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More oil slicks found new Deepwater Horizon site images and video

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Put this into google and see how many people have been killed, Jailed or are missing following the BP Gulf Oil Spill

"Dead / Jailed /Missing Scientists & Individuals Affiliated With The BP Oil Disaster"

Big companies have hit squads too, not just governments.

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Excellent website here  

Many of the links are to diseased fish stories and oil lumps still being washed up on beaches. Now it seems that the media are reporting the aftermath of the disaster.

Freedom of Information Act release details on BP trying to cover up the whole issue



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http://www.aolnews.com/2011/04/08/oil-from-bp-spill-found-on-dead-dolphins-in-gulf-of-mexico/

 

"Oil From BP Spill Found on Dead Dolphins in Gulf of Mexico"

Apr 8, 2011 – 7:58 PM



 

 

Mara Gay Contributor

"Researchers have traced oil found on dead dolphins in the Gulf of Mexico to the BP Deepwater Horizon spill but say it's not yet clear whether the oil caused their deaths.

Hundreds of bottlenose dolphins have washed up dead in the Gulf in the past year, an unexplained rise in deaths that has scientists concerned. Oil on six of the dolphins has been directly linked to BP's blown-out well, but researchers say it's too soon to conclude whether or not the oil was responsible or if their demise was caused by something entirely unrelated, the National Oceanic and Atmospheric Administration said.

Institute for Marine Mammal Studies veterinary technician Wendy Hatchett lifts a dead bottlenose dolphin that was found on Ono Island, Ala., and brought for examination to Gulfport, Miss., Tuesday, Feb. 22, 2011.

Patrick Semansky, AP

Veterinary technician Wendy Hatchett lifts a dead bottlenose dolphin that was found on Ono Island, Ala., and brought for examination to the Institute for Marine Mammal Studies in Gulfport, Miss., on Feb. 22.

"Some of these stranded dolphins have come in with some type of suspected oil, ... but it doesn't mean that it's an acute cause of death," NOAA spokeswoman Karrie Carnes told AOL News today by phone.

According to NOAA data, 293 dolphins have washed up dead in the Gulf of Mexico since the April 20 spill, a major increase compared with an average of 74 dolphins per year in the previous decade. But researchers note that the spike in deaths actually began in February 2010, two months before the BP explosion. Most of the dead dolphins are babies or even preterm.

"The northern Gulf of Mexico is no stranger to dolphin mortality deaths," said Blair Mase, a regional marine mammal stranding coordinator for NOAA, referring to deaths researchers consider unexplained. "Since 1990 we've had 11 dolphin mortality events in the Gulf, so it does occur with regularity. What's so unusual about this case is that we've seen a sustained increase in dolphin mortalities since February 2010. So we're particularly concerned."

Researchers say finding out what's causing the increase in deaths will take months, and ultimately more than one factor may be to blame. The marine mammals could have been killed by naturally occurring algae blooms, for example, or an infectious disease.

 

Still, if scientists find conclusive evidence that oil from last year's Deepwater Horizon spill played a role in the mammals' deaths, it could mean more penalties for oil giant BP.

BP did not immediately respond to a request for comment today from AOL News.

An unusually high number of sea turtles have washed up dead in the Gulf of Mexico as well. While the deaths are so far unexplained, no oil was found on their bodies, and scientists believe they may have been accidentally drowned in fishing gear, suffocated by algae blooms, or killed by speedboats or other watercraft. Twenty-five of them are the endangered Kemp's ridley turtle.

Officials say they are still investigating. "  "Who ?"

 ".....is still investigating and investigating and investigating......."

WE do not forget.



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You can see how everyone is moving in to start the damage limitation exercise. Lots of possibilities are thrown out there for people to hook onto and which can be used in the future to explain away the unknown substance.

I wonder if we will get an independent analysis report published or whether we will just get the official response. Trouble is - it involves money to get the independent analysis and often people are unwilling to pay for it out of their own pocket. In that case we just have to accept the official report.

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http://www.nola.com/news/gulf-oil-spill/index.ssf/2011/03/coast_guard_investigating_shee.html#incart_mce

Coast Guard investigating sheen in Gulf of Mexico

Published: Sunday, March 20, 2011, 4:16 PM    

The U.S. Coast Guard says there is some sort of substance in the water in the Gulf of Mexico, and officials are collecting samples to determine what it is.

Coast Guard spokeswoman Casey Ranel says the agency sent out a cutter Sunday morning to collect samples of the substance, which was spotted off the coast of Louisiana. She says officials are still awaiting the results of testing. Officials also were working to determine how big of an area the substance covered.

The Coast Guard had gotten reports of an oil sheen, but officials have not confirmed the substance is oil.

Ranel says dredging had been going on not far away at the mouth of the Mississippi River, and it's possible the substance is silt dredged from the bottom.

http://www.nola.com/news/gulf-oil-spill/index.ssf/2011/03/source_of_30-mile_oil_spill_in.html#incart_mce

Source of 30-mile oil spill in Gulf puzzles officials

Published: Monday, March 21, 2011, 11:00 PM

Emulsified oil, oil mousse and tar balls from an unknown source were washing up on beaches from Grand Isle to West Timbalier Island along the Gulf of Mexico, a stretch of about 30 miles, and it was still heading west Monday afternoon, a Louisiana official said. The state is testing the material to see if it matches oil from last April's BP Deepwater Horizon disaster.

Oil spill response workers under the direction of the U.S. Coast Guard and state officials were scrambling to block more of the material from coming ashore. ES&H Corp. has been hired to oversee the cleanup.

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"We are working with our state and local partners to mitigate any further environmental impact while continuing to facilitate the safe movement of marine traffic to the fullest extent possible," Capt. Jonathan Burton, the federal on-scene coordinator for the response, said in a news release late Monday.

"To avoid delays in resource availability and delivery, we have taken a forward leaning approach and authorized ES&H to procure whatever additional boom and resources they need," Burton said.

The news release said that when all areas where the material has washed ashore are combined, about a half-mile of shoreline was affected.

Workers have deployed about 10,000 feet of containment and sorbent boom to prevent damage to environmentally sensitive areas; two MARKO skimmers are being moved to the area and another two are available; and two barge boats and two drum skimmers are at the scene.

The state has requested more boom, sorbents, skimmers and other equipment from the Coast Guard, said Garret Graves, coastal adviser to Gov. Bobby Jindal.

"Currently, boom is deployed in the Elmers/Caminada area and we're looking at one gap closure" in that area, Graves said. "We have multiple independent tests under way to determine the source."

On Sunday, Jefferson Parish Councilman Chris Roberts reported that a Coast Guard official had said the oil might be from a project to plug and abandon a well just offshore of Grand Isle. But Coast Guard officials said they're still waiting for tests of material collected in that area to determine where it came from.

A Coast Guard news release said a second, much larger area of sheen south of Grand Isle in the Gulf of Mexico contained small amounts of oil constituents mixed with sediment that seemed to be coming from the Mississippi River. The Coast Guard Cutter Pompano was deployed and gathered samples, which contained only trace amounts of petroleum hydrocarbons, oil and grease.

The samples were tested against state Department of Enviromental Quality standards, which call for no more than 65 parts per million of hydrocarbons and just under 10,000 ppm of oil and grease. One sample contained 8 ppm of total petroleum hydrocarbons and 86 ppm of oil and grease. A second contained 5 ppm of total hydrocarboms and 15 ppm of oil and grease.

"At this point, the dark substance is believed to be caused by a tremendous amount of sediment being carried down the Mississippi River due to high water, possibly further agitated by dredging operations," the Coast Guard release said.

A spokesman for the Army Corps of Engineers, however, said none of the three dredges operating near the mouth of the Mississippi River has reported any oil in the material they're removing from the river bottom to keep the channel deep enough for ocean-going ships.

The Mississippi River had risen to 12.5 feet in New Orleans on Monday, up from only 3 feet above sea level three weeks ago, an indicator that the river contains a heavy load of sediment from upstream.

