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Not a chance unless I can develop a line in psychic programs or psychic computers!

Just look up AS15-M-1556_MED.png - it is about 12Mb apollo 15 hassleblad I think maybe 70mm.
this is the one I got it from anyway.
http://www.lpi.usra.edu/resources/apollo/catalog/metric/revolution/?AS15R35



Maybe this will give you an idea of what I mean:

 

http://stackoverflow.com/questions/597477/how-can-i-programmatically-obtain-an-images-real-url-path

 

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Not a chance unless I can develop a line in psychic programs or psychic computers!

Just look up AS15-M-1556_MED.png - it is about 12Mb apollo 15 hassleblad I think maybe 70mm.
this is the one I got it from anyway.
http://www.lpi.usra.edu/resources/apollo/catalog/metric/revolution/?AS15R35

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I don't know the true url of:

http://www.activeboard.com/download.spark?ID=759623&aBID=47797

so your program tells me "Must be .jpg .gif or .png", though it's a jpg image.

Can your program work out the true url so you don"t have to waste time trying to find it by other less orthodox means?

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The program is up there, so have a go and let me know any problems.

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gmamtoo could you reveal shadows from this image? just the left side? Thx

 

/download.spark?ID=759623&aBID=47797

 

 

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Thanks to gmantoo we were able to independently deobsfuscate SOME OF the  Apollo's 15 imageS.

GM I took your untampered shadowed image and made some shadow enhancing of my own. This is the result, and as you see there is a big whastsit behind ....

 

new_6666.jpg

gmantoo's shadow revealed

 

 

 

 

Apolo 15 Monuments.jpg

So the Myth that the Apollo 15 photographs are real and they have not been tampered to exclude artificial structures and the true depth of the Moon's terrain is completely and absolutely BUSTED!

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Now I guess your program works by averaging pixels from a bigger sample. hhmmm

The second image, you forgot you already cleaned up this one and it showed what we expected. The second image's shadow is superbly deobfuscated BTW aww

 

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Yes, it did.

However - if you read the blurb at the top of the web page, it says this.
Sometimes there is no detail in the black shadows and and it remains black. and this is the problem with your image which I tried and is below.

old_6666.jpg

I also tried the original AS15-M-1556 as I had downloaded it and it produced this which is much better. Although, it still does not show what you want it to show unfortunately. smile.gif




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how big?

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I tried to see what was in the shadow of this image and it really enhanced the shadow. It came out petrol black no

http://lh6.ggpht.com/_HU_WSRtEVMw/TAWCfnaGzvI/AAAAAAAABCw/7bYRgMVfShk/6666666666666666.jpg

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When images are big ...Fatal error: Allowed memory size of 67108864 bytes exhausted (tried to allocate 14880001 bytes) in /home/weifan/public_html/pelicanbill/subdomains/mars/httpdocs/decode_nasamars_shadow.php on line 215

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I have added the program to the menu - it is best used with subjects that are closer to the rover as the shadow areas tend to be larger. Feedback welcome.

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Ya, the square is visible even without enhancement, but that really makes it stick out.

Nice work....both of ya

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No Chrispin It came out like that and I did not want to mess with it, completing it with my own ideas, it probably is => square with no info at all ... I would think.

 

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Whoah! Can you confirm whether or not that the white square in one of those craters is image tampering?

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Hi gogoog you always in time! I took a single quadrant from the whole scene you referred us to.


I have good news and bad news for everyone.


Good News


I have found the moonies we were looking for. They dwell inside fake craters, and I am showing you visual evidence and how they look. (well you will have to zoom in for yourself).  (ok maybe different colors, different shades but you get the picture)aww



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Until an independent source can reach the same conclusion, starting from the original image, nobody will believe it. no

Here

The Moonies.jpg

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fruitnut1 пишет:

 

 

Можете ли вы применить алгоритм этой луны рис? Я желаю, чтобы просмотреть результаты smile

 

 



Here possibility of this picture has more?

AS15 -M- 1554



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Ya....what the yeck.....Post it!




Ok here is what happened,

GM's algorithm for seeing through shadows is more accurate than mine. So what I did was merge his results with mine. Now guys see if you can see what we saw confuse

18072010_lowlights_AS15-M-1556 post.jpg

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Ya....what the yeck.....Post it!

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Go ahead pal, don't be scared ... go ahead ...aww

 

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OK, well I will say what I see in the top shadow. I see a face looking down towards the bottom right. The bare head has a ridge along it. nose touching ground. deep-set eye/heavy eyebrows. Could be anything though.

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I think this process is best used for rover images rather than satellite images, but we may be able to use it for both. We'll see.

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Not only the shadow under the rock, all shadows including the dark deep space lol ... When you are done with it I will  run my algorithm and compare ... If we have similar results that will be a big step ... for man lol

 

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I will run it on the moon pic and I will probably send you a link to the full picture after I have done it, rather than posting another large pic on this thread.

So what could the shape under the shadow on the rock be then?

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Great, now we are moving in the same direction .... By what you posted I think its more an enhancement than an misinterpretation ...

 

Could you apply your algorithm to this moon pic? I am anxious to see your results smile

 

AS15-M-1556.jpg



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For sure dude....

Are u writing this stuff .....what language?confuse

If this is an app you made....awesome.biggrin
If this is not an app you made....still awesome.biggrin



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This is a new program that I am developing which seems to be working out quite well.

However, there ARE limitations. The image is altered by taking the value of the greyscale pixel and multiplying it - so do not rely on it or post it as 'gospel'. It is only to show what can be extracted from the pixel colours that are there and making them more visible by widening the gap between one grey and the next.

As with all image manipulation, this could potentially show things which are not there but having said that, it may also show things which are there but have been covered over or reduced in brightness.

I decided to use this example as my test.
original.jpg
Mainly because the part of the 'rock' nearest to us is so black, I thought it would be fun to see if I could programmatically reveal something extra.

So, this is what I found. You have to interpret this yourself otherwise I will be placing ideas into your head and you will 'see' something which may not be there. I think you will agree, there is potential for experimentation here.

result.jpg



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