well, they are using this as the means by which they bring us towards a better understanding of the Moon.
However, it is odd that the expected 'plume' of water ice was not seen at the time by many earth-based telescopes which were assured they would see it.
On that webpage there is a discussion how the plume of debris should look, and shows us some vertical things being dropped into water/soil - but surely they would have done this BEFORE the impact and so know whether or not there would be debris thrown up. As it was, the debris was thrown 10 miles (sideways) across the craters rim. Convenient how no-one else but the spacecraft saw it after they were so certain it would appear going upwards. I suppose it may have been at a difficult angle for viewing...
"Lunar Impact Uncovered More Than Just Moon Water "
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the moon appears to be chemically active and has a full-fledged water cycle. Scientists also confirmed that 'moon water' was in the form of mostly pure ice crystals in some places.
These results are featured in six papers published in the Oct. 22 issue of Science.
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After the impacts, grains of mostly pure water ice were lofted into the sunlight in the vacuum of space.
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The suite of LCROSS and LRO instruments determined as much as 20 percent of the material kicked up by the LCROSS impact was volatiles, including methane, ammonia, hydrogen gas, carbon dioxide and carbon monoxide.
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The instruments also discovered relatively large amounts of light metals such as sodium, mercury and possibly even silver. Scientists believe the water and mix of volatiles that LCROSS and LRO detected could be the remnants of a comet impact. (Scientists believe ? ) According to scientists, these volatile chemical by-products are also evidence of a cycle through which water ice reacts with lunar soil grains.
LRO's Diviner instrument gathered data on water concentration and temperature measurements, and LRO's Lunar Exploration Neutron Detector mapped the distribution of hydrogen. This combined data led the science team to conclude the water is not uniformly distributed within the shadowed cold traps, but rather is in pockets, which may also lie outside the shadowed regions.
".....China will launch its second lunar probe, Chang'e II, at an appropriate time between Oct. 1 and 3, the Xichang Satellite Launch Center (XSLC) in southwest China's Sichuan Province announced Wednesday.
Fueling of the Long March CZ-3C rocket will begin on Sept. 30.
The lunar probe will test key technology for Chang'e III, collect data for future landings of Chang'e III and Chang'e IV, and provide high-resolution photographs of the landing area.
The Long March CZ-3C rocket will boost Chang'e II to a trans-lunar orbit, which has an apogee of 380,000 km from the earth, and then the satellite is expected to take about 112 hours, or nearly five days, to arrive at its lunar orbit.
According to China's three-phase moon exploration road map, the country plans to launch its third unmanned probe to the moon, Chang'e III, in 2013. It is expected that a moon rock sample will be returned to earth in 2017.
The satellite, Chang'e II, was produced as an alternative to Chang'e I, which as launched in 2007.
The series of Chang'e probes is named after a legendary Chinese moon goddess.
Chang'e II is expected to circle the moon at a 100-km-high moon orbit and then seek an opportunity to enter into an elliptical orbit that allows the satellite to fly only 15 km above the moon.
Carrying a stronger camera than its predecessor, Chang'e II will take pictures of the planned landing area of the Chang'e III with a resolution of 1.5 metersfrom 15 km above the moon. The resolution on Chang'e I's camera was 120 meters.
After the shooting, Chang'e II will be back to the 100-km orbit and detect the content of useful moon elements and materials and explore the characteristics of lunar soil and the space environment for further moon explorations. ....."
Do you believe, mankind has walked the long way from the animal state to a self-aware being with philosophical and technical capabilities in the very short period of two million years by natural evolution ?
Do you believe , the evolution of mankind on earth, with its coming and going of civilisations since, lets say at least one million years, could take place hidden from advanced beings, existing inside and outside the earth sphere, in a multiverse full of life and consciousness ?
Here is a big smoking gun. This article from Hoagland connects NSA to NASA/JPL.
It says NASA Administrator Dan Goldin acknowledged Admiral Bobby Inman - former NSA director, former deputy director of the CIA, former Vice Director of the Defense Intelligence Agency (DIA), and former Director of Naval Intelligence, in a speech:
"... I'd also like to acknowledge Admiral Inman, head of the JPL Oversight Committee at Cal Tech [This is JPL]. He couldn't be here today, but I talked to him by phone. His commitment to the team here is also unwavering. And I thank him for that ..."
Hmmm. Nothing there but a bunch of dirt and rocks - and the top security people in the U.S. find themselves in charge of it. I'll bet if we keep digging, we can find much more. The only other explanation for NSA involvement is keeping rocketry and aerospace secrets from being discovered by espionage. Would be nice to find out some official release about screening images. I know Malin and MSSS had the right to preview and withhold MOC images from the public for up to six months in their NASA contract. Maybe we could get a copy of that - it would be a public contract.