Betty Doud, a Grand Isle resident who volunteers with the Louisiana Bucket Brigade, said she monitored the oil moving along Grand Isle on Sunday.

"I was out there from 9 a.m. to 5 p.m. yesterday and the stuff came in in waves onto the island and through Caminada Pass," she said. "There were these orange, nasty waves and black oil mixed with it. The oil was in the rocks along the pass."

Doud collected a sample of the material for Jefferson Parish President John Young, who was inspecting the area, and Young told her it would be tested at a laboratory in Lafayette. Doud has sent other samples to the Bucket Brigade, which will have them tested independently to determine if the oil matches that released last year from the BP Deepwater Horizon disaster.

The tests also will determine whether the oil contains cancer-causing oil constituents, or Corexit, the dispersant used last year to break up oil from the BP well.



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Scientist finds Gulf bottom still oily, dead


http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/us_sci_oil_spill_lingers

Oil spill lingers on at the bottom of the sea and has killed off all the ocean life.

a good blog about it all
http://oilspillsolutionsnow.org/?page_id=111

 

More interesting stuff from Feb 2011
http://theintelhub.com/category/gulfoilspill/

 



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http://www.tribtoday.com/page/content.detail/id/554102/910th-Airlift-Wing-receives-Air-Force-award.html?nav=5021

910th Airlift Wing receives Air Force award

March 6, 2011 - By JOE GORMAN and BOB COUPLAND Tribune Chronicle

VIENNA - The 910th Airlift Wing in Vienna is being honored among the Air Force's elite for its help with cleanup  ( ? ) after last year's Gulf oil spill, the Air Force Reserve Command announced Friday.

The 910th is being honored with the ''Air Force Outstanding Unit Award'' recognizing the airlift wing for outstanding achievement from April 28 to June 4, 2010, when it sent two specially equipped C-130H aircraft and the associated personnel and support crew to Stennis International Airport in Mississippi to aid in the Deepwater Horizon oil spill cleanup efforts.

While they were deployed to the Gulf Coast, the aircrews flew 92 sorties and sprayed 30,000 acres with nearly 149,000 gallons of dispersant ( COREXITE ).

Maj. Brent Davis, head of public relations at the base, said the last time the unit received the award was 13 years ago. Davis said the award typically is given for service over a period of time. He said it is an honor to win it for a specific mission.

''It's something that just doesn't happen,'' Davis said.

Davis said more than 80 reservists ( ! ) made the trip during the mission, but lots more helped out, from the people who loaded the planes at the airbase in Vienna to those in the base's financial section who handled the paperwork concerning pay, and even private contractors who lent their expertise, as well.

''There's a lot of behind the scenes stuff,'' Davis said. ( That`s an underestatement. )

Col. Fritz Linsenmeyer, commander of the 910th Airlift Wing, said the Deepwater Horizon mission was the first time the Department of Defense used the oil dispersing capability of the 910th. He said the 910th Airlift Wing is the Department of Defense's only fixed-wing aerial spray capable unit.

''Our airmen have been training for this type of response and we are pleased to have been able to utilize their skills and capabilities to help make a difference,'' Linsenmeyer said.

He said he was proud of the Wing receiving the award as this was a team effort. ''All our reserve, civilian, and contractor personnel actively contributed to this exceptional achievement,'' Linsenmeyer said.

Davis said the award shows just how much dedication the reservists ( ! ) put into their jobs.

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Oil Spill Update starring  Samantha Joye, Gulf Oil Blog - UGA Department of Marine Sciences . Interesting facts and fascinating images at http://gulfblog.uga.edu/

http://news.sciencemag.org/sciencenow/2011/02/live-aaas---samantha-joye-on-bp-.html
11:01
Erik Stokstad: 
Hi, I'm Erik Stokstad, a reporter with Science Magazine. I'm here with Mandy Joye, a microbial geochemist at the University of Georgia.
Monday February 21, 2011 11:01 Erik Stokstad
11:02
Erik Stokstad: 
We'll be talking about Mandy's research on the Gulf of Mexico oil spill and looking forward to discussing your questions.
Monday February 21, 2011 11:02 Erik Stokstad
11:03
Erik Stokstad: 
Mandy, we here about the term "oil spill" but your and other researcher found a lot of other kinds of hydrocarbons, including methane.
Monday February 21, 2011 11:03 Erik Stokstad
11:03
Erik Stokstad: 
You just had a paper come out last week in Nature Geoscience quantifying the methane. What did you find?
Monday February 21, 2011 11:03 Erik Stokstad
11:05
Mandy Joye: 
The BP Blowout was not an oil spill, it was a hydrocarbon discharge. The discharge contained 40% gaseous hydrocarbons like methane. We converted this gaseous discharge to "barrel of oil equivalent" units and found that the gas component accounted for an additional 1.5 to 3 million barrel of oil equivalents discharged. This increases the size of the discharge by a significant margin, by 30 to 50%.
Monday February 21, 2011 11:05 Mandy Joye
11:06
Erik Stokstad: 
Wow, that sounds like a lot. How does these gaseous hydrocarbons behave differently than the oil. Did (or do) they pose a different kind of threat to marine life?
Monday February 21, 2011 11:06 Erik Stokstad
11:09
Mandy Joye: 
At the depth and temperature of the discharge, gaseous hydrocarbon form ice-like crystals, methane hydrate, and the hydrate contains some oil. These gases were initially trapped in deep undersea plumes but ultimately, some of the gas may have reached the atmosphere. They impact the environment because microbial consumption of gases consumes oxygen, which could in some places impact marine life.
Monday February 21, 2011 11:09 Mandy Joye
11:10
Erik Stokstad: 
So oil on the surface is a problem for fish and birds, but methane not really?
Monday February 21, 2011 11:10 Erik Stokstad
11:10
Mandy Joye: 
Yes, that's correct
Monday February 21, 2011 11:10 Mandy Joye
11:12
Erik Stokstad: 
Hang on, we're about to get a reader question posted.
Monday February 21, 2011 11:12 Erik Stokstad
11:13
Erik Stokstad: 
Here's a question from Elise DuFour with The Sylvia Earle Alliance:

