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Yeah! We probably need to go by what NASA contends. However remember that this particular shadow has convergence on either end. This can only happen when a shadow of a spherical object falls on a spherical surface and not on a flat inclined plane.

Be that as it may, here are two Hubble images in IR of elongated objects that show them moving within the rings....



And here are a couple in the visible spectrum...





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Where is the Moon?

If it is a shadow then the shape is peculiar as it converges to a point at either end.


Or could it be a shadow of something else?


Since the image goes roughly from the Cassini gap (R = 122,000 km) to the Enke gap (R = 133,000 km), Epimetheus at R = 151,000 is off the lower edge of the image outside the rings shown.

The very low solar angle creates shadows that reveal vertical structures in the rings that is otherwise not detectable. Data from these images correlated with the irregular shape of Epimetheus gives new information about the structure of the rings.

If it is a shadow of something else, it's amazing that it showed up in the same location and at the same time and moved at the same rate as the predicted shadow of Epimetheus, while the shadow of Epimetheus failed to appear.



The image is one of a series that constitute an animation of the shadow of Epimetheus traversing the ring available at

http://photojournal.jpl.nasa.gov/catalog/PIA11651

There's also another animation showing Mimas' shadow moving across the ring system which shows differing densities of ring particles at different radii at

http://photojournal.jpl.nasa.gov/catalog/PIA11660

 



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Thanks OBrien, will check it out! In the meanwhile here's an interesting image taken by Cassini. I've given the details in the image itself. The intriguing aspect is what NASA contends is a huge 'shadow' of a moon on Saturn's rings.



Where is the Moon?
If it is a shadow then the shape is peculiar as it converges to a point at either end.
Or could it be a shadow of something else?

Here's Pan's shadow. No doubts about this one!



And here's one for the road.......



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Now how do I get hold of a Cassini image in the vis range as well as in the UV spectrum? That would take more time than the sun becoming a red giant!! Because getting that kind of info from NASA is a no-go! You don't think they'll publish two similar images - one in the vis and the other in UV showing any strange object in the UV image that'll be uncomfortable for them to explain away?

You look through the Cassini UV and vis images at the Planetary Data System for images taken by the ISS through different filters at approximately the same time. I never suggested that NASA would do the work for you and publish it in side-by-side format! This is information that you have to go digging for yourself. Fortunately, the data is all readily available. You've provided image numbers on a lot of the images in your posts, the ones from Cassini should all be retrievable from the PDS. (Image numbers beginning with PIA are ones for NASA public release, you'd have to do some external searching to find the corresponding Cassini image number.)

The easiest thing to do would be to start with the images you already have that you suspect of having anomalies in them. Look up the filter info for those images. If the filters are UV, then look at the images taken around the same time to see if there are VIS or IR images available.

If, however, your suspected anomaly was taken with a visible light filter, you know that it's emitting visible wavelengths and isn't a UV-only object. That would then be evidence against the theory that it can't be seen from the ground because of blocking by the atmosphere.

 



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Thanks for the Vids and info Mike.. looking at tonight..

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Its nice to know that scientists are also thinking out of the box too with regards space travel..  looking forward to your paper Mike..

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He spoke of the Tycho anomaly and other intriguing stuff on the Moon and Solar System that makes you wonder whether he based his novels on fact?

Yup.. The intriguing thing (slightly off topic but important to some)  is the reference to Tycho in 2010 space odessey..

Wiki Plot,
The first monolith to be discovered in the modern age was unearthed on the moon near Tycho Crater due to it emitting a powerful magnetic field which was detected and investigated. It was called Tycho Magnetic Anomaly 1 (TMA-1) before the monolith was discovered. The name stuck even after it was discovered to be an obvious alien artifact. Subsequent to this, a second, larger monolith was soon discovered orbiting Jupiter and called TMA-2. A few centuries in the future, a third monolith was discovered buried on Earth in rocks that were clearly millions of years old and surrounded by primitive human artifacts. This was retroactively named TMA-0 (as opposed to TMA-3) in reference to the fact it was obviously the first monolith discovered by human ancestors in prehistoric times.

