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Q...u posted a lot of images...I really would like to see what you mean...would you point me to the right image so I may praytell.....

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Timewarp, as an African I have no knowledge of cranial protrusions, this is what I can add to your quest.

Egypt - Akheneton (think thats right) had a strange protrusion from the back of his skull shared by many of his children

Africa - many tribes elongate their necks by placing metal rings around them from childhood. Certain tribes elongate their lips by placing wooden discs into holes cut into them. Certain tribes elongate their ears by using holes cut in the lobes and inserting discs to extend them over time.

Americas - some ancient tribes bound the heads of their infants onto boards to elongate the skulls into a similar shape to the skull of Akheneton.

This article may make interesting reading for you

http://www.bioanth.org/Dingwall/Dingwell.1931.Chapter.IV.pdf

As an aside, did you know that Buddha is supposed to have had a cranial protrusion ?

See here http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Thirty-two_marks_of_the_Buddha



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qmantoo said earlier, "On this earth, there are some African tribes who are very tall (most over 6 feet tall) and some small jungle tribes who are barely 4 feet tall."

I know from some previous research I carried out into the Inca civilization and other early South American peoples that trephenations were being performed using crude instruments up to the early 16th century. I was wondering if anyone else had come across evidence of trephenations with reference to the jungle tribes in other countries.

Also, is there any evidence that any of the people of the current jungle tribes have cranial protrusions on their heads?


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You mean this one...
http://marsrovers.jpl.nasa.gov/gallery/all/2/m/1486/2M258284809EFFAY00P2956M2M1.JPG

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Q...I looked at 'em all...I'm not sure I know which one you are referring too..

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So, SP, you do not like the picture of 'inside a rock' I posted a link to earlier? What does it look like to you then? I admit, that in black and white, it is difficult to see what it is, but it must have been interesting to NASA. Could be mineral deposit (coral-like, but mineral) I suppose, like you get amethysts growing in on Earth.

To me, it looks as if there are some lichen or fungus growing inside a micro-cave or hole in the rock that the Microscopic Imager has just uncovered. If there ARE tiny people, then for me, this is one way they provide food for themselves.

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I agree timewarp....as far as how many legs and feet...thats anybodies guess.

But I go with 2 until proven other wiseaww

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I firmly believe that what we are seeing on the floor of Hale crater is the handiwork of a much more mature taller species. There is no doubt that these regular shapes are structures laid out in neat formations, and the species that built them would most probably be bipedal - unless you have other ideas.

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Q...you have made very valid points, that will take some time to disprove or prove.

So have the rest of you. Goggog and fruit, you are right as NOTHING can be ruled out out for food.

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However, now it leads to the question...How many intelligent species are there? Capable of building,growing,demolishing, ect,ect.

Like earth, there is diverse life every where, but that does not mean everything can build structures. In fact, of the millions of different species here...only one does that. I'm not saying its the same on mars.......But I think its safe to say...worms arn't building structures(without arms)...wouldn't you? Unless of course we open a whole other can of worms( no pun intended) and go for the telekinesis approach..


I believe we should start trying to classify who and what is doing this ( if any ) to better credit ourselves with the community..opposed to throwing everything in the pot, and making guesses. Ruling out one possibility after another....until only one is left....then...no matter how unlikly or improbable it may seem...it must be true.

One thing is for certain....that 99% of what is shown...seems to indicate building things into the landside...or out of rocks...or under them, with all food sources seem to be hidden and being of small nature.

I still disagree with "tiny" people...being ant size or so.
But i can go as far as saying 12" or bigger....
The skipper has shown some things that would go against the whole under rock living so to speak...like here.


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THis to me...is FAR MORE accurate in terms of crops. It would howe ever put them quite larger than ant size or a couple centimeters....

Just my 2 cents


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А что, если они есть энергия? Ну, и идея confuse

 

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Maybe we should look for signs of crops or food? After all, they are all likely to eat something and the larger you are, the more you need to eat. Worms I can accept would possibly eat earth but large worms need huge amounts - particularly if they are inefficient at processing it or need a lot of earth to extract thier 'food' from it.

If this is so, we should be seeing piles or worm-casts. I have seen these in rover images before now, but they are not terribly big - as far as I can tell, more like ant hills. Maybe thiese are produced by other beings who live underground too. not just worms? More speculations.

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Interesting discussion....

Can I add some more sizes for interest sake

Worms - from small snake/eel size to large enough to be seen from space

Possible reptoids/colony dwellers - create dome structures we are not used to i.e the 'spray' area that Skipper reported on and then was discussed by us also appear to be larger than us

The 'tower' makers and Colossal Head architects - these objects are so enormous that they can be seen from space, the occupants would be far larger than us if scale was considered as an indication of inhabitants size

The 'coin' found, I think Humanoid calculated that the being who could hold that would be about 40cm tall

Maybe the LPT does not apply to bi-pedals, perhaps an ant-like creature of 2mm that is capable of intelligent design

The 'rocks' that could be life-forms, they vary in size per 'species'

So, like Earth, it is possible that there are numerous variations of sizes from an ant to a Sperm Whale (and bigger) and possibly all capable of intellignt design....



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so what or who made the re-inforced concrete block or is it a "natural geological feature of that kind of rock" ? (1P320037373EFFABE1P2379L2M1.JPG)

There are small structures here


In progress demolition and 'bridge-like' structure


some food supply pictures along with a micro-cave environment
another Nasa pic


various tracks, parallel lines and earth movements
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After a while everyone will start to question if Mars is really the desolate barren landscape we have been told.
So...If some 'things' made these marks on an uninhabited planet, then you estimate the being's size as I have done.