I heard there are micro-organisms that live from the oil that had been spilled "[...]eating it". Is this just make-believe that such a microbe exists or are they real? and if they are real: 1. do they eat only certain substances of the oil? 2. how many of those organisms are needed for such a huge spill? or rather, do they have a big apatite? 3. What goes in, has to come out. What is left of the oil once the micro-organism has "digested" it?
Monday February 21, 2011 11:13 Erik Stokstad
11:14
Erik Stokstad: 
Lots more good questions queued up, too.
Monday February 21, 2011 11:14 Erik Stokstad
11:17
Mandy Joye: 
While there are microorganisms that thrive in oil reservoirs, these organisms thrive at high temperature and high pressure and would not do so well in cold seawater (even surface seawater would be cold for them). Instead, the microorganisms that live naturally in the seawater have to gear up their activity to consume the oil. Most of these organisms are hungry a lot of the time because natural seepage is variable in time and space. The growth of these organisms is limited by nutrients, ultimately, and often they only partially digest the oil. They produce CO2 and intermediate metabolites (which is oil that is not so easy to detect). The biggest point here is that nutrient availability -- just as for plants -- probably limits how much and how fast the oil released will be consumed by microbial processes.
Monday February 21, 2011 11:17 Mandy Joye
11:18
[Comment From Steve Steve : ] 
Methane has been the "hidden" impact of the spill. Rarely, if ever has it been mentioned in media reports. Is there any way to measure the long term impact of the methane released into the Gulf?
Monday February 21, 2011 11:18 Steve
11:21
Mandy Joye: 
Steve-I agree that methane has received nearly enough attention. We can measure it's long term impact because it has a unique signature--the Macondo methane isotopically unique compared to methane from other nearby reservoirs and for the Gulf in general: it has a 12C to 13C ratio of about -60‰. The oil is -27‰. So we can track methane into the microorganisms that consume -- and then into the organisms that consume those microbes -- by monitoring the carbon isotope composition. These measurements take some time but we are doing this to track the path of methane through the system.
Monday February 21, 2011 11:21 Mandy Joye
11:23
[Comment From Reed Young Reed Young : ] 
"This increases the size of the discharge by a significant margin, by 30 to 50%." Or, are they just going along with BP's numbers?
Monday February 21, 2011 11:23 Reed Young
11:24
Mandy Joye: 
Reed-At present, the "Oil Budget" only includes oil, not methane. In my opinion, this should be a "Hydrocarbon budget" and methane should be included. Methane and other low molecular weight gases were clearly a significant part of the discharge so they should be included in the hydrocarbon accounting.
Monday February 21, 2011 11:24 Mandy Joye
11:25
Erik Stokstad: 
[Quick apology: I attributed a question incorrectly to Elise DuFour. It was asked by Danielle Futselaar. Sorry about that!]
Monday February 21, 2011 11:25 Erik Stokstad
11:25
[Comment From charlotte.vick@gmail.com charlotte.vick@gmail.com : ] 
Can you describe what you saw from Alvin?
Monday February 21, 2011 11:25 charlotte.vick@gmail.com
11:28
Erik Stokstad: 
Great question. Turning to the seafloor impacts...
Monday February 21, 2011 11:28 Erik Stokstad
11:29
Erik Stokstad: 
Mandy gave a lecture here at the AAAS meeting on Saturday and showed some striking images from her dives.
Monday February 21, 2011 11:29 Erik Stokstad
11:29
Mandy Joye: 
Charlotte-we did three ALVIN dives in early December. Looking out the window of ALVIN, at first, it did not seem to be so bad but as we got nearer to the bottom, I realized there were no infauna (worms and such) poking their heads out to greet us. Usually, there is a tremendous diversity of infaunal organisms on the bottom. Then, we began to see dead organisms like brittle stars. I noticed there were no holothurians (sea cucumbers) and these organisms are tremendously abundant at seeps. So, it was a grim view. We saw a few crabs but they did not look healthy and we saw oiled and dead corals. Overall, a very depressing sight but one that made me realize that we have to do a lot more mapping and visit the seafloor around the wellhead with submersibles and ROVs to truly understand which species have been impacts and to determine the area impact.
Monday February 21, 2011 11:29 Mandy Joye
11:30
Erik Stokstad: 
It must be hard to know the big picture. Are other researchers doing this too?
Monday February 21, 2011 11:30 Erik Stokstad
11:31
Mandy Joye: 
Charles Fisher and others involved in the NOAA deepwater NRDA work are sampling bottom to determine impacts. We are assisting them in any way we can (e.g. sharing dive footage).
Monday February 21, 2011 11:31 Mandy Joye
11:31
[Comment From Lyle Lyle : ] 
There are thousands of samples of water and sediment taken and analysed by the Response (NOAA, Coast Guard, USGS, USEPA) that contradict your statements. These analyses are available for review by anyone. Where is your analytical data?
Monday February 21, 2011 11:31 Lyle
11:34
Mandy Joye: 
Lyle--BP and NOAA are collaborating on the sediment sampling and BP sampled some of the same sites we sampled and confirmed our results (these data are in the OSAT report). We have sampled at different places and different times and have used different techniques. For example, the flocculent oil-containing layer we discovered would never be sampled with a box cover, it would literally be blown away by the pressure wave of the instrument. If the multiple corer is not lowered slow enough, the layer could be disrupted or destroyed. I only know how we sampled and we were using a multiple corer and approaching the bottom at a very slow speed so as not to disturb the sediment.
Monday February 21, 2011 11:34 Mandy Joye
11:35
Erik Stokstad: 
The flocculent layer is also called a "mousse" and can be seen on Mandy's blog.
Monday February 21, 2011 11:35 Erik Stokstad
11:35
Mandy Joye: 
When BP went back and re-sampled our sites, they did so using a similar approach and confirmed our findings.