Now what brings us back to the thread is the relationship of C.Clarke & Carl Sagan (A very big fish with pioneer / Viking / Voyager etc missions especially with regards imagery, plus he was a great media babe;)). Didnt Sagan work with A.C.Clarke on Space odessey? Also when the Images of Iapetus came back to JPL It was rumoured Sagan sent the image with a note "Thinking of you".. All conjecture but I'd love to get my hands on that note if it exists.

Deathstar-Comp2.1.jpg

Now Iapetus, i think, is one of the most suspect of our solar systems moons, next to our own. It reaks of being artificial. especially that raised equater and other features which spookily resemble the Death Star!

Some may not have read this (im sure many have) but its a great read..
http://www.enterprisemission.com/moon1.htm

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What struck me was the complete no brainer in using such structures as ships! They can soak up a lot of strikes and their structure is, to say the least, a little suspect.. Ive got a folder full but Prometheus strikes me as a dark horse next to Phobos (wolf in sheep's clothing). I cant help thinking of the Owl ship in Watchmen when I look at Prometheus at certain angles (i know a bit far fetchedsmile)....

So I thought I'd post up my imagery findings on The rock. For the skeptics , I did use Spartan Imaging (our imaging technique). The craters are matchable. Ive done partial processing so some areas are left, due to time but I do find it an interesting Structure!!



Very interesting! I am in the process of writing a paper on the viability of making use of asteroids as spaceships. There are a lot of advantages doing this. As you mentioned, they would provide adequate protection from space dust/debris as also inherent protection from radiation and cosmic particles (cosmic 'rays' as some would like to call it).

And then one could carve out immense spaces inside for hydroponic farms to feed and provide oxygen for the crew and passengers (Scientists, astrobiologists, engineers, and so on). This way, several years could be spent inside these vast 'natural' spaceships to explore the Solar System and in the not too distant future, the galaxy! It would also be a fraction of the cost of constructing a space ship this size with the immense resources required.

Here's a strange moon of Saturn - Atlas - that resembles a saucer.

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Courtesy: NASA/JPL/SSI

There are many more moons of strange shapes that leads one to suspect whether there's more to them than meets the eye? By the way a White House advisor has stated that Phobos is an artificial construct! How is he so sure? Well, that's for another thread!

Ok, coming back to asteroids as giant spaceships, here's a very interesting vid of a cylindrical object in Arthur C Clarke's book, 'Rendezvous With Rama'. We know he was connected with the CIA at some time. He spoke of the Tycho anomaly and other intriguing stuff on the Moon and Solar System that makes you wonder whether he based his novels on fact?

Here's the video. See it in hi def and full screen. I'm positive that in a few hundred years we'd be exploring the Solar System in such self contained space ships dug out of large asteroids or small moons. (Note the island city in the middle of the 'sea' 10 miles wide and circling the cylinder. Fascinating to say the least!)



Now the bottom line is, if we can construct such self contained space ships within the next thousand years, then an ET civilization millions of years ahead of us in technology would surely be exploring the galaxies in these immense mini worlds. And a few may perhaps be in our Solar System too? Probably in the rings of Saturn?

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OBrien wrote:

1.If the objects are only visible for short windows of time, that makes it even more surprising that NASA missions would have captured them. The time that Hubble and Cassini spend actually taking photos is tiny.

2. Your list of Hubble instruments is quite out of date.

3. That would be great! Show the UV photo with the object in it and the visible range photo taken at the same time without it!
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OBrien, thanks for the response. At the outset I would like to apologise for the screw-up where the instrumentation aboard the HST is concerned. I had taken the info directly from one of my older files without checking it out first!! Jeeez!

Now as regards the apparent length of the objects, it's quite possible that some could be due to the result of long camera exposures/time lapse. Cassini's cameras have 63 different exposure settings, from 5 milliseconds to 20 minutes. Scientists planning an observation must choose the exposure for each image taken. It's difficult to guess what they were planning to see in these particular images and thus the time of exposures/time lapse. And 20 minutes is a long time or as I mentioned - a window.

Images can be purposely overexposed for example if the scientist is looking for something dim in intensity as a result of which the bright object may become overexposed.

Also, Optical Navigation personnel often overexpose images to see where Cassini is relative to Saturn and its moons because they need to see where these moons are in relation to the stars in the background sky.

Therefore, some of these elongated objects could well be the result of over exposure. But then, check out the IR images taken by HST in my opening post which clearly show strange 'cylindrical objects' in the rings. This certainly is not due to camera exposure! If that's the case, then the other objects in the vicinity would have also shown elogated characteristics.

