I once read an interesting tidbit in the Alien Abduction discussions, gmantoo. The writer claimed that aliens were using human surrogates for hybrid/alien embroyos for a 3 month period as we somehow embued a 'spirit' into the embroyo which they could not do. Interesting, in light of what you are discussing. Sadly, I have no clue who said it...
Yes, energy can be created in many different ways, and yes, aliens have more ideas about how to create this than we do - simply because their technology is more advanced. However, this is not the kind energy I am talking about.
It is challenging to explain because I am taking this perspective from a larger viewpoint and not just a physics volts and amps viewpoint. All this assumes that there is more to us as individuals than we can see in the 3-dimensional earthly mirror.
What should happen is that every plant/animal/insect etc should have a natural connection to the universal pool of energy that created it in the first place. When this is working correctly, it should be constantly renewed by this connection and provides our 'life energy'.
What has happened is that some races have pushed the boundaries of technology past the point where that connection has been permanently cut and so they do not have this natural ebb and flow of energy back to the universal pool. This being cut off means that they must eventually go back to the pool as space dust or particles - without retaining their memories of the paths they have taken since their creation.
Those who still have this connection, and many of us humans do still have this potential, will retain these memories and remember their journey out and back to creation source point.
If this is not important to us, then we do not need to be bothered, but if we still want to retain these memories, we have to make the conscious decision and effort not to be pulled into the big energy pot which these other races are trying to create so that they can exist a little bit longer.
I only have one issue with all that. The whole energy part doesn't sit well with me because energy is available in many forms. There are a multitude of ways to tap into known energy sources. And an advanced alien civilization should have no problems with encountering new forms of energy and harnessing it as well.
As far as the whole 2012 thing...If anything, I think the government will use this to scare the masses into some other form of deeper control, weather it be taking away civil liberties, or imposing some form of marshal law.
But the whole Alien agenda thing...Strongly disagree
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It is a topic which may have a bearing on disclosure and the 2012 period is fast approaching, so how do you see aliens having anything to do with 2012?
There appear to be a few on this forum who claim they know all about aliens already, so I do not think that a discussion about aliens and what they have to do with 2012, would be out of place. If the moderators feel that it is not appropriate, please delete this or move it to a different place.
Since I have my own ideas about this, let me start and then everyone else can chip in with their ideas/beliefs/criticisms/whatever.
It seems to me as if aliens and 2012 are intimately tied up together and to separate the two would be like having half the picture and not telling the whole story.
Other planets in our solar system to a lesser extent, but the Earth in particular, is so interesting to other races because it of its unique position in the universe which involves portals and passages to other planets far out in the cosmos. These are important to other races because of the choices these other races have made in their past. They need to have a supply of energy to run their worlds as they cannot tap into the cosmic energy any longer to renew their own life energies. (we humans can still do this on a limited scale, although we are losing this ability fast)
The larger alien agenda has something to do with 2012 time frame because there is a cosmic alignment which uniquely gives the right conditions to allow them to pull our world into their own and to use Earth and her people as a source of energy they need to keep going. The Earth herself has not managed to avoid being pulled into this space so she is going there anyway. Her level of connectedness has been eroded so much that she can no longer tap into the cosmic energy pool and renew herself, but some of the people on planet are still able to make a conscious choice whether to go with the Earth and those alien races, or whether to continue to tap into that cosmic energy. If we make no choice, we will go with the Earth and where she is going, if we make a choice not to go to that place, then - as long as we have the right amount of energy necessary to combat the pull into that space - we will be able to avoid it.
I believe the Mayans probably knew all about this alignment and could not calculate their calendar because the future past 2012 was uncertain at that time and they realised that much of it depended on choices we would make between then and now.
It really is not a religious issue at all, not about heaven or hell, not about following one man as the son of God, or any other religion, book, or creed. Over the many many years this background alien agenda has been going, most of these teachings have all been distorted and so there is only a little of their original truth left in them. The choice we have to make now, is about continuing to have individual consciousness and free will, or whether we become one of a collective such as our bees, ants, or the Borg in Startrek.
Obviously, the aliens want as much energy as they can get, so the more humans who go to make up their energy resource, the better. Their smaller agenda is to keep us in the dark long enough and avoid us making this conscious choice to get out now before the stadium gates close at the end 2012. Any alien on planet is very likely working towards this end, and so they are unlikely to tell those with whom they are in contact, that they want our bodies for energy to keep their world going.
Aliens who do not want this to happen have no reason to be here. They have their own life to live. They do make contact and help on an individual level and they recognise that we are all equal, and all have as much power, knowledge, and ability as they themselves do. They do not violate our rights of free will and individual choice.
Our only problem is we have forgotten who we really are, our multidimensional anatomy is unknown to us through years and generations of poor choices and genetic mutations orchestrated through manipulation by aliens who do not have our best interests at heart. The regaining of this knowledge was the original truth behind all religious teachings, but over the years it has been revised, removed, and re-worded so that we do not achieve our potential escape from the clutches of this dark alien agenda. It is not a battle between good and evil, God and the Devil, but a battle of wills played out by many different races. All these races have thier own reasons for doing what they do, and to them, their reasons are perfectly reasonable and moral. What one considers good, the other considers evil and via-versa.
This battle for the Earth and her people has been going on for a long long time and has not just developed over the last 2000 years or so. Alien races have had a long time to plan this and have been aware of the critical importance of 2012 when the gates open and close for one last chance to capture us and pull us into their universe.
The world will not end in 2012 as suggested by some, but the individual's choice of which direction they go, will end.
After this critical cosmic alignment of gates and portals which happens at the end of 2012, there will be no more chances to choose to get out. The deal will have been done, and the dice will have been cast.