Having said that, the distribution of oily residue on the bottom is almost certainly heterogenous but we have found these deposits at all of the sites where we have sample.
Monday February 21, 2011 11:35 Mandy Joye
11:36
[Comment From John Brown John Brown : ] 
Have you reviewed the OSAT December 2010 report findings and data concerning sediments? Although they may not exactly correspond to your observations, they seem to provide a different view of the sediment conditions using chemical analysis and fingerprinting. Can you comment on the apparent differences you have reported versus those reported for this extensive study?
Monday February 21, 2011 11:36 John Brown
11:36
Mandy Joye: 
Lyle-We are writing these papers up for publication so look for something in a few months. Fingerprintng the samples is a long process.
Monday February 21, 2011 11:36 Mandy Joye
11:36
Erik Stokstad: 
OSAT = Operational Science Advisory Team with NOAA and other agencies.
Monday February 21, 2011 11:36 Erik Stokstad
11:39
Mandy Joye: 
John-yes, I have read the OSAT report and it actually contains some of my data (the Oceanus cruise in Sept. 2010). As I replied to Lyle, the answer you get depends on where, when and how you sample. When sampling flocculent material, the devil is in the sampling details. But, heterogeneity could also come in to play. Bottom line is that though there is a lot of data we need more -- and every one needs to be sampling the same way so as to preserve this fragile layer.
Monday February 21, 2011 11:39 Mandy Joye
11:40
[Comment From mike paton mike paton : ] 
Mndy are there any other mechanisms that can help to destroy the oil like sunshine or the salt water?
Monday February 21, 2011 11:40 mike paton
11:40
[Comment From Fred DeVice Fred DeVice : ] 
What can be done to get oil off of the sea floor and if we can't what is the future health of the sea life?
Monday February 21, 2011 11:40 Fred DeVice
11:41
Mandy Joye: 
Mike/Fred --sunlight -- uv in particular -- photodegrades oil and breaks it down in to smaller components but in the deepwater that does not do much for us.
Monday February 21, 2011 11:41 Mandy Joye
11:42
Erik Stokstad: 
What CAN we do about the hydrocarbons on the seafloor?
Monday February 21, 2011 11:42 Erik Stokstad
11:42
Mandy Joye: 
The best hope for the oil on the bottom is that the microorganisms will eventually gear up and degrade it. But, at this point, they are degrading it very slowly and we are not sure why. Some component of the microbial community that degrades such complex carbon structures is "stuck" -- they could be limited by nutrients or something else. We are working hard to figure this out.
Monday February 21, 2011 11:42 Mandy Joye
11:43
[Comment From Guest Guest : ] 
I just want to say "Thank you" for your heroic efforts to research and report on your findings. Accurate information is so important to all of us in the gulf region and beyond.
Monday February 21, 2011 11:43 Guest
11:43
Erik Stokstad: 
Mandy, I wonder if your findings will be incorporated into the NRDA damage assessment?
Monday February 21, 2011 11:43 Erik Stokstad
11:44
Mandy Joye: 
Thank you--I am always astonished by the number of people who are following what we are doing and who send kind, encouraging words our way. It means a lot to me and those in my group who are working so hard to understand what is going on in these samples.
Monday February 21, 2011 11:44 Mandy Joye
11:44
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Mandy Joye: 
Erik--yes, I would hope that our results are somehow incorporated into the NRDA assessment but I am not quite sure how that wil work.
Monday February 21, 2011 11:44 Mandy Joye
11:45
[Comment From Janelle Janelle : ] 
Have you personally, experienced any symptoms from being exposed to the toxins?
Monday February 21, 2011 11:45 Janelle
11:46
Mandy Joye: 
Janelle--yes, I have personally experienced symptoms. I have asthma and when we were in areas close to where burns were taking place, I could not go outside because I could not breath. Similarly, when we were working close into the wellhead (before it was capped), other members of the team could go outside and breath just fine, but I had problems. We had a VOC meter and VOCs were not at harmful levels but it was enough to bother me.
Monday February 21, 2011 11:46 Mandy Joye
11:48
Mandy Joye: 
Finally, when sampling the oily sediments, there were several of us who got red rashes on our skin when our skin came into contact with the material. I have worked in oily mud for years and it had never made my skin break out. But, this material did. I do not know why.
Monday February 21, 2011 11:48 Mandy Joye
11:48
Erik Stokstad: 
And the research itself has some dangers... you suffered some dislocated fingers on one of your cruises, didn't you? What happened?
Monday February 21, 2011 11:48 Erik Stokstad
11:50
Mandy Joye: 
Erik-there was an accident with the multiple corer that resulted in three of the fingers on my left hand getting pretty beat up and mushed. Though I did not realize it at the time, my neck was also injured. Since I didn't realize the severity of the injury, I stayed out there and worked for another 3.5 weeks. Ended up in the hospital (because of my neck injury) and am still recovering (thankfully, there is no permanent damage!).
Monday February 21, 2011 11:50 Mandy Joye
11:51
[Comment From Guest Guest : ] 
In your 11:17 answer, are you referring to the "natural microorganisms," or the "synthetic bacterial genomes?"
Monday February 21, 2011 11:51 Guest
11:51
[Comment From Janelle Janelle : ] 
What do you know about the patented Minimal Bacterial Genome?
Monday February 21, 2011 11:51 Janelle
11:52
Mandy Joye: 
Guest/Janelle--There are many naturally occurring microorganisms that degrade oil. There is no solid evidence at this time that any type of genetically engineered microorganism was introduced into the Gulf.
Monday February 21, 2011 11:52 Mandy Joye
11:53
[Comment From Michele Walker-Harmon Michele Walker-Harmon : ] 
Could the use of dispersants at the wellhead be to blame for the microbial slow down
Monday February 21, 2011 11:53 Michele Walker-Harmon
11:53
[Comment From Guest Guest : ] 
My questions a follow up of the first readers question. Dispersants were added to take care of the nutrient avaliability right? i thought that Dispersants added to the nutrient content in the gulf supposedly helping the microbes to degrade the oil. Am i right?
Monday February 21, 2011 11:53 Guest
11:55
Erik Stokstad: 
BTW, for readers who don't already know about it, Mandy has a great blog describing her research. http://gulfblog.uga.edu/
Monday February 21, 2011 11:55 Erik Stokstad
11:55
Mandy Joye: 
Michele and Guest: Dispersants could influence microbial activity--we are trying to get dispersant from NALCO to study its impacts on pure cultures and natural microbial communities. And, I have heard that ammonium sulfate was added to the dispersant to alleviate nitrogen limitation of the oil degrading microorganisms BUT I have not seen hard evidence of this.
Monday February 21, 2011 11:55 Mandy Joye
11:56
[Comment From Charlotte Vick Charlotte Vick : ] 
How can be determine if there are oxygen depleted areas? How do such zones display? Are they more likely to be deep, in the water column, at the surface? How do these things work and how can we monitor that?
Monday February 21, 2011 11:56 Charlotte Vick
11:59
Mandy Joye: 
Charlotte-great question! As time has passed, the sharp peaks in oxygen depletion have been smeared and stretched and are not so apparent. Our group is working on ways to deconvolute the profiles so that we can calculate the total oxygen drawdown -- oxygen consumption happened throughout the water column. We need to keep monitoring oxygen concentrations throughout the area but this is expensive. Autonomous deep-diving gliders with oxygen sensors would be a great way to get a lot of data without requiring a lot of ship time.
Monday February 21, 2011 11:59 Mandy Joye
12:00
[Comment From Kristi Kristi : ] 
Will the organisms at the sea floor begin to recover their populations on their own? Or are the populations not likely to rebound for a long time?
Monday February 21, 2011 12:00 Kristi
12:00
[Comment From Elise DuFour Elise DuFour : ] 
What is the time factor involved around the recovery of this area back to a viable "living" area? Or will that EVER happen in our lifetime?
Monday February 21, 2011 12:00 Elise DuFour
12:02
Mandy Joye: 
Kristi and Elise--I do not know how long it will take the bottom to recover but I do believe it will happen. The main issues are recruitment and toxicity: The size of the impacted area will influence how long it takes to recruit and rebuild the populations. However, if PAH levels, for example, are too high, this could slow recruitment. Again, a lot more work is needed before we can answer such questions with any kind of certainty.
Monday February 21, 2011 12:02 Mandy Joye
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[Comment From John John : ] 
Dr. Joye: In response to your 11:39 comment, the OSAT surveys used multi-corers to sample sediments. Are you saying the observed differences in results are due to heterogeneity?
Monday February 21, 2011 12:02 John
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Erik Stokstad: 
We'll keep going for a few more minutes to get to some final questions.
Monday February 21, 2011 12:03 Erik Stokstad
12:04
Erik Stokstad: 
PAH = polycyclic aromatic hydrocarbons. But you all probably know that already!
Monday February 21, 2011 12:04 Erik Stokstad
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Mandy Joye: 
John--No, I don't think this is entirely an issue of heterogeneity. Sampling -- how it was done -- is really important and I believe (could be wrong) there were a variety of sampling methods employed but the only one that would capture these layers consistently is multiple coring and that has to be done with great care.
Monday February 21, 2011 12:04 Mandy Joye
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[Comment From Deb Castellana Deb Castellana : ] 
Mandy, do you have another dive scheduled, and if so, when?
Monday February 21, 2011 12:04 Deb Castellana
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Mandy Joye: 
Deb--the ALVIN is currently undergoing an overhaul and will not be in service again until 2012 but we have one of the first cruises and we hope to return to the wellhead. In the meantime, we have some ROV cruises planned in the next year so that we can "see the bottom" and revisit some of our study sites.
Monday February 21, 2011 12:05 Mandy Joye
12:05
Mandy Joye: 
We'll be back out in April...
Monday February 21, 2011 12:05 Mandy Joye
12:06
[Comment From danielle futselaar danielle futselaar : ] 
Has the findings so far discouraged you in this research? (i hope not, but i can imagine)
Monday February 21, 2011 12:06 danielle futselaar
12:07
Mandy Joye: 
Danielle-I'm am an optimistic person and I don't discourage easily. I believe in the Gulf and I know the microorganisms will eventually clean up the components of the oil that can be microbially degraded. So, while frustrated sometimes, I am not one to get discouraged!
Monday February 21, 2011 12:07 Mandy Joye
12:08
Erik Stokstad: 
OK, we're going to wrap up now. Thanks for all the great questions, and I wish we could have taken them all. If you'd like to pose a question to Mandy, she's collecting them to answer on her blog (see link above). Special thanks to Mandy for taking the time to be here with us.
Monday February 21, 2011 12:08 Erik Stokstad
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Mandy Joye: 
Thanks Erik for inviting me to do this and to all of you for your interest in our work and for your great questions.


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                                                            FEMA NEWS

https://www.fbo.gov/index?s=opportunity&mode=form&id=eaea338540a0aea155a48a650a077352&tab=core&_cview=0


january 24.    2011

 

 

Some details:

RFI for Pre-Packaged Commercial Meals

Solicitation Number: HSFEHQ-11-R-Meals

Agency: Department of Homeland Security
Office: Federal Emergency Management Agency
Location: Logistics Section

 

Solicitation Number:

HSFEHQ-11-R-Meals

 

Notice Type:

Sources Sought

 

Synopsis:

Added: Jan 20, 2011 11:54 am

The Federal Emergency Management Agency (FEMA) procures and stores pre-packaged
commercial meals to support readiness capability for immediate distribution to disaster
survivors routinely.  The purpose of this Request for Information is to identify sources of
supply for meals in support of disaster relief efforts based on a catastrophic disaster event within the New Madrid Fault System for a survivor population of 7M to be utilized for the
sustainment of life during a 10-day period of operations.   FEMA is considering the following specifications (14M meals per day):

- Serving Size - 12 ounce (entree not to exceed 480 calorie count);
- Maximum calories - 1200 and/or 1165 per meal;
- Protein parameters - 29g-37g kit;
- Trans Fat - 0;
- Saturated Fat - 13 grams (9 calories per gram);
- Total Fat - 47 grams (less than 10% calories);
- Maximum sodium - 800-930 mg;


Requested Menus to include snacks (i.e. fruit mix, candy, chocolate/peanut butter squeezers, drink mix, condiments, and utensils).  All meals/kits must have 36 months of remaining shelf life upon delivery.   Packaging should be environmentally friendly. ..... and so on.....