Now how do I get hold of a Cassini image in the vis range as well as in the UV spectrum? That would take more time than the sun becoming a red giant!! Because getting that kind of info from NASA is a no-go! You don't think they'll publish two similar images - one in the vis and the other in UV showing any strange object in the UV image that'll be uncomfortable for them to explain away?

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One more thing thats quite important.. The images I submitted show a clear mask on left of subject. Its quite clear. Implications? Prometheus maybe a slightly different shape . Indeed if it is Prometheus!

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Mike, Really enjoyed ur thread a while ago on (other pop site).. Started me thinking about the whole situation with Phobos and Iapetus but sticking with this thread I spent a while looking closely at planetoids and such.. What struck me was the complete no brainer in using such structures as ships! They can soak up a lot of strikes and their structure is, to say the least, a little suspect.. Ive got a folder full but Prometheus strikes me as a dark horse next to Phobos (wolf in sheep's clothing). I cant help thinking of the Owl ship in Watchmen when I look at Prometheus at certain angles (i know a bit far fetchedsmile)....

072208_watchmen_1.jpg

So I thought I'd post up my imagery findings on The rock. For the skeptics , I did use Spartan Imaging (our imaging technique). The craters are matchable. Ive done partial processing so some areas are left, due to time but I do find it an interesting Structure!!

prometheusk.jpg

@ O'Brien.. Thx for info.. Im looking through what you've written with interest. Is there any examples of similar sized bodies shot at roughly same distance or further by amateurs? Im not up to speed with this area of study..

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1. The first is as to why amateur astronomers haven't been able to see these objects. Well, the answer to that one is that they do not have the capabilities of the Hubble which has a

Wide Field and Planetary Camera,
Goddard High Resolution Spectrograph,
High Speed Photometer,
Faint Object Camera, and
Faint Object Spectrograph.

The HST costs Billions of dollars. How many amateurs can afford this cutting edge technology? Even the resolutions offered by HST cannot observe details of objects less than 190 miles (300 km) across.

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That I think isn’t a big deal and the probable reason why these objects can’t be seen except at very short ‘time windows’ when they do away with their ‘cloaking’ for whatever reason (Shades of Star Trek, what?).

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Further, one must remember that these objects could well be emitting in the far-ultraviolet wavelengths (110-160 nanometers) which are absorbed by the Earth's atmosphere, and so can only be observed from space-based telescopes.



Cutting edge technology is not necessary to see objects 50,000 km in length. I was specifically talking about the ultra-huge objects such as pictured in the French newspaper, which should be easily seen by the amateur telescopes. Small objects are certainly beyond the capabilities of amateurs. But objects four times the size of Earth?

If the objects are only visible for short windows of time, that makes it even more surprising that NASA missions would have captured them. The time that Hubble and Cassini spend actually taking photos is tiny. They only get a handful of photos a day. Compare that to the amateurs who set up video cameras and record images from their telescopes all night. That's how the amateurs were able to get those images of Jupiter impacts by continuously recording night after night. If the objects are winking in and out I find it pretty surprising that NASA just happened to be snapping photos at the right moment.

Your list of Hubble instruments is quite out of date. None of the instruments listed is currently still on Hubble. The Wide Field Planetary Camera has been replaced by WFPC3. In the axial instrument bay GHRS has been replaced by STIS (Space Telescope Imaging Spectrograph). FOC, FOS, and HSP have been removed and the new instruments are NICMOS (Near Infrared Camera Multi Obkect Spectrometer), ACS (Advanced Camera for Surveys), and COS (Cosmic Origins Spectrograph).

It's all very well to say the objects <i>might</i> be emitting in the UV and only visible above the Earth's atmosphere. Well, if that's the case, you could look up the information about what instrument was taking the image and with what filters to prove it! That would be a coup! Multi color photos are composed of images taken with different filters, the individual wavelength range photos are usually available. That would be great! Show the UV photo with the object in it and the visible range photo taken at the same time without it!


 



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I collected a number of the Cassini 'needle' images as they were released and spent a long time wondering about them. In the end they seemed somehow linked to the 'structures' in the rings and I stared thinking that they may be harvesting the rings. IMHO they seem to be giant factories, harvesting and perhaps producing whatever they need, Lobsang Rampa had a bit in one of his books that talked about enormous ships/arks being sent to our galazy to harvest minerals and propogate life on different planets...perhaps this was what he meant ? Just a thought.

