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papadipongo


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i want just to calrify that usually i am very skeptic about the kind of evidence treated in this thread or similar.
this include ; worms, thiny people and generally alien and plant lifeforms.
usually i focus on the "debris" category, less afflicted by misinterpretation and more difficult to be debunked easily.

anyway the glass tubes are a reality, an anomaly common to dozens of images.

the theory suggested by Arp2 is very intresting beacuse different from any other usual explication for the glass tubes we may heard ( geologic formation, particular plant lifeform, alien artifacts used as streets or simlar )

Now i agree we dont have any "Proof" at the moment, but without doubt i can say that this is an "Intresting" and "Alternative" theory that i feel deserves to dont be discareded too fast.


@Chandre
ah ok thx.
about the idea to categorise repeated kind of anomalies selecting the stronger ones i agree totally.
we have evidences very strong, categorizing the better stuff will add a touch of mars anomaly research and i think probably at a near level.
if u want to organize the thing count me in to help with a category or anything else.

@gbull
if u play i and will do the song "faces in the sand" i want to hear it lol.



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Papa, the zoom on my image is from another thread and image, I was just posting it to comment on the similarity to ARP2 as we are building up the 'worm' evidence.

ARP2 gave us a very interesting thread on different types of possible 'worms' a while back and I ,for one, am looking for any similar evidence to support her theaory. Just as I am looking for g-deltas, rocks with antennas and various other anomalies that we have found repeated at different sites. If we get enough evidence we can start to categorise the anomalies and people can post new finds under one thread.

We really do not know what is on the surface of Mars and we really are not able to trust the images either, so its a bit of a guessing game. But any repeated anomaly adds to the pile of evidence and is worth discussing.

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qman,

look, i been quiet about alot of things here, only because of the, who the hell knows argument.


some people are deff pushing the limits of belief.

the photo enhancements in particular.

i look at this stuff and cringe. giant, minnies, faces in the sand, (i'll use that for a title for a song)

i understand that some modification of photos need to be done, like crops, zooms but hell, this can really compromise any other stuff we try to find with what we are given.


i am not that susceptible to suggestions, i see what i see.

we are grasping for want of hard evidence.

sorry for the rant.

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The point is that there is an automatic program that adds dark areas to the image and we do not know on any photograph, not just this one, if what we see as a dark area is really a dark area. It could be one where the obscuring program has added a black area over what it 'thinks' is an anomaly. All this means that we interpret 'depth' using dark and light regions, but if these have been manipulated, we cannot be sure and so we make assumptions.

Any creature at the same distance as a geological feature would have the same amount of detail in it as the geological feature has. If these are worms then we need to identify similar features in other worms and make a study of them. We also need to show how the worms themselves have features on their body (I have disected worms for exams and they have many bodily structures, they are not just long living featureless 'tubes').

I cannot help feeling that we are opening ourselves up to riducule and disbelief it we cannot make a proper case showing comparisons and similarities. It is not good enough to show a fuzzy black hole and say that it is a worms mouth. People need more than this to accept what you are proposing because it is a radical idea.

This is where someone like Software Pyrate was good for us all because he would be a voice of a disbeliever and we would make extra effort to show our evidence in a way which would allow more people to believe it. So, now that I have said this, shoot me down.

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By caforio at 2010-09-06

and what about this : if the tubes ARE the worms ?
this doean't seems a worm with an head..or maybe a bottom, out from the ground and over that black hole ?


By caforio at 2010-09-06

this is also sosupicious : i mean there a re a lot of strange things, for example u can see quite easily a thiny worm that runs from the southern part of the hole, cross the hole,  and run on the northern border, with ending parts really resembling to a tale ( southern hole ) and an orrible protuberance ( northern hole ) with a couple of sinister dark points at the top.
A glass tube seems to cross in the right-center the dark hole, and directly near it there is an evident blurring intervention with a streak of obfuscation that runs vertically for all the image.


there is at least another anomaly but it isn other that a lone shining spheric "rock", that can be seen easily adding contrast


By caforio at 2010-09-06


ps : Chandre how u have been able to zoom so deeply without to loose resolution ?

i tried to download the image from the site but i got an error i cannot work it out, i simply copied the image that's seems to make me loose a lot of resolution if i zoom too much confuse, to be able to zoom deeply could be intresting i smell...



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very intriguing theory Arp.
In effect the worm's mouth or whatevr it is is very strange, and it's without doubt that in this image we see a ground surface particular, it seems really characterized by a sort of fibrous matter that could be the product of an "insectoid" creature.
the tubes could be their eggs ? or what else ?



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ARP2, very nice work on those images. I can see exactly what you are pointing out. The 'mouth' on the top one seems to have a strange symmetry similar to the 'collars' we found on that earlier thread.

PSP_010457_2070_RED_NOMAP_crop 2.jpg

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I am sorry ARP2 but I cannot see it either, I agree the full image has some unusual aspects and there may be tampering evidence, but the worms look to be natural geological features, although interestingly just below where you thought was a worm with its mouth open, there seems to be a metallic type tunnel entrance and other anomalies (although these too may be  natural geology), but it is difficult to get much detail from theses images (even inverted). no


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Nope, just cant see it myself... sorry. Possibly it is my screen which does not have very small dots in it, I need to get a better one. Do these worms that you can see all look the same?

Other people have reported that these tubes have lights inside and animal figures or glyphs on the outside. How do the worms make those?

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I found these worms actively making those so-called "glass tubes"... I've never believed they were actually "glass".  It is my opinion that these tubes are worm tunnels, kind of a clear/transparent membrane reinforced by those white strands we often see encircling them.  In these two images (actually from one image strip), it shows a few worms, and in one you can see the worm's mouth open with the dark tube coming out of it's mouth.  You can also see that coming out the sides of the dark tube are those white strands which help support the clear membrane tunnels.  It appears that the white strands come out of holes on the sides of the dark tube.
With the other worms in these two images you can see the dark tube part only, as the rest of the worm with it's mouth open appears to be under the snow/ice/or sand.
But just look close and you can see white strands actually coming out of the dark tubes... It's all very interesting!
ARP2


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