 



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"Facts highlighted in the work of marine toxicologist and Exxon Valdez survivor, Dr. Riki Ott, published in her Huffington Post article, BP's Promise Versus What BP Really Means: Some Insights on Making People Hole (Whole) and Just Us (Justice) in the Gulfleave little mystery about who is responsible for the ongoing Gulf mega-disater, including the aerial spraying of lethal dispersants not only over water, but on human populated areas - and falsehoods about limits of the sprayed poisons.

Only a tiny amount of the Corexit poison is lethal.  Without intense mass detoxification, up to 40 million Gulf Region people could already be poisoned. Shortly before his untimely death, oil Guru Matt Simmons had predicted that mass evacuation was the sole way to prevent a heavy human death toll.

Ott writes:

"It turns out that dispersants are not -- and never were -- explicitly banned within three miles of the coast or in less than ten meters of water (the "nearshore environment") as USCG, EPA, NOAA, and other federal officials have staunchly maintained. The Coast Guard and states can approve dispersant use in nearshore environment on a case-by-case basis across the Gulf if the incident commander decides the toxic chemicals were "expected to prevent or minimize substantial threat to the public health or welfare, or to mitigate or prevent environmental damage." 

In fact, neither of policies for Region IV (Alabama, Mississippi, and Florida) or Region VI (Louisiana) have any areas where dispersant use is expressly banned. Louisiana even has an expedited process for requests to spray dispersants in the nearshore environment." 

Marine biologist and toxicologist Dr. Chris Pincetich warned in a Project Gulf Impact interview several weeks after Gulf operatives began spraying Corexit, that birds would be a mechanism for carrying the poison to people in other parts of the nation and the world. (Censored Gulf news: Dr. Pincetich on Intel Hub Radio tonight (video), Dupré, Examiner, July 10, 2010; also see Gulf continual gusher, Synthia, arsenic, plague and dead birds (video))

Can American public halt military assault against it?

As the Gulf Operation health and ecological impacts intensify, the public needs to pressure their respective states to file for Freedom of Information Act documentation according to Ott who writes:

"The Louisiana Bayoukeeper has requested that the State of Louisiana provide documentation of dispersant spraying and experimental release of bio-engineered bacteria in nearshore areas under the Freedom of Information Act. Organizations in Mississippi, Alabama, and Florida would be wise to do the same. This information is critical for understanding health and ecological impacts as well as economic harm." (Emphasis added)

Ott's article reconfirms that the military's objective in the Gulf operation is not a human one, and that military has been conducting a huge Gulf Psychological Operation (PSYOP) on an unwitting and pacified public . Consistent with the petrochemical-industrial-complex acts in other nations, unlike what the public has been led to believe, the U.S. Coast Guard's job has not been to assess impacts on the ecosystem or human health.

The U.S. military has headed the Gulf operation, formerly through Coast Guard commandant, Retired Coast Guard Admiral Thad Allen, the "National Incident Commander."

Using the repeatedly used term, "BP oil spill," part of the military Psychological Operation, (PSYOP) Allen had said in October that he "transferred oversight of the BP oil spill response" to another military officer, Rear Admiral Paul Zukunft at the Unified Area Commander, in New Orleans.  (Admiral Allen Steps Down as Gulf Oil Spill Response Commander, Environment News Service, October 1, 2010)

"Allen also served as commander of the Coast Guard's Atlantic forces in their response to the terrorist attacks on September 11, 2001. (Environment News Service)

During Mr. Jeff Rense's interview with Dr. Tom Termotto on Rense Radio Network, January 19, using the term "treasonous," Dr. Tom explained the necessity of holding accountable leaders of the Gulf operation's continued catastrophic impact on planet, humans and all life.

Since Allen is no longer immune from legal means to hold him accountable, he was named by Dr,. Termotto in the radio interview.

Allen now claims that if he had it to do over again, "on Day One of the disaster he would have taken control of the air space" according to NOLA.com. 

Allen is now a senior fellow with the RAND Corporation. .... and so on.....



Continue reading on Examiner.com: More evidence US military is Gulf crime perpetrator - National Human Rights | Examiner.com http://www.examiner.com/human-rights-in-national/more-evidence-us-military-is-gulf-crime-perpetrator#ixzz1Bw6F3tDs


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One single drop wrote:

May it be possible to get your message in two, three sentences ?
Thank you.



Why?biggrin Cant you handle the truth? 
I know that I dont have your legendary cut and paste skills.. my words straight from the heart (with a little C & P).

I must admit .. your 3 sentences ( A bit more but I guess thats how you count)




How the oily machine works ....

http://www.radio-utopie.de/2010/08/02/kongressausschuss-bp-verubte-chemisches-flachenbombardement-im-golf-von-mexiko/

 

 

".....Thad W. Allen, the current Special Representative of the U.S. government under President Barack Obama, was chief of staff of the U.S. Coast Guard. On September 9, 2005. U.S. President George Bush had transferred control of the government action after Hurricane Katrina. Days earlier the city of New Orleans was devastated.

Ten days after the explosion of "Deepwater Horizon" Allen, now Admiral of the Coast Guard, was choosen by Obama's minister for homeland security, Janet Napolitano, as head of a "united command" to coordinate the measures. Part of the "United commands Deepwater Horizon "are:

- BP
- Transocean
- The Coast Guard
- The Department of Homeland Security
- The Pentagon
- The Ministry of Foreign Affairs
- The Ministry of Interior
- The scientific authority of the Ministry of Interior for mapping the Earth and other planets, the "United States Geological Survey
- The authority Noaa weather, is the "Vatican of" CO2 equal to climate change "community
- The U.S. epidemic authority "Centers for Disease Control and Prevention CDC, misinterpreted the influential 2009 best company in a partially occurring mental weakness Köppe chat as the world's pig flu pandemic
- And of course the EPA.
Originally the headquarters of the United commands worked from inside of a Shell building.

......... Officially, BP sprayed in the Gulf of Mexico, 1.8 million gallons - more than 6.8 million liters of chemicals.


All that info ( Oh forgot the drawing, sorry ) and not really helping the situation.. or saying very much.

Ive held back on this subject and read your posts on Skippers guest book and here. Just wondering why the venom with BP and you choose ignore what has gone on before. Hysteria, seemed to grip the conspiracy world.. You seemed to be in it up to ur neck too. Just never saw your real opinion.. just the cut and pasted whispers that were, in some cases, ill informed or at best confused.

Cheers

PS Missed you too OSD lol


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Many jumped onto the band wagon of  'lets hang BP by the Balls', without much thought..  Typical human reaction. We always want a scape goat, instead of looking at the problem and finding a solution. The Ocean is a powerful catalyst and we under estimate its ability to break up oil deposits. Luckily the type of crewed was light. Its just a shame that those  whom wanted to boycott BP didnt carry out their threats.  They didnt realise that the PCs, they used to the drugs they needed to cure their sore throats from all the shouting, plus everything inbetween contains a percentage of BP oil.. You'd have to walk around naked to be effective.

This dosent mean BP's outta the woods yet.  They have a mine field to deal with such as compensation and the chemical balance of the surrounding seas need to be monitored for years to come. But in time, the whole hypocritical affair will wash away replaced by another conspiracy lead nightmare.

