
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Thanks origin for those links. really gems IYNWIM smile

Currently (I might change my mind), I don't think there's a highrise or MRO or anything lol.

After I found Computer generated stuff attributed to those missions I am very suspectful about every mission to Mars.

My take on probes. I have discovered the Phoenix lander was a hoax: enough evidence Here

I don;t have any problem in accepting I have been duped. That's what i am used to already. Other will have a problem with their pride not me.

Ok. You know how hard it is to remte control your kid's toy car so it won't crash against a wall right?

More difficult yet is to remote control an aeromodelims plane right?

Imaghine how difficult it is to control a probe, that has travelled beyond the Van halen Belts. Imagine the interference caused by solar electromagnetic particles some travelling near the speed of light.

Now imagine trying to instruct cassini to take a photograph (Cassini is the one orbiting the realm about Saturn and Jupiter). You know where I am going.

Furthermore imagine the meteorites in space (tens of millions).

Have you ever heard of a probe being damaged by a meteor impact? never.

Imagine also the transmissions back to earth and assembly of the bits and bytes, that have to through all the interference I mentioned above.

When you try to find images by those probes all you find is photographs that might have been acquired by a very powerfull orbitting telescope here on earth, when not outright fakes.

Everything else is CGI and more CGI stuff showing the small little devils performing impossible stunts.

I have proved here in this forum, the animated sequence accounting for probe NEAR Shoemaker is fake in this Pertinent thread . Could you trust these eminent space agencies anymore? I for one, cannot anymore.


"Asteroid Mathilde BLINKING like a firefly"

Unenhanced last 35 frames from sequence at
http://ser.sese.asu.edu/NEAR/THUMB/ALLMATH/math_all_12.gif



https://lh5.googleusercontent.com/xIsGC_x3dxKUpBiMIeSVHMmwApSmbZUNmQMQV3UPlk9z_zQk5_OFmiPkdGM08qxbcKFNDKOxn0XrXjD1AezUksMjMQ=s512

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Sorry for the mistake.
Obviously Mr. Walson scanned the surface of the Moon, not the surface of Mars.

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Hi Illumination.
we share the same dream, i gotta say.
Not longer than i week ago i was looking up if John Lenard Walson was back or not.
I am pretty sure you know who this guy is, but if you don't then you hearth will jump in your chest once you'll give a look at his work.

His channels on YT are:

http://www.youtube.com/user/JohnLenardWalson   EARLIER
http://www.youtube.com/user/googlemoons            LATEST

His work stops at 2009. He is the guy who scanned the surface of mars at very high zoom and recorded on video many unknown spacecraft in the Earth's orbit.

I suspect his work had become too dangerous and he has been stopped from doing more research through threat and/or money.

His latest channel "googlemoons" smells a lot like a fake to me (his comments are stupid, the video titles have nothing to do with the videos).

That said, there are many users on YT who have posted videos of their telescopes scanning the surface of the moon in search of anomalies.

A few examples:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Cn995ce8fbQ
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pst5Z2uIB44&feature=related (from Lenard Walson himself)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AYa1LyVWiaQ&feature=related (from Lenard Walson himself)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fPwzkMOQt-s

Most of the times the authors write the model of the telescope they used in the video description.
This way you can get an idea of what you'd need.

Enjoy :)

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New York Herald Tribune science editor John J. O’Neill on July 29, 1953,claimed to have seen a 12-mile-long “bridge” straddling Mare Crisium. After reporting his find to the Association of Lunar and Planetary Observers, O’Neill was scorned by astronomers. However, a month later, the “bridge” was confirmed by British astronomer Dr. H.P. Wilkens, who told the BBC, "It looks artificial. It’s almost incredible that such a thing could have been formed in the first instance, or if it was formed, could have lasted during the ages in which the moon has been in existence." Further confirmation came from Patrick Moore of the British Astronomical Association, who declared the “bridge” had “popped up” almost overnight. and we have the Apollo photos to "prove" it too, but no-one wants to find out about it. shame on them.


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Hi Frutty,
i have to say that i think you are an amazing researcher and you are really passionate about your work.
I really trust your judgement and i think you are really sharp and have a brilliant mind.