From: Donald Kasper <kasper_at_1stconnect.com> Date: Tue, 15 Jan 2002 22:19:04 -0800
To be released to the public at this point, no. DISA has always hated Linux. I pitched it to them for two years with no luck at all. However I did compile the entire COE on Linux in 1999 and demonstrated the CDSEdit utility to them then. This last Fall, I went directly to the Director of DISA and others in DOD to request a Linux port to support America's computer infrastructure security. The argument was that one-third of the Internet backbone is based on Linux machines according to surveys, and that the COE as a major security tool should therefore be deployed commercially to protect the net and commercial computer systems. This has apparently generated some interest, as I am now in touch with some folks who have been asked to cost a Linux port for DOD. If you want to see what the structure of the COE is, I have scanned the COE 4.1.3.0 baseline source with my Juggernautsearch engine, and posted the results on www.opencoe.com. You can download it from there. Just reading the file listing you can see what the subsystems are. I also scanned all the docs. Without using the search engine HTML query interface, you can Grep through it. This is not the full COE source, as the scan was set to remove common words. 4.1.3.0 works out to last September's build. Hey, name that security system that is the baseline for NSA computer system worldwide? (A) SELinux, (B) The COE. Answer: As of last September, it is the COE. Not only can the COE run accounts over a network, it can do so over mixed networks. It runs cross-platform under UNIX (many flavors esp. HP and SUN), and Windows NT and 2000. So you can sit on a SUN and administer PC's on the net. If you use NT, it knows all about primary/backup domain controllers (PDC's and BDC's) that were used in that architecture to administer nets. The key limitation on use of the COE with SELinux is DISA mentality that releasing source code is not secure. At least that is their justification for not doing so. Amazing that NSA has just the opposite view. A Linux build of the COE may be in your future for 2002. As for network distribution and maintenance of software, the Jet Propulsion Laboratory in Pasadena, CA (they develop the COE Kernel) has had an ongoing Java Community Process project for a year or so to develop a Java app that can distribute software over a net. It was supposed to be signed, sealed, and delivered to DOD at the first of this year for use in the COE. I have not followed up on that. My quick-and-simple solution was to write a utility called COEAnywhere, a tool that allows a client to compare all of its COE software segments to a master on a server. A comparison table is built so the user can dowload desired segments. All pure JPL software for DOD is 100% in the public domain, so I have posted that on my opencoe site. Maybe it will help you. Regards, Donald Kasper
Original Message ----- From: "Shaun Savage" <savages@pcez.com> To: "Donald Kasper" <kasper@1stconnect.com> Cc: <selinux@tycho.nsa.gov> Sent: Tuesday, January 15, 2002 2:02 PM Subject: Re: General Users
> Donald Kasper wrote: > > >You need a profile manager that is network aware. See the Common Operating > >Environment (COE) DISA project, Account Profile Management (APM) utility to > >see how they do it. NSA uses the COE, so its not foreign to them either. > >Donald Kasper > > > I would would like to find out more but some of the pages are > "restricted" and I can't get to them. I am at the COE Home page. Also > is there a linux port or any work being done with linux? > > Shaun > > > > > -- > You have received this message because you are subscribed to the selinux list. > If you no longer wish to subscribe, send mail to majordomo@tycho.nsa.gov with > the words "unsubscribe selinux" without quotes as the message.
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signals_outer_space.pdf ... lack of any identifiable response from Mars brought an end to further attempts by Earth to cooperate in a Mars-Earth communication link. A generation ... http://www.nsa.gov/public_info/_files/tech_journals/signals_outer_space.pdf - 314k
signals_outer_space.pdf ... lack of any identifiable response from Mars brought an end to further attempts by Earth to cooperate in a Mars-Earth communication link. A generation ... http://www.nsa.gov/public_info/_files/cryptologic_spectrum/signals_outer_space.pdf - 317k
"Why were all video and photographic evidence screened by the National Security Agency?
Do you realise that no information, either photographic or otherwise, reaches the public domain until it has been thoroughly scrutinised and sanitized by the US intelligence community, and has been in effect since the space program began?"
OSD, I don't doubt this is true, but is there an official source admitting this somewhere? If so, I would like to see it. Can we prove this?
„If NASA was formed as a 'civilian space agency', why were so many NASA programs funded by the US Defence Department?
Why were all astronauts subjected to US military security regulations?
Why were all video and photographic evidence screened by the National Security Agency?
Why were all the radio communications screened by the National Security Agency?
After spending millions of taxpayers' dollars planning a 'Moon City', why has the Moon not been visited by NASA since 1973?
Why are some of NASA's top photographic technicians employed to 'airbrush out' anomalies caught on film?
Why are astronauts and other NASA employees threatened with long jail sentences if they 'speak out' about what was really discovered out there in space?
Do you realise that no information, either photographic or otherwise, reaches the public domain until it has been thoroughly scrutinised and sanitized by the US intelligence community, and has been in effect since the space program began?.
Did you know that the main debates before the 'official' moon landings were regarding mining and mineral rights? Bearing in mind that the richresources of titanium, aluminium, uranium, helium 3, and god knows what else, were found on the Moon. Do you really think that the US would have then told the rest of the world to come on up and take a share? Buzz Aldrin has said in his book, 'Men From Earth' 'Another exciting energy resource on the moon is... an ample supply of the isotope Helium-3 (HE-3), which is very rare on Earth but has been deposited on the lunar surface over billions of years by the solar wind. It is estimated that at least a million tons of He-3 are readily recoverable from the regolith formations where lunar solar power stations would be practical.
This He-3 offers a key to safe, practical nuclear fusion energy on Earth. It is estimated that a single ton of He-3 delivered to Earth would be worth at least $1 Billion.'
Another issue is that one astronaut is seen to land 'heavily' after leaving the lunar module? How come when the Moon gravity is one sixth of the Earth's own gravitational pull? Even bearing in mind their heavy spacesuits which NASA claim weigh 185-190lbs, plus the astronauts weight, the total weight relative to Earth should have been 62 pounds or about four and a half stone. Again Buzz Aldrin says in his book that he weighed only 60 pounds, if this is the case they should have been able to jump at least six feet, but as official film footage shows, the astronauts struggle to jump over eighteen inches! According to the laws of physics, this simply doesn't add up. …...“