Note for the protestors:
Union Carbide Corporation
 Its been 20 years since the world's deadliest industrial chemical accident occurred in the central Indian city of Bhopal. Thousands of residents died in their sleep on the night of 2 December 1984, when toxic clouds of methyl isocyanate gas escaped from a pesticide plant. The Indian government says at least 15,000 people have died since then as a result of the accident. The owner of the pesticide plant at the time of the accident -- U.S.-based Union Carbide Corporation -- carried out an initial cleanup operation and made payments to the Indian government of $470 million. New Delhi, however, has yet to disburse two-thirds of those funds, which were meant to help victims. Meanwhile, chemicals from the plant continue to contaminate drinking water.

where are you protestors on this disgraceful accident? Compensation so far from Union Carbide Corporation $470 million..

initial estimates for BP to pay : $ 20 billion +
Lives lost from Oil disaster, a fraction in comparison to Union Carbide Corporation disaster!

How we all sleep at night and fill the web with misguided, blinkered words still leaves me speechless.

BP pulled out all the stops .. They tried and eventually made headway..
Whom owns the servicing company for the doomed rig?

Remember , solutions are better than chinese whispers.

And we still wonder why aliens are keeping a low profile.. lol

sorry for Typos.. using phone on train..

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Apparently, all the oil has now disappeared and we are all left wondering "where it has gone?" For all the millions and millions of barrels and gallons of oil that was released, there is now nothing. There is a photo of oil on a coast in Korea but there are no pictures of coastlines around the Gulf of Mexico with much oil on them.

Many people say that it has sunk below the surface due to all the chemicals sprayed on it. Some people say that it was all a sham and an illusion and it was manafactured to cover up something far bigger. BP was just used as a pawn in the giant chess game and may(probably) or may not have been party to it all. There is a good thread on AboveTopSecret forum which goes into all this quite deeply and they have people who live in that area too so they can comment on the actual on-the-ground situation.

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How the oily machine works ....

http://www.radio-utopie.de/2010/08/02/kongressausschuss-bp-verubte-chemisches-flachenbombardement-im-golf-von-mexiko/

 

".....Thad W. Allen, the current Special Representative of the U.S. government under President Barack Obama, was chief of staff of the U.S. Coast Guard. On September 9, 2005. U.S. President George Bush had transferred control of the government action after Hurricane Katrina. Days earlier the city of New Orleans was devastated.

Ten days after the explosion of "Deepwater Horizon" Allen, now Admiral of the Coast Guard, was choosen by Obama's minister for homeland security, Janet Napolitano, as head of a "united command" to coordinate the measures. Part of the "United commands Deepwater Horizon "are:

- BP
- Transocean
- The Coast Guard
- The Department of Homeland Security
- The Pentagon
- The Ministry of Foreign Affairs
- The Ministry of Interior
- The scientific authority of the Ministry of Interior for mapping the Earth and other planets, the "United States Geological Survey
- The authority Noaa weather, is the "Vatican of" CO2 equal to climate change "community
- The U.S. epidemic authority "Centers for Disease Control and Prevention CDC, misinterpreted the influential 2009 best company in a partially occurring mental weakness Köppe chat as the world's pig flu pandemic
- And of course the EPA.
Originally the headquarters of the United commands worked from inside of a Shell building.

......... Officially, BP sprayed in the Gulf of Mexico, 1.8 million gallons - more than 6.8 million liters of chemicals.



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Follow the Oil Money:

http://oilmoney.priceofoil.org/

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An EPA whistleblower speaks out

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anyone???

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So, what has happened?
They were going to try to seal the well, but everything has disappeared from the media.

I heard that it was successful but I do not know what the word on the ground says, does anyone have more up-to-the-minute-news please?

What of the multiple leaks on the seabed?
What of the sealing it with a nuclear device?
what of the relief wells?

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Discovery of second pipe in Deepwater Horizon riser stirs debate among experts

Published: Friday, July 09, 2010, 9:40 PM
David Hammer.

 

"......"We used a diamond saw and we got inside. We found there was actually two sets of drill pipe there," said retired Adm. Thad Allen ( Admiral Thad Allen, retired in may 2010, now gulf coordinator ), the top U.S. Coast Guard official overseeing the response to America's worst-ever oil spill. .......... BP officials said late Friday that they believe the second pipe is drill pipe. Pictures show it is similar in diameter to the known drill pipe.                                                                                                                                                        

While (expert and brave man) Allen said he believes ( strong faith) the second pipe fell from above (From heaven? ), some experts have advanced another explanation. They believe poorly cemented casings -- tubes that are supposed to form solid walls down thousands of feet of the well bore -- may have been dislodged by the blast of natural gas that shot up out of the well and above the sea floor. ......"

 
gulf-oil-blowout-preventer-two-pipesjpg-3d6033dda9c0cb92_large.jpg

What`s that ? Which side is shown? Loose part ?  Cut off ?  Where is the oil/gas coming out ? Why is it pressed flat ?
This image does not have any value. It shows nothing but wischi-waschi.

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Drawing from posting june 17.

http://www.nola.com/news/gulf-oil-spill/index.ssf/2010/07/post_19.html

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Nice speech isn`t it ? Wait a moment, what did he say ? What did he say ?

Imagine how many people are involved into this mess, right before our eyes and how little we know about it. How shall we ever learn the truth about extraterrestrial civilizations, when the guards prevent it all the time ? Time to rethink the strategy. The system feels so safe, its followers feel that comfortable, they assimilate, what they can get. "The Green movement? Love it , corrupt their leaders, make the movement constitutional, welcome to the parliaments, make some bucks on it.., some new taxes etc. "

 

How about us ? Give you an example. Which one would be the "good news" ?

"We work hard on it. It is a problem but at least we get it fixed. Seafood is safe" 

 "It is a desaster and we will not be able (are not willing ) to control/repair it. And even if we could repair it, the damages are already done."

Which one is the good news ?

The gulf seems to be lost , lost like the people. The environmental desaster will effect all the countries around the gulf , middle america and europe.

From the backstage: "We will take the chance to make some money, rising prices and taxes without presenting practible alternatives and keeping the good stuff, the advanced solutions, for ourselves. Same time crying for green, green, green useless technics which will not fix the current, selfcreated problems, but will bring some more bucks into our pockets.

We do not warn you. We do love sick people. Sick people are weak people. We destroy your homes. People without homes are movable much easier.

We will punish you with harsh environmental laws. BP / gulf- 1000 000 000 liters of oil= "natural desaster", no consequences for them. But consequences for you.

You in your backyard whilst repairing your car loosing 1 liter of oil into the ground = 3000 dollars to pay. Consequences for you. No consequences for them"

You have to pay 3000 dollars penalty to whom whatfore ? Think about it.



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                    "He’s just one of those guys."

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"Admiral Allen’s time as Commandant of the Coast Guard will be remembered for a fundamental shift in the way the Coast Guard does business and the way the world views the United States Coast Guard. "
Original quotations from: http://coastguard.dodlive.mil/index.php/2010/05/guardian-of-the-week-admiral-thad-allen/





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A dialogue between two well informed beings:

A: " Cover up !"

B: "  Cover up ? Impossible to hide !"

A: " Impossible to hide ?"

B: " Impossible to hide !"

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UaHl_WCCnYE&feature=player_embedded


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".......Thomas Gold was a close friend and teacher of mine. His scientific life has been quite combative, already during the years when he cautioned NASA's manned space research, as a director of the Cornell Center for Radiophysics and Space Research, and later as a consultant of the Swedish government to dig for petroleum from the Siljan Ring impact structure. Perhaps his strongest insight into our planetary structure is superbly presented in his [1999] book The Deep Hot Biosphere, in which he argues that most of the fossil fuel reserves are of abiogenic origin, and that life on Earth probably sprang forth in (cracks of) its solid crust—not in its primordial oceans—thermally hosted and sheltered against the heavy interplanetary bombardment, energized by rising natural gas, and (partially?) catalyzed by clay. His deep insight into physical mechanisms is best expressed in his (unpublished) saying: "Every complex physical problem has at least one simple, intuitive, and well presented wrong solution". ..... The term `Gold Effect' was coined by Raymond Lyttleton in [1981], after a conversation with him during which Gold had explained how a mere unqualified belief can occasionally be converted into a generally accepted scientific theory—a dogma—through the screening action of refereed literature, of meetings planned by scientific organizing committees, and through the distribution of funds controlled by `club opinions'. In the (last) chapter Cargo Cult Science of his book Surely you're Joking, Mr. Feynman [1985], Richard Feynman gives lucid examples of the same phenomenon. Quite generally, it occurs to me that any non-trivial physical result—in astrophysics, geophysics, biophysics, or elsewhere—which has not benefitted from redundant experimental tests has a high chance of being wrong: physics is not all that easy. ....."

