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Hello chandre:)

Moving thread:
Thank you for volunteering to do that. I would prefer to rely on your familiarity with this forum to select the most appropriate new home for some parts of this "introduction".

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Thisgoodriddle, I can suggest two options for a thread, either Freedom of Expression or the General Discussion threads. I can copy the relevant parts of this post there for you to assist you to start a thread if you like ?

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Hello qmantoo:)

Thanks for your invitation for me to mention the area(s) of research which interest me most at the moment. Although Mars and the Moon are of interest to me, I do not limit my attention to merely them. For instance, some Phobos photos support the idea that there has been war between civilizations in our Solar System. So do some photos of the Moon. I'm referring to the "machine gun" tracks of craters. A possible alternative explnation for such tracks is the electric theory of the universe, as espoused by sites such as http://www.thunderbolts.info/ The reason that the idea of war between civilizations is of particular interest to me is that the message, which began to be written and hidden (in a piece-meal fashion) in approximately 1500 BC, possibly mentions such conflicts, past and future. I say "possibly" for two reasons. One reason is that not all of the message has been retrieved from the nooks and crannies wherein parts of it were hidden. The other reason is that the message has a figurative meaning in addition to the literal meaning. To access the figurative meaning, the riddles must be solved. The solving of the riddles must perforce lag the retreval of the parts of the message. Nevertheless, a sufficient number of riddles have already been solved to at least hint at the possibility of war between civilizations in our Solar System. One motive for such war(s) might be the definite statement that at least one civilization in our Solar System arrived here from another solar system, which was mentioned by name. Another such solar system might also have been mentioned by name; but more riddles need to be solved before this possibility could be considered to be a certainty, as the mention of the other solar system can already be considered to be a certainty. This is the situation because the message has some aspects of a hologram in that every part contains the whole; but not necessarily in sufficient resolution that the fine details can be clearly seen in merely one part.

However that might prove to be, it seems to me that I am in danger of incurring the wrath of a forum administrator for having strayed from a short introduction into a full-blown thread which might have been better located in some other portion of the forum. But even if that's true, I do not now know how best to transition from this prolonged introduction into a thread (or threads) which is (are) located someplace else. So suggestions to that end are also welcome.

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thisgoodriddle, maybe you can tell us a little about what areas of this research attract you?

At the moment, most of our members seem to be concentrating on Mars photographs, but there are occasional posts about the Moon and other bodies, particularly when there is new information released in the media.

Have you found any images which are particularly interesting? If so, it would be useful to the forum if you would post these and we can examine that area together to extract whatever is there.

Looking forward to your posts.

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Hello Chandre:

Thanks for your comments and question, to wit, can information be free of intention? Probably not, given that the entire collection of virtual realities within virtual realities, ad infinitum, can be said to be imagined by the ultimate originator (UO) for a purpose, that is, the UO has an intention for everything that he imagines, including information. However, it might be legitimate to say that the information itself, not being an entity, has no intention of its own, only that of the UO and whoever mentions the information (or mis-information, as the case might be), yes??

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Welcome thisgoodriddle,

You certainly have posed a good riddle to us.

By definition of 'cognitive dissonance' anything that was not absolutely the norm or mainstream would create a 'ripple' in the matrix that is our collctive sub-conscious. I am not sure that disruptive would be the correct word, more like an intellectual tickle.

You certainly have stated some interesting points in your introduction and I look forward to hearing more about your experiences and ideas. There are a few members who are not that active at present that may enjoy a hearty discussion on this subject.

My question to you, can information truly be said to be free of intent ?

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Disruptive?
Hm. Well, intention can be a factor in whether or not a person is disruptive; but if information can be said to be free of intention, then any and all new information is automatically disruptive to society because, to be new, it must be contrary to the existing world-view of society, yes?

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Welcome thisgoodriddle. Your introduction of yourself is interesting, although I am not sure how much philosophical discussion you will get on these matters here, as we are generally focused at the moment on trying to show how there may be other life which exists in our galaxy. Most often this is through the use of photographic documentation provided by the various space agencies. Additionally, there is a section which seeks to promote all this through the work of JPS.

I do not think anyone here would regard themselves as being disruptive to society, mainly because society encompasses such a wide range of views that most people in our society have views which fall into a middle band. Having posted on this forum for a while now, I feel (as far as I can tell) that there is no-one who would be likely to be disruptive unless your view of disruption means that it is against what the authorities would have us believe. The whole basis for the Constitution, as I understand it, is to promote freedom and liberty (within reason, of course) and so any excessive control by the authorities would go against those principles, don't you think?

I am sure that I speak for all of us in welcoming you to the forum and look forward to you sharing your anomalous evidence and finds so that they may be discussed and added to by other members.

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Hello Everybody:)

Thanks for providing this forum and for participating in it.

As someone mentioned in the introduction to this forum, each of us arrived here after spending time to investigate several topics. Although all of us have presumably investigated the work of J. P. Skipper (JPS) to some extent, we may or may not have another particular topic in common. In my case, another of the major topics in my life has been, and continues to be, the topic of the universe: what is it and how does it function, and what is its purpose, if any? My present understanding is that the universe is a virtual reality, and that it is imagined by an entity who has been named several times and therefore several ways. One of the ways has been "most high God" which label implies that there are other "gods" who are not "most high".

However that might prove to be, it remains that I realized that if this were in fact a virtual reality, then it was possible that the ultimate originator of it had provided a message to us via one of its proxies, one of its sock puppets. So I began a search of the so-called "sacred scriptures" to see if I could find such a message. It eventually seemed to me that I had found such a message and I therefore began to publish it, first in print and then on the internet. The reactions of people to this discovery have been either similar or identical to the reactions reported by JPS to his discoveries. So I began to wonder why two apparently dissimilar discoveries would be reacted to in what is essentially the same way? One possibility is called "cognitive dissonance" which can be defined to mean, "I never heard tell of such a notion in all of my born days." Cognitive dissonance has a survival value which is that it provides a world-view which is sufficiently stable for society to exist. That is to say that cognitive dissonance allows people to largely agree and therefore cooperate for prolonged periods of time. To this extent, all new information can therefore be said to be disruptive to society, that is, new information is, in one sense, a threat to life. So I choose to share thoughts in this forum because the members of this forum have demonstrated that they have been able to accept new information into their world-view. Unfortuantely, I do not now have the time to participate in this forum (or any other) to the full extent that I would like to. So please pardon me that I am perpetually tardy to reply, if at all. Thank you all for being kind to me in this or any other way.

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