That said, i would like to go a lil' more into details of what you think we have accomplished in space.

When you say that we did not send anything farther than the Van Allen Belt, you mean manned spacecrafts or both manned and automatic?
I agree 100% humans did not walk on the surface on the moon, but do you think they were not able to send any probe on it either?

Also, i agree 100% that the images we got from Mars landers are completely fake, but do you think they have their unofficial landers there which are exploring the planet or do you think they can't even send robots on Mars (or any solid planet) because of the Belt?

And what about the comets? Are the various comet mission a complete hoax too?

When i think at this very plausible scenario, a movie comes to my mind: "The Truman Show", where the firmament was nothing more than a dome with lights attached on it which resembled stars.

If this is true, why would we still want to examine the images inch by inch for anomalies (i am talking about mission images, not the telescope ones) if it is all Photoshop work?

Thank you and keep up your logic and intelligent thinking.

Marco ITA


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This may be a stupid question to some, but I wonder is there a specific telescope i can buy on a budget that can show the moon in great detail? I mean maybe not as good as seeing a fly on a rock but maybe if there was a 6ft tall person walking? My friend tells me there are high powered telescopes that are pretty stable and can view the moon at an incredible amount of detail and distance. But i dont know if he know's exactly what im trying to accomplish. What id like to do is literally comb the surface, at least the surface i have access to, inch by inch and maybe catalog strange events in like a notebook or something along those lines. Is this possible? I have a feeling its not or we would have TONS more to work with. Thats my dream right there. I talk about it constantly and if possible would do anything to make this happen. I had a 100.00 telescope from walmart. I could see the moon pretty sharp. But definetly couldnt zoom in. It would get too blurry to make anything out. The answer to this question could literally be heart breaking to me LOL. However, I am serious.

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You are welcome friend.

Just a piece of additional information. Strange events on the moon have been recorded as early as the 1500's.

  • NASA published Technical Report R-277, titled Chronological Catalogue of Reported Lunar Events, which lists more than 570 moon anomalies from 1540 to 1967.
  • Some of the more intriguing events in this study include: - A “star” was seen within the body of a crescent moon “directly between the points of her horns” on March 5, 1587. -
  • During March and April of 1787, Britain’s Sir Frederick William Herschel, pioneer of the reflecting telescope and discoverer of Uranus, claimed to have sighted three “bright spots,” four “volcanoes,” and lights moving “above the moon.” -
  • In July 1821, a German astronomer reported sighting “brilliant flashing light spots.” His was one of numerous reports of flashing or blinking lights seen on the moon. -
  • In February 1877, a line or streak of light was seen stretching across the crater Eudoxus. This light was observed for about an hour, ruling out the possibility that it was merely a meteorite striking the lunar surface with a flash. -
  • Two steaks of medium intensity light were recorded on June 14, 1940, in the crater Plato, a location where reports of lights have numbered in the thousands. - A “black cloud surrounded by violet color” was seen in the Sea of Tranquility by Canadian astronomers on September 11, 1967.
  • New York Herald Tribune science editor John J. O’Neill on July 29, 1953,claimed to have seen a 12-mile-long “bridge” straddling Mare Crisium. After reporting his find to the Association of Lunar and Planetary Observers, O’Neill was scorned by astronomers. However, a month later, the “bridge” was confirmed by British astronomer Dr. H.P. Wilkens, who told the BBC, "It looks artificial. It’s almost incredible that such a thing could have been formed in the first instance, or if it was formed, could have lasted during the ages in which the moon has been in existence." Further confirmation came from Patrick Moore of the British Astronomical Association, who declared the “bridge” had “popped up” almost overnight. Such Lunar Transient Phenomena (LTP) are well known among veteran astronomers. Bright and blinking lights, colorful displays, clouds, or mists have been reported in many lunar craters, especially those of Aristarchus, Plato, Eratosthenes, Biela, Rabbi Levi, and Posidonius.
  • Then there are the numerous NASA photos of UFOs both on and near the moon. A 1972 16mm film taken from Apollo 16 (NASA File Roll 9361) clearly depicts a spherical craft with a domed top, flying far over the moon’s cratered surface. Just as amazing are photos of gigantic cigar-shaped objects traversing the moon’s face in NASA No. 16-19238 and 11-37-5438. A Lunar Orbiter IV photo (No. LO IV 89-H-3) depicts a large, cigar-shaped object reflecting light while sitting on the surface near the crater Romer. One thing seems clear - the moon is far from being a dead world. Something is happening on our moon, something so profound that, despite our capability for further exploration, we are prevented from returning.
Download full report by right clicking on the following link and saving it to your computer:

Chronological catalog of reported lunar events (1968)
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I agree with you, THE MOON IS DEFINETLY STRANGE! This weird plain grey dead looking rock...yet with so much life and mystery. Ive seen things that look like pyramids, roads, bridges, bubbles, fires etc etc etc... yet its a grey dead planet? I think whatever is there was designed to adapt to the conditions. The biggest wish i think i have.. is that i wish i had a super telescope that could zoom all the way to the surface to even see a tiny pebble, and i would invest my days and nights monitoring the so called dead moon. And would find out for myself...but then again..zooming that far away on a pebber would be so wobbly and out of control id probably puke... i still can wish haha.. thank for the reply my brother.

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Hi Illumination.

This is my personal take of the issue. I understand it's a chocker for 90% of the readers but it’s an informed opinion.

We have never landed on the Moon. We have not been able to reach Mars either.

All the pictures we have from Apollo missions are tawdry photoshop work. Same goes for rovers and probes beyond our local position.

People trust too much on certain institutions. We have plenty of Atlases, books, flicks, encyclopedias, and tv shows, echoing the fibs and myths we have been inoculated with into our brains, and weourselves are responsible for maintaining.

The Van Halen Belts, they are a lock to the cosmos for humans (so far). We are pretty advanced in electronics, and the internet nowadays looks like a miracle.

However the final frontier, space: we are toddlers trying to fight with our pride, to be beings stranded in a island, unable to understand what lies beyond the Van Halen Belts.

Instead we have chosen to live a virtual reality in which man conquers space and flies by comets and asteroids, and send probes to Mars, and lands on faraway Saturn’s moons. Every image we see accounting for those facs are the product of awesome paint works merging state of the art telescopes orbiting the earth images, photoshop, and stories, not science in the captions written by novelists rather than scientists, that accompany them.

I know for sure The Moon is the most strange place we could imagine, beyond our comprehension, full of constructions, and outrageous effigies  , closer to mythology than to what we would expect out there in space. Had somebody landed on the moon, probably they would have lost their minds. The Moon is more akin to the paranormal than to a landscape on earth … and so is the rest of the solar system.


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Ive been pondering something for awhile now. Theres all this proof that we have landed on the moon etc, and also proof that we havent. My question is "what if"...
What if we have never really landed on the moon? What if all the close up surface pictures are fake, all video shot on the moon are fake? What if all mars images we are "FED" are fake too? Im starting to think that everything nasa feed's us is fake. The last time we landed and walked on the moon was in the 70's. The 70s??? ARE YOU FREAKING KIDDING ME? Obama's space plan is to pretty much ignore the moon and set it to the side for other projects. I agree we need to explore, but the 70's? haha. With how awesome technology is now, we should have bases and have an aggresive amount of manned aircraft constantly flowing back and forth. Theres so much hidden in the moon walk pictures its unreal. Makes me think they have alot to hide, and not because of extraterestrial activitie but because we never really landed a manned aircraft there. I was once told that our planet has a invisible radioactive layer that prevents anything living from being able to survive a certain point past our atmosphere. My conclusion which is only about 70% commited, is that we have and continue to land on the moon frequently the public just doesnt know about it. And nasa has never really shown us real picutes of the moon or mars. At least the rover pix and manned pix from moon landings. Sorry if my post seems far fetched, and i rarely post at all.. Im constantly on this site checking out new post's and love the work you guys put into the images. I really hope the images we see our actual, and not awesome and sometimes less than stellar photoshop work. Thank you for reading.

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