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You won the " AA's better post 2010" title, congratulations.
very intresting and intriguing.




Absolutely.. One of the best so far.. Really wets the curiosity. Ive followed this story for a while.

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Thanks guys! Here's some more....

SaturnCraft2.jpg

Image from Voyager II

Courtesy: Norman Burgrun


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NASA/JPL

 

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You won the " AA's better post 2010" title, congratulations.
very intresting and intriguing.




Absolutely.. One of the best so far.. Really wets the curiosity. Ive followed this story for a while.

GJ

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By the way, why can't I edit my posts? The previous one has some strange language before my post!! What the...? I tried erasing that but I keep getting the message that I'm not permitted to edit my post! Now this sucks!! furious I wonder what the problem is?

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Two issues have emerged thus far:

1. The first is as to why amateur astronomers haven't been able to see these objects. Well, the answer to that one is that they do not have the capabilities of the Hubble which has a

Wide Field and Planetary Camera,
Goddard High Resolution Spectrograph,
High Speed Photometer,
Faint Object Camera, and
Faint Object Spectrograph.

The HST costs Billions of dollars. How many amateurs can afford this cutting edge technology? Even the resolutions offered by HST cannot observe details of objects less than 190 miles (300 km) across.

 

We must remember that IF these are ET spacecraft operating in the vicinity of Saturn, then it comes about that they would at least be thousands if not millions of years ahead of us in technology. DARPA at present has successfully experimented on making soldiers ‘invisible’ by wearing special camo suits that bend light around them though it would take several years more to perfect this technology to make it battle worthy. Here we are talking ET technology a million years ahead of ours, where they could have perfected it to shield large objects in space not only across the visible spectrum but also in the UV and far IR bands. That I think isn’t a big deal and the probable reason why these objects can’t be seen except at very short ‘time windows’ when they do away with their ‘cloaking’ for whatever reason (Shades of Star Trek, what?).

 

Further, one must remember that these objects could well be emitting in the far-ultraviolet wavelengths (110-160 nanometers) which are absorbed by the Earth's atmosphere, and so can only be observed from space-based telescopes.

 

 

2. The second issue is the effect of gravity of such large objects apparently thousands of km in length with Saturn. There is the question of gravitational effects between two large objects, in this case the ET craft and Saturn. Some of you must have chanced upon and studied the myriad peer reviewed scientific papers in the LANL (Los Alamos National Lab) archives that contain the details of a phenomenon called ‘gravity shielding’ where an object can be shielded from the effects of gravity by a plasma envelope - an electromagnetic bubble in which the object is ensconced, shielding it from the effects of gravity. Additionally, such an enclosed object can achieve FTL velocities without moving an inch!

 

That said, it is probable that these objects have the technology to ‘cloak’ themselves and the reason why we can’t see them. And gravity shielding would allow them to operate near large planets without producing any gravitational anomalies.

 

I think it’s time we started thinking out of the box instead of basing our arguments on known scientific paradigms. We have a long long way to go!

 

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Thanks buddy! There's more to come. So hang on....err I mean fasten your seat belt!
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Have any of these huge objects been sighted by amateur astronomers not in league with NASA/ESA/etc. and therefore not subject to any of the pressures of secrecy/job security/scientific establishment?I am not quite sure what you mean here.

Are you saying that NASA might be making all this up because these strange items have not been viewed by amateurs outside NASA? Surely that is unlikely, isnt it?

You cannot have it both ways - suggesting in some threads that we are seeing things as a consipracy and then in this thread wondering why it is only NASA who image these large objects.

Many of them are in NASA's own photos and they cannot all be imaging artifacts as some are acknowledged by NASA scientists as being strange and currently unexplained.


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How about gravitation disturbances and interactions caused by objects in the Saturnsystem ?

 Which masses, orbits and orbit speeds are necessary to create  detectable  effects ?

Detectable from earth and / or detectable from inside of the system ?

May it be possible to hide objects of 50 to 100 miles length / diameter inside of the ringsystems ?

Regarding the diameter of normal ring particels, would objects of 50 - 100 miles length need an own propulsion to hold the orbit or not ?

http://saturn.jpl.nasa.gov/video/videodetails/?videoID=212

http://saturn.jpl.nasa.gov/news/newsreleases/newsrelease20100708/

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"....The results are published in a new study in the July 8, 2010, issue of the journal Astrophysical Journal Letters.

Cassini scientists first discovered double-armed propeller features in 2006 in an area now known as the "propeller belts" in the middle of Saturn's outermost dense ring, known as the A ring. The spaces were created by a new class of moonlets – smaller than known moons, but larger than the particles in the rings – that could clear the space immediately around them. Those moonlets, which were estimated to number in the millions, were not large enough to clear out their entire path around Saturn, as do the moons Pan and Daphnis.

Still image from the movie Propeller Churns the A Ring
This movie created from images obtained by NASA’s Cassini spacecraft shows a propeller-shaped structure created by a hidden, embedded moon moving through one of Saturn's rings.
The new paper, led by Matthew Tiscareno, a Cassini imaging team associate based at Cornell University, Ithaca, N.Y., reports on a new cohort of larger and rarer moons in another part of the A ring farther out from Saturn. With propellers as much as hundreds of times as large as those previously described, these new objects have been tracked for as long as four years.

The propeller features are up to several thousand kilometers (miles) long and several kilometers (miles) wide. The moons embedded in the ring appear to kick up ring material as high as 0.5 kilometers (1,600 feet) above and below the ring plane, which is well beyond the typical ring thickness of about 10 meters (30 feet). Cassini is too far away to see the moons amid the swirling ring material around them, but scientists estimate that they are about a kilometer (half a mile) in diameter because of the size of the propellers.

Tiscareno and colleagues estimate that there are dozens of these giant propellers, and 11 of them were imaged multiple times between 2005 to 2009. One of them, nicknamed Bleriot after the famous aviator Louis Bleriot, has been a veritable Forrest Gump, showing up in more than 100 separate Cassini images and one ultraviolet imaging spectrograph observation over this time.

"Scientists have never tracked disk-embedded objects anywhere in the universe before now," Tiscareno said. "All the moons and planets we knew about before orbit in empty space. In the propeller belts, we saw a swarm in one image and then had no idea later on if we were seeing the same individual objects. With this new discovery, we can now track disk-embedded moons individually over many years."

Propeller-shaped structure
The moon causing the propeller-shaped disturbance is likely about a kilometer (half a mile) across. At this resolution is invisible at the center of the image.
Over the four years, the giant propellers have shifted their orbits, but scientists are not yet sure what is causing the disturbances in their travels around Saturn. Their path may be upset by bumping into other smaller ring particles, or responding to their gravity, but the gravitational attraction of large moons outside the rings may also be a factor. Scientists will continue monitoring the moons to see if the disk itself is driving the changes, similar to the interactions that occur in young solar systems. If it is, Tiscareno said, this would be the first time such a measurement has been made directly.

"Propellers give us unexpected insight into the larger objects in the rings," said Linda Spilker, Cassini project scientist based at NASA's Jet Propulsion Laboratory in Pasadena, Calif. "Over the next seven years, Cassini will have the opportunity to watch the evolution of these objects and to figure out why their orbits are changing. ..."



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Have any of these huge objects been sighted by amateur astronomers not in league with NASA/ESA/etc. and therefore not subject to any of the pressures of secrecy/job security/scientific establishment?

An object 50,000 km in length (or closer to 75,000 km judging from the French newspaper photo - the entire width of the ring system from inner radius to outer radius) is easily seen by moderately sized amateur ground based telescopes worldwide with no connection to the scientific establishment.

Here's an example of what some amateurs with decent equipment are able to achieve

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Amateur astronomers all over the world are constantly monitoring the outer planets. On June 3 and again on August 20 this year, multiple amateur astronomers recorded asteroid impacts on Jupiter, unseen by any NASA/ESA telescope. Given that Jupiter and Saturn are now under so much continuous video surveillance by amateurs who have nothing to do with NASA/ESA/JAXA and nothing to gain by keeping new discoveries secret, should we be seeing any evidence of these objects that are the size of the width of Saturn's ring system?


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Here is one of my favourite threads I posted some time ago on another popular web site that spawned a lot of interest in the strange anomalies photographed by the Voyager spacecrafts and Cassini over time. So let's begin...