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Thank you for giving me your honest opinion as far as the LPT...and different variations.

I for one, am a man of logic. If full disclosure happens in my lifetime( it won't--although Im a believer ) then I will handle it .......logically, with reason, and thought. The same process should be used when trying to discover the unknown or little people on mars. EVEN IF, ALL OR SOME of the data you receive is faulty or corrupt. This is a very difficult hill that we all are climbing together, some faster than others, on some more yet, jumping off the hill. But none the less, Logic can never be thrown out...ever. Yes, I agree that tampering is goin on.....but we cannot just say that every image is corrupt ( even though that may be the case ) in identifying anomalies. I think Chandre said it, about if you have to manipulate the image to all hell to get your point out, then it will not go good in the eyes of the public, or for that matter, an un trained eye so to speak.

You see.....Skipper had it easy with those old Clementine images, hardly any photo manipulation to point out the obvious. These Mars images are far more obfuscated and really is much harder to point out even the simplest of observations.
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I can go along with a theory until it has been proven wrong ....like most. And up until now, I have not heard you say you believe there is more than one size. Now 3 sizes or so....puts in a lot of room for maneuvering....which is fine. I would just like to try and bring a more scientific: prove/disprove type of debate instead of just labeling it this or that and moving on right away....This also will bring more creditbillity to those that follow this type of posting.

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I personally believe that not even half of the images presented are actually anything at all, and are more of just identifying patterns in random images.

But anyways.....I enjoy debating with ya Q....and fruit...wherver he is right nowbiggrin

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haha yes, I can see your point.

We do not know the extent of the deception we are being fed. We can only suspect and be suspiscious of images we are provided with.

From my investigations, I tend to believe that there are at least 3 sizes of beings on Mars. Something similar to our size, something about half to a quarter of our size and something very small.

I have found and seen in other posts what I think is space craft pieces or wreckage. Also pieces of machinery and that re-inforced concrete rod rock. These I attribute to our size or about that.

I have found or seen in other posts, pictures of things in holes, small dwellings, stuff which leads me to believe that the beings are smaller than us, maybe like our medium sized animals with intelligence, maybe bi-pedal?

I have found or seen in other posts, pictures of small structures and also REALLY small structures. Both suggest intelligence evolved over a long time due to the extensiveness of the coverage.

I really do not see your problem with many sizes of beings on Mars. Try to get your head around it and look at the pictures yourself. In one you may see something odd, in the next you may see another odd thing, and then just have to try to mke sense of it all.

If NASA are totally playing mind games with us, then nothing that we see is real so anything is possible. Your logic will only cause you more confusion because what you see does not fit your logic as to what SHOULD be.

I have seen many strange things in my life (not in photographs) that I cannot explain and I just have to go with the flow until I become more knowledgable.

Anyway, when full disclosure comes, imagine the confusion of people who are not familliar with any of these strange theories. I am afraid it is true that many people will not be able to handle it at all.

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I totally agree that what we "know" may not fit the aliens...eveloutionary development...

But being logical....and looking at all the houses and pyramids and structures....it starts getting to be more imaginary than science.

I mean......1 thing is for sure here right.....that they are NOT our size...correct? So I think, judging from all previous posts...we can start nailing down a size...if any. From 1 foot to 2 mm. Is that not fare?

After that, we can actuaully start trying to nail something down in stead of just making stuff up every time a new piece of evidence comes in to play and making that piece fit the story

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The problem is not the hidden food supply( although I have stated it twice)

As you will see above, right next to  1)  is the whole problem of scale.

In one image, we are suppossed to believe they are this size...in another they are nearly 100% larger to accomodate the new evidence...

Can we please start to nail down a specific size of these beings so we can either prove or disprove the LPT

Unless you would have us believe the "inhabitants" vary in size by nearly a 100 - 200 %

Thats like us ranging from 5 foot to 50 foot.....

The scale does not fit the so called "evidence"

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On this earth, there are some African tribes who are very tall (most over 6 feet tall) and some small jungle tribes who are barely 4 feet tall. That is only in a civilisation of maybe 10 thousand years. (I may not subscribe to the accepted evolutionary theory)

Why not have various sizes of small beings - they do not even have to be bi-pedal or even based on carbon either, so your assumption that they have to do what we do, is not really valid.

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I have posted pictures of their food supply as found by NASA. You obviously did not see it (or believe it!)

If you are so small, then even pieces of sand would be like boulders flying through the air. Wouldn't it make sense to live in a controlled environment where there are no 'boulders' flying about in the wind?

Until NASA come along and open up the top of your rock and expose everything to the environment!
Or until they come along and run over centuries of buildings or whatever in their Rover.

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I totally agree with the OP that it is possible....but I wanted to elaborate more as I keep seeing more and more so called "evidence" that points to the little people theory.

Biggest problems with the LPT(Little people theory).

1) There IS NO UNIFORM SCALE. One person says a little house...the next says a little pyramid...the next says a little vehicle or little path....
One Big problem with all this....The sacle is all off for each and every discovery. One person says i found a house yet the next house that is found would be for a LP 200% bigger or smaller.  The same goes for vehicles, structures,houses,cities,ect,ect,ect,ect.

If one is going to believe in the LPT then shouldn't there be some consistancy with it?....Yes...of course there should.


2)As I have mentiontioned in previous posts....where is the food supply? Where is the water supply? Where is all there building materials from---don't say rocks...Where is there waste, Where is there  extra sand at if they are digