Alien Anomalies

Hey watcher, lol, Not sure entirely what you mean, though good input on the exif data format.

This makes clear that at least we can reach concensus on ESA photoshopping their images. This is a good start, because if everybody agrees that ESA is photoshopping images, everybody will agree that trying to find traces of "hidden pixels" in the photographs they publish, is a scientific method as valid as any other, and will give assurance to investigators to break the barrier and start using image editing programs in trust and obtain results that several people, including myself have found before, but because of some kind of taboo it is forbidden to use, if we want to find results that are accepted by others and let us reach concensus.

The question of ego, I think you are missing something here, I have been trying to share for several weeks the knowledge I have gotten by experimenting on this field (as well as you do, for example what you did with Hale crater, is an independant confirmation of what I have found in the area, not to mention several other findings of yours), so if I was so egotistical as you are perceiving I would not deign even share this knowledge with people interested in the same subjects.

We are not perfect and sometimes you get bored by the reaction of the public to things that are already evident to you, but with a little understanding from the parts, everything can be worked out.

I think your work is great but just as mine, it's still missing to prompt people to say Hey guys this man is showing us something valuable.

So that's what I think.

Thanks friend,

-- Frutty

Chandre wrote:

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Frutty, it was between this time and about 1920 that the mindset changed. I think the Victorians must have been amazing and open-minded and innovative when you look at how much was done and discovered in that era, unfortunately it all change in the early 1900's and a 'dark age' seems to have descended. Sciaparelli seems to have been a very intelligent and lucid man that contributed much to the sciences at the time, I find it hard to believe that he hallucinated or imagined what he saw on Mars, remember this was done when Mars was the closest it had been to Earth in 'modern' times and in those days there was less pollution etc so it must have been clear to him when he made the maps. What I cannot understand is why its different now, just over 120 years later. Did they drain the 'seas' using canals and what we now call the 'tubes' and find a way to store the water underground, did it evaporate... so many questions, all speculations as we cannot know the true answers with the data we have at hand.

Frutty, remember, what you see and perceive is different from what I may see and perceive, or thewatcher or OSD or ARP2 or any other member.

Our perceptions are in many ways like rose-tinted glasses, influenced by our education and life experiences. In many cases we will project our personal experience onto something. This makes it hard to reach a consensus on the work we post here as something I see as clearly as day may not be at all visible to you. 

Everything we post here is speculation....its unfortunate but its a fact ! There is not one image on the Forum that everyone will point at and agree, 'thats the one' the smoking gun

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Remember Mr Skipper showed in his book there are considerable amounts of water in big lakes. It would not surprise me if the rest is hidden behind layers of tampering.

I have shown ESA images to be photoshopped. It can be done by anyone. Just go to their site. Download an image to your computer. See the EXIF (Exchangeable image file format) data; it shows it was retouched with photoshop, it displays the adobe phjotoshop version and also the date the tampering was made. I am posting an example here .

So if everybody does the homework it can be proven that ESA is using photoshop to retouch their images.

But if we show ourselves apathetic to contributions from the other members, not commenting, not asking, not even telling why they agree or not, and in general crossing our arms, we are not ever gonna reach  concensus that's for sure.

To show the images at ESA are photoshopped and see the exif info you can download a free program (for personal use) called wildbit Viewer. It's awesome as it let's you zoom in almost to the top additional to other features. This is an example of what I found in the cydonia region on esa at this address http://www.esa.int/images/305-230906-3253-6-co1-Cydonia_L.jpg. (The images of NASA don't include any exif info addtional to its size)

I hope you realize what I mean if we seek the truth we should find it together and look for consensus otherwise we are going nowhere, and I guess I am wasting my time here 

Frutty

Chandre I was looking in detail at Schiaparelli' Map and there are regins called mares = "seas" and oceans.

Notice from German

Wasser = Water

Untiefen = Shoalds

In what moment in time They erased the then commonly accepted belief that there was water on Mars? In what exact date we lost our way?

Are you aware that Percival Lowell was influenced by the works of Giovanni Virginio Schiaparelli http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Giovanni_Schiaparelli This was the map produced by Schiaparelli in 1877.



Now we are speculating, I wonder if there is a link between these 'channels/canals/lines' and Class A (very large) worm activity ? That may explain the differences in the observations and the changing landscapes over time...

Google claims that similar lines on Earth maps are a result of the scanning process by the surface boats, wonder how they will explain away the lines in these images as well as what was observed via telescope 100 odd years ago...

fruitnut1 wrote:

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SOrry about all those typos 

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BTW GM if you inspect the original this outtake shows almost blanked out. 

qmantoo wrote:

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The straight lines always confuse me. What purpose would they serve - particularly since they must be very big on the ground and I do not think they all go from A to B, so I dont think they are transport roads etc..

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GM, I don;t have the slightest idea because it's the first time I found something like this. Like I told you it popped up after applying filters. At first I thought it was product of the untampering because how come can thisese line traverse diferent typpe ot terrain without suffering deformation? But inspecting very close I thought there wasz more to it than what outr logic woud mandate so I decided to post it to see what you guys might coe up with.

It should be the product of a very advanced technology, no doubt about it (well there are always doubts but minimal). Masr is a pandora box. 

Frutty