Alien Anomalies

qmantoo · Teaching the truth

RE: Close up of Meridiani Planum civilisation evidence.

OBrien · Member

Timewarp wrote:
O'Brien, I'm beginning to think you are employed by NASA, JPL or one of the associated universities.

You're a bit late to the party. Several members have already expressed that sentiment both explicitly and implicitly, including one who claims that I am a paid disinfo agent. For the record, I am not nor ever have been employed by NASA, JPL, or any university (except for work-study in the library when I was attending my alma mater--does that count?). Besides, I was under the impression that forum members were directed to concentrate on the evidence presented rather than the person presenting it.

Timewarp wrote:
You seem set on trying to debunk and dismiss some really serious research work that certain members of the forum are persuing.

The following has been a part of my profile biography for several months. "Whenever I see deception and confusion and misunderstaning I want to correct it with truth, reality, and true comprehension. I've met some very open-minded members here that have had their minds treated to new things and have learned the true nature of what they see -- others have unfortunately been closed-minded and rigid in their opinions. I appreciate that my knowledge has enlightened some."

As to the reference to "really serious research work" I would love to comment, but forum rules prevent me from doing so.

Timewarp wrote:
I would like to know what your particular interest is in planetary research, especially with regards to Mars, as you appear to be very well informed about the various missions and the instruments involved and also seem to know exactly where to go to find and obtain any relative reference data.

I have wide and varied interests in planetary research; some of it just from cursory reading of summary material, some of it from in-depth study. Yes, I've learned quite a bit about planetary missions and instruments over the years as well as resources for locating reference materials. It often surprises me that others find it so hard to find the answers to questions that are readily available from legitimate and credible sources on the internet.

Timewarp wrote:
In the images I have posted recently (in another thread), it can be seen in the downloaded NASA jpeg's, that after they have been 'cleaned' what appeared to be rocks are not rocks at all but clusters of tiny structures.

Blurry blobs do not a structure make. Neither do sharp "cleaned" blobs. The conclusion is not supported by the evidence.

Timewarp wrote:
If you feel this is not the case and wish to prove me incorrect please post your support material to counter the visual evidence I have displayed.

Did. I provided as much evidence as this topic warrants.

Timewarp · Dedicated to the truth

O'Brien, I'm beginning to think you are employed by NASA, JPL or one of the associated universities. You seem set on trying to debunk and dismiss some really serious research work that certain members of the forum are persuing.

I would like to know what your particular interest is in planetary research, especially with regards to Mars, as you appear to be very well informed about the various missions and the instruments involved and also seem to know exactly where to go to find and obtain any relative reference data.

O'Brien wrote:

"... a theory of tiny structures must be able to show that the images can distinguish between rocks and structures"

The images can distinguish between rocks and structures when a small degree of image processing is applied. In the images I have posted recently (in another thread), it can be seen in the downloaded NASA jpeg's, that after they have been 'cleaned' what appeared to be rocks are not rocks at all but clusters of tiny structures. If you feel this is not the case and wish to prove me incorrect please post your support material to counter the visual evidence I have displayed.

The brief of my research is to determine what is really on the surface of Mars but unfortunately the images I have to deal with need some attention to make them more acceptable. The same applies to the larger format images in the PDS library. They also need some attention before they can be examined and analyzed.

Personally, I believe we are being deprived of being able to download the more superior images and O'Brien, as you have said yourself, the jpeg images available from the NASA website are made avilable for public consumption and not scientific consumption.

OBrien · Member

Timewarp wrote:
With respect O'Brien, if you persue the research you will find the structures definitely are there and yes, they are being crushed and pulverized when the rover passes over them or do you need clarification from other sources to prove what I am saying is true?

Research consists of more than using a sharpen filter to artificially boost the contrast of an edge, and then claiming that because the edge is so sharp it must be artificial.

Support for a theory consists of more than someone else repeating the same incorrect information.

So far the evidence of structures has been:
These blurry blobs at the limit of resolution might be tiny structures
They might also be rocks and pebbles

Given that the rovers are in places that are full of rocks and pebbles, a theory of tiny structures must be able to show that the images can distinguish between rocks and structures. None has so far.

Timewarp · Dedicated to the truth

O'Brien wrote:

"But when viewed close up, miraculously, the structures are not there. (Unless, of course, they've been crushed and pulverized by the rover's wheels."

With respect O'Brien, if you persue the research you will find the structures definitely are there and yes, they are being crushed and pulverized when the rover passes over them or do you need clarification from other sources to prove what I am saying is true?

NASA is fully aware of the existence of many tiny-sized civilizations on Mars. I have sent them a script and question along with some related reference information to prove this to be the case but unfortunately, they have declined to answer the question.

qmantoo · Teaching the truth

Why is it that you only answer the questions that you can safely answer and not the ones which are asked of you?

What causes these bare patches? Is there a theory or explanation about these please?

OBrien · Member

Why is it that *every one* of the rocky patches in Meridiani Planum that Opportunity is currently passing is claimed to have little structures constructed by tiny Martians? When viewed from afar, every blob that is just at the limit of resolution is a manufactured structure in a vast, tiny city with interconnected roads, canals, tunnels, railways, and photon tubes. But when viewed close up, miraculously, the structures are not there. (Unless, of course, they've been crushed and pulverized by the rover's wheels. Or, of course, since every image from NASA is heavily tampered, obfuscated, smudged, manipulated, or computer generated it's clear that the structures are lying under the automatic secrecy smudge tampering layer and can be retrieved by using the "Reveal Alien Structures" filter in Photoshop.)

Reference: http://marsrovers.jpl.nasa.gov/gallery/all/1/p/2253/1P328283544EFFAHKCP2550L7M2.JPG