At the outset, I would like to mention that the clearest photographs yet of gigantic alien spacecrafts were published in the French newspaper L’actualite insolite. However, as per the comments of Dr. Norman Bergrun the author of ‘Ringmakers Of Saturn’, the photographs shown in the French Newspaper are somewhat ‘dressed up’ (Whatever that means!). John Lear mentioned this too in response to my query and wasn’t sure what that exactly meant!  

That said, this particular photograph is corroborated by another taken in the infrared spectrum by the Hubble Space Telescope of the gigantic object near Saturn.

SaturnCraft.jpg?rnd=0.5736198714556955&sizeM=3
Huge cigar shaped object clearly shown following a definite path in an orbit along
the edge of Saturn’s  ring.
Pic: HST WFPC2,  Space Telescope Science Institute (STScI)


And another....

Saturn_UFO.jpg?rnd=0.7234064818571422&sizeM=3

Now for the photograph in the French news paper which is similar to the one above, purportedly taken by Voyager near Saturn…..

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L’actualite insolite
Click here for the enlargement: http://sebastoc.free.fr/OVNI/saturne/Ringmakers1.jpg
And here for page 2: http://sebastoc.free.fr/OVNI/saturne/Ringmakers2.jpg

It is in French, so what it basically says is that those objects are massive OVNIS (UFOs) photographed by Voyager near Saturn, and put under wraps by NASA. One of the objects is Earth sized and one over 50,000 Km in length (Four times Earth’s diameter!)

How did this French news paper get its hands on this photograph? Keeping in mind the similarity with the HST’s infra red image shown above, it may be an actual photograph taken by Voyager. If genuine, the implications are mind boggling! Are we then seeing incontrovertible evidence of an alien presence in our Solar System?

And another thing. Small moonlets/asteroids even a couple of hundred miles long have been mapped and named. These objects are Earth size and some more than 50,000 Km long. Then why have these objects not been named? After all, they’ve shown up in the official photographs taken by the HST. But then, that’s probably top secret! You can’t go around naming huge alien objects, can you? Smells of a cover-up, what?

But what does one make of the enormous cylindrical objects photographed on the Moon, Phobos, Saturn and the Sun? Take a look at the photographs. Some of the objects are thousands of miles long!! As far as I know these have not been debunked as hoaxes and NASA/JPL haven’t provided any explanations, as far as I know.

So is this evidence that there are huge objects constructed by technologically advanced civilizations in the Solar System? They could be artifacts of a bygone era or probably still controlled by unknown intelligences! 

Some may say that these are probably small moons or asteroids or camera glitches. But these objects are huge elongated structures that cannot be natural.

But considering that there are more advanced civilizations in the universe than all the grains of sand on Earth, many probably millions of years ahead of us, is it a big deal for them to have traveled to the Solar System and established themselves here? What do we know? Next to nix. But you decide.


Check out the objects marked A, B and C orbiting Saturn's outer ring. These huge cigar shaped objects are clearly
shown following a definite path in an orbit along the edge of the ring.




Another cylinder near Saturn



A strange elongated object near one of the rings.






Cylindrical object photographed by John Glen – Mercury 1 Mission


A gigantic cylindrical object photographed during the SOHO/LASCO mission, seems to be breaking up near the sun.


Image: SOHO/LASCO, 13 Dec 2005


Another of Saturn's moons? Asteroid?

Enhanced…



Take a look at this pic from Cassini. Notice the 'lense flare' on the elongated object? Or is it an elongated moon? Unlikely. And it couldn't be a timed exposure which has produced this effect. It's in 'real time'.



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Another object leaving a trail behind.


Now here's an unidentified object, as NASA has admitted (In the green square), orbiting the rings of Saturn!!


Courtesy: NASA/JPL
Discovery Channel


It's NOT a moon of Saturn. Notice its orbit which remains within the outer ring.

Here are a couple more pics. Cassini snapped the photos on Feb. 23, 2004, from a distance of 62.9 million kilometers (39 million miles). Notice the two ELONGATED objects which I've marked 'A' and 'B'. These have not been satisfactorily explained so far.

Some strange pics of objects in the rings of Saturn....NASA's comments are below.


Credit: NASA/JPL/Space Science Institute

Now for the bombshell!

Scientists cannot explain all observed features. The current dilemma facing scientists is that Cassini is detecting extended objects like those pictured here.


Here's another cigar shaped object photographed from the failed Apollo 13 mission. Bob Dean, a command Sergeant major in the US Army who had a Cosmic Top Secret clearance (The highest classification, 21 levels higher than Eyes Only Top Secret!), managed to whisk away a couple of photographs before they 'disappeared'. Here's one taken by the Apollo 13 astronauts near the Moon that will astound you. The arrows point to the unidentified objects....


UFOs photographed during the Apollo 13 mission.
Courtesy: Bob Dean.


And the close-up of the object:



That cigar shaped object is 8 miles long!!

The next image that clearly shows an elongated object exiting from Saturn’s ‘F’ ring was taken in visible light with the Cassini spacecraft narrow-angle camera on June 11, 2009. The view was acquired at a distance of approximately 866,000 kilometers (538,000 miles) from Saturn and an angle of 30 degrees. Image scale is 5 kilometers (3 miles) per pixel.


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Courtesy: NASA/JPL


Zoomed...




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Courtesy NASA/JPL


And what is this?


Source: NASA/JPL


A 'light bulb' shaped object photographed by Cassini
NASA/JPL


Image from Voyager
Courtesy: Norman Burgrun



Cassini NASA/JPL


Strange patterns in Saturn's 'F' ring. Can these be natural?
NASA/JPL



Alien Spaceship(?) Shooting Plasma-Like Jets Near Saturn!!

Now this is pretty bizarre! An unidentified object near Saturn was photographed by Cassini, shooting out a plasma-like jet. Incredibly, the subsequent frames do not show the jet, indicating that the object had probably switched it off!! If it was a natural phenomenon like dust emanating from an asteroid or a small moon, then it is inconceivable that this jet of ‘dust’ would have disappeared so quickly in space.

Here’s an animation. Observe the plasma-like jet at the bottom of the picture:



It looks as if the jet has been switched off at the flick of a button!!

NASA has absolutely NO explanation to offer. What is mentioned in the Cassini-Huygens web page is….

(The Images were) taken on November 20, 2007 and received on Earth November 21, 2007. The camera was pointing toward SATURN-E RING at approximately 1,741,354 kilometers away, and the image was taken using the CL1 and CL2 filters. This image has not been validated or calibrated. A validated/calibrated image will be archived with the NASA Planetary Data System in 2008.

Take a look. The first of the original untouched images is to give you an idea of this object after the beam has been ‘switched off’.…..


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And now check out the beam shooting out from the object (moving up from the bottom of the image), which quickly attenuates in subsequent images….


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Image enhanced with filters. Notice the protrusions at the top and bottom.

There’s plenty more, but this will have to do for now. 


The truth is out there!!

Cheers!!  thumbsup.gif



All source images courtesy NASA/JPL and SOHO/LASCO.

The original NASA/JPL images:

http://saturn.jpl.nasa.gov/multimedia/images/raw/raw-images-details.cfm?feiImageID=136179
http://saturn.jpl.nasa.gov/multimedia/images/raw/raw-images-details.cfm?feiImageID=136193
http://saturn.jpl.nasa.gov/multimedia/images/raw/raw-images-details.cfm?feiImageID=136192
http://saturn.jpl.nasa.gov/multimedia/images/raw/raw-images-details.cfm?feiImageID=136191
http://saturn.jpl.nasa.gov/multimedia/images/raw/raw-images-details.cfm?feiImageID=136190
http://saturn.jpl.nasa.gov/multimedia/images/raw/casJPGFullS17/N00047648.jpg

Thanks also to Curtis Cooperman.

Refs:

http://www.ufos-aliens.co.uk/cosmicphotos.html
http://soho.no.sapo.pt/SOHO/imagens/2005/dez/Dez2005.htm
http://www.ufoarea.com/main_ufo_and_astronauts2.html
http://www.ufos-aliens.co.uk/cosmicmars.htm
http://www.hufos.net/news_in_general_26.html
http://dsc.discovery.com/news/briefs/20040906/saturn_zoom0.html
http://www.abovetopsecret.com/forum/thread226728/pg1
http://saturn.jpl.nasa.gov/multimedia/images/image-details.cfm?imageID=1700
http://ciclops.org/view/5683/Punching_through_the_F_Ring?js=1

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