Against the Tide. A Critical Review by Scientists of How Physics and Astronomy Get Done

Copyright © 2008 Martín López Corredoira

Free distribution of the electronic copy of this book is allowed.

Paperback copy of the Universal Publ. version (with an extra chapter) at www.universal-publishers.com



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It is time to leave the coast now.
I really wonder about the passivity of 20 million people living around the gulf. My fazit after collecting a lot of datas: They are lying till you are dead and afterwards they try to buy your house for a bargain.
Somebody gets to beat these people over the head for supporting the criminals against the american people. Supporting criminals is a crime. Who are they? A small selection from the freakshow:
The head of the NOAA
The head of the USGS.
The head of the Coast Guard.
The head of the Oil Industry.
The head of the National Guard.
The head of Army, Navy, Air Force.
The head of the Governement.
The head of the proud admiral "remembered for a fundamental shift" , seems right into the wrong direction.


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                           "He’s just one of those guys."

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"Admiral Allen’s time as Commandant of the Coast Guard will be remembered for a fundamental shift in the way the Coast Guard does business and the way the world views the United States Coast Guard. "

 

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When are we going to stop using this "crude" (no pun intended) form of energy?

It makes me sick...as we are all a part of it.



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Gulf oil spill intentional?Thu, 01 Jul 2010 02:28:53 GMT
 

 

 

 

 

 

"The BP oil spill continues to poison the sea, and US citizens are starting to feel like there's more than meets the eye in this story. The potential magnitude of what is unfolding in the Gulf of Mexico simply

cannot be overstated. It is far, far worse than what is being admitted and what we are allowed to see is catastrophic enough.

Lawsuits claim that the explosion on the Deepwater Horizon rig, 52 miles southeast of the Louisiana port of Venice on April 20, was caused because Halliburton workers improperly capped the well — a process known as cementing.

Oddly, just eight days before the Gulf blow-out, Halliburton also announced that it had agreed to buy Boots & Coots for $240.4 million. Who are Boots & Coots?

Boots & Coots are the world's largest oil-spill clean-up company, which also deals with oil and gas well fires and blowouts.

Goldman Sachs sold 44 per cent of its holdings in BP, a total of 4,680,822 shares worth the best part of $300 million, in the weeks before the Gulf disaster that sent BP shares plummeting.

BP chief executive Tony Hayward is reported to have sold his £1.4 million shares in BP a month before the explosion. The profit allowed him to pay off the mortgage on his mansion."

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6.5-magnitude quake rocks Mexico

Wed, 30 Jun 2010 08:03:42 GMT

A powerful earthquake measuring 6.5 on the Richter scale has struck southern Mexico, raising public panic in the area, the US earthquake monitoring service says.

The United States Geological Survey said the tremor hit eight miles (14 km) east of the Mexican state of Oaxaca, at 0722 GMT on Wednesday.

There have been no immediate reports on the injuries or major damages caused by the seismic activity.

The quake was relatively shallow at a depth of 6.2 miles (10 km) below the sea.

The tremors were also felt in the country's capital, Mexico City, causing buildings to sway and raising fear among many residents who rushed for open ground.

According to Reuters, rescue helicopters whirred over the capital and police sirens were heard, but power and phone connections were working in the city center.

The earthquake is the largest to hit the Mexican peninsula since a powerful 7.2 magnitude quake on April 5, which left two people dead and caused tremors as far away as Nevada.



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http://www.radio-utopie.de/2010/06/29/g20-reiche-sacke-werden-reicher-golf-in-mexiko-bleibt-schwarz/

29. june 2010

By petrapez.

"...and still no solution in sight. "

"....The governments of the western world have failed. At the G8 Summit and the G-20 summit in Toronto last weekend all the topics should have been canceled to find solutions together with the experts to prevent further leakage of oil from the well of the Deepwater Horizon and maximising environmental cleaning measures without toxic substances for the sea and beaches.

Instead, the oil accumulations of oil at the safety nets and the gathered up oil at the two ships are burned, rising huge toxic clouds of smoke into the atmosphere.

At the safety nets with the burn-off of the oil all living beings at this barrier are burned alive. .... "



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It kinda makes u wonder.....ya know...


If all this disaster could happen in a matter of just 2 months.......


What will happen in 6 months??????




8m months.....?


And I dare say it...but a year...........?


GOD.......we must rethink our strategies when it comes to energy.

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Do not close your eyes. It is your life. It is OUR planet. It is your planet. It is NOT their planet.

Through the centuries they stole a lot of money and ressources from the community to affort all their ugly little lusts and sins and to send their homegrown duplicates ( sons and daughters ) to schools where these brave little clones are initiated into the tricks how to suppress those , who are not that scrupelous as they are. This disrespectful caste was always a shame for mankind and does not deserve to touch the surface of this planet with their sticky fingers and their sticky minds. If we do not get ridd of them, they will destroy whatever they do not want to keep for themselves. They are the real dummies of mankind. Best education , that money can buy. As a result they do not feel compassion or real friendship, only shorttime interests and they are unable to use their brain, as free man should be able to do. Our upper class. Their rituals ( charity dinners, art celebrations ), their events ( Hollywood, wars ), what they talk about in daily life, what they care about in their dreams...... If you could imagine how they function , you would see them the way they ARE. Same moment you would feel compassion for them. By their definition compassion is a symptom of weaknes.

Advantage is their credo and primitive is their strategy:

Put 20 men into a room together with enough energy and food for 50 000 years and after five minutes one of these superior beings will start to look for ways to control the storage for himself. How? He will secretly talk to the four simplest ( weakest ) minds out of the nineteen promising them a life without sorrow and with everything they want, if they give him their support.

 

 

 

BP Slick Covers Dolphins and Whales.mov

John L. Wathen

www.bpoilslick.blogspot.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pxDf-KkMCKQ&feature=PlayList&p=7E10AEE7FC05D035&playnext_from=PL&index=47

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I am in New Orleans quite a ways inland from the Gulf, but I would refer you to this Link.  This is heartbreaking testimony from a resident of Venice which has been horribly affected from this disaster.  She has been allowed inside access to some of what has been going on and confirms that BP is definately in control.

To One Single Drop:  It may be hard to believe that this powerful government of these United States is defering to this oil company, but in truth just about all of our governments are owned by Big Banks and Oil Companies and the like.  In the light of what's happening here it is glaringly obvious.  The testimony of the brave woman at the link above confirms this.



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Strongly recommended:

Blood of the Earth - The BP Gulf Oil Spill part 1 – 8.

Gives an overview.

 

Part 1 starts with: "April 12 2010 Oil Services Giant Halliburton buys all outstanding stock of the Americas largest Oil response "Clean-up" Company Boots & Coots."                   http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=11jBQ7CiMEs&feature=related

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Running out of oil ?

A-Biotic.
Abiotic means "not produced by biotic processes", means oil and gas are not of fossile origin. And it means that the running out of oil scenario would be untrue. The abiotic theory deals with permanent new-creation in the dephts of our planet. The oil companys on planet earth have stored an incredible amount of drill cores, gathered from their exploration drillings all over the world, representing knowledge, that for shure surpasses the knowledge government agencies have, about certain regions on earth. The seismic exploration is always followed by exploration drilling. They own a hundredthousand kilometers of drill cores. They treat them like state secrets. Exploration drilling means you drill a hole to the depth you want to get probes. These drill cores cover the whole drill canal and are readable like a book , in fact they represent a picturebook of the past and the present state of the inside of our planet. The present state.

If oil and gas are of abiotic origin, quite a lot of people, scientists, economists, politicians, the armies, secret services worldwide are aware of it.

It would be the cynical joke of a humourless god, , if the abiotic theory would find its open proof in the gulf of Mexico , giving the bast... a chance to cover their lies with Martial law.

MartianArtWorks has created a slogan for distribution free of charge. Yes I know, Finch & Finch & Finch would charge you 5 00 000 for all the brainstorming and the many creative teams working day and night on it.

"Be a patriot. Die quietly."

PS. Somewhere in Africa there is a vulcano spilling "cool" carbonate lava, lava

of "organic" ( "molten" limestone ) origin. Strange, strange......



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                                                                                          "The oilspill flow could last for years, if it is not possible to control it."

by F. William Engdahl    12. june 2010

"The Obama and high BP officials are working intenisvly ... not working to combat the worst oil spill in history, but trying to hide the true extent of an environmental disaster. High-level scientists tell us, BP drilled a hole into an oil migration channel and it could leak oil for years, if not decisive steps were being taken, but this seems unlikely in the current strategy . ...

During an interview Vladimir Kucherov, Professor at the Royal Swedish Insititute of Technology and at the Russian State University for oil and gas said a few days ago, the current oil spill, which covers the coasts of the United States on the Gulf of Mexico, "could last years....many, many years". According to Kucherov, a leading expert on the theory of the abiotic origin of Petroleum, "BP drilled into a hole on to something, which we refer to as' migration channel," a deep fissure through which hydrocarbons, formed in the depths of our planet, migrate to the Earth's crust and are collected in rock formations, something like Ghawar in Saudi Arabia "(2). Ghawar, the most productive oil field in the world, has been producing for nearly 70 years, every day millions of barrels of oil, a drying up is not in sight. According to the abiotic science Ghawar is located on a migration channel, like all other giant oil and gas deposits in the world, similar to the oil-rich Gulf of Mexico. In the time of the devastating earthquake in Haiti, I have written (3) that Haiti had been identified as a potential reservoir of huge hydrocarbon reserves. Kucherov keeps the entire Gulf of Mexico for one of the world's richest accessible places for the production of oil and gas - at least before the sinking of the drilling rig Deepwater Horizon in April this year. ............................................"http://info.kopp-verlag.de/hintergruende/geostrategie/f-william-engdahl/die-oelkatastrophe-koennte-noch-jahre-andauern-wenn-es-nicht-gelingt-sie-zu-bekaempfen.html

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"IRGC offers to contain BP oil spill "

Mon, 21 Jun 2010 13:45:01 GMT

"A commander of the Islamic Revolution Guards Corps (IRGC) offers the help of experts from Khatam al-Anbiya headquarters to contain the oil spill in the Gulf of Mexico.

Brig. Gen. Rostam Qasemi said the failure of US officials to curb the leak had increased concerns about the possibility of an environmental disaster in the Gulf of Mexico.

"It is a cause for shame that the US and UK … are still unable to contain the oil spill two months has passed since the oil rig was destroyed."

Qasemi went on to say that if the US and UK believe they are unable to contain the spill, "they can formally ask Iran for assistance" and Tehran will "send experts from Khatam al-Anbiya headquarters to help end the major crisis and an environmental disaster."

"Iranian experience in managing oil leaks in certain Persian Gulf littoral states such as Kuwait is a proof of their capability."

Khatam al-Anbiya is among the 15 Iranian companies which were targeted in the latest round of UN Security Council sanctions imposed against Tehran on June 9.

Despite the recent sanctions, the IRGC is ready to fulfill its humanitarian mission by sending its forces to the Gulf of Mexico, Qasemi added. "

http://www.presstv.ir/detail.aspx?id=131378&sectionid=351020101

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NATURAL GAS AND COAL SYNTHESIS FROM LIMESTONE AND CARBON DIOXIDE

LANDAU, Chris, 6764 Therese Trail, Browns Valley, CA 95918, chrislandau@yahoo.com

 

(TS#17)

I suggest that inorganic pathways exist for producing coal, natural gas and oil from dolomite(CaMgCO3), calcium carbonate(CaCO3) (limestone), calcium carbonate

rich sandstones and mudstones, carbon dioxide and carbon monoxide. The carbon in the calcium carbonate is changed to methane and other natural gases by heat,

pressure and by reducing hydrogen sulphide gas and water. Active fault zones are a source of hydrogen sulphide gas, carbon dioxide gas and water. Under reducing

conditions water poor regions will produce coal. With more water, natural gases are produced. With abundant water, oil is produced.

Natural gas is found within, below and above limestone or calcium rich sandstone layers. These layers are the source of methane. They are not the traps for natural

gas. In a reducing environment, limestone is changed to methane.

CaCO3(limestone)+4H2S(hydrogen sulphide)+2Fe(iron) =Ca (OH)2(hydrated lime)+CH4(methane)+H20(water)+2FeS2(Pyrite)

Also, in the presence of water and hydrogen sulphide, a reducing and hydrating environment, methane, lime and sulphur tri-oxide are produced.

CaCO3+H20+H2S = CH4 +Ca (OH) 2+SO3 (sulphur tri-oxide)

Coal and methane may form by carbon dioxide or carbon monoxide bubbling out of volcanic vents in the presence of hydrogen sulphide (black smokers) No limestone

is necessary.

H2S will react with salt-water brines to produce HCl (hydrochloric acid).

H2S+2NaCl (salt) = 2HCl+Na2S

Hydrochloric acid reacts with calcium carbonate to produce carbon dioxide.

1) 3CO2(carbon dioxide) + H2S = 3CO(carbon monoxide) +H2O+SO2 (sulphur dioxide)

2) SO2 +CaCO3 = CaSO4+CO

Sulphur dioxide converts limestone to gypsum or anhydrite.

3) H2S + 3CO = 3C (coal/lignite) +H2O+SO2

Carbon dioxide and water with hydrogen sulphide will produce methane gas.

4) 2C + H2S + 3 H2O =2 CH4 + SO3

The accepted origin for coal and gas is through forests and plankton being buried under heat and pressure. Tree fern fossils or pterodactyl fossils and dinosaur

bones in coal do not mean that these fossils created the coal. The fossils were preserved in non – oxidizing, reducing conditions. Plankton in oil means that these

reducing conditions preserved these organisms. The plankton did not create the oil. Coal is therefore a chemical sedimentary deposit as is chert (SiO2) and dolomite

(CaMgCO3). Oil and gas are inorganic by-products of reducing environments and conditions. With further reduction and in the presence of iron, coal and seashells, are

changed to pyrite. Gastropod shells are often seen under reducing conditions, perfectly preserved and made of pyrite. The Petrified Forest, which represent tree trunks

turned to stone, under siliceous conditions, does not mean that living trees when buried, are always preserved in carbon form. The fossils outlines are preserved, but

they are altered to the chemistry that surrounds them.

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What we need is a website where people can go to report things - specifically on this oil spill rather than general whistle-blowing website. There are plenty of those and it would all get lost in the general whistle-blowing on one of those sites.

Then all we do is to publicise the site we have set up so that everyone can go and report their stories without news blackout from BP etc.

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Hello Vermicules,

what`s the coast guard   doing ?   Are there any informations avaiable about efforts and steps to stop the leaking / leakings  ?  
Logically the leaks are the main problem. So there the energy should be concentrated. It does not make much sense, cleaning  some part of a beach today, which is poisoned again tomorrow.
I mean they use infrared sensors and deep ground radar, they monitore the gulf from up above ( ISS) and satellites ), they have geological maps depicting the underground, so a lot of people should have significant pieces of datas.
Listened to the radio in Germany this morning.  They are talking about costs and BPs stock exchange value. Money, money, drives the world  to the ground......  
Again they used past-terms; instead of "is flowing," they say "flowed."

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Well...I don't know about the " more oil is released naturally than any other man made spill in history" part.....I think if that were the case....well....I don't.


I really think this is a lot bigger problem than is being "let out" so to speak.

And if it really takes atleast a year to get the hole plugged....I think the world's oceans are Fu(ked.


Man this is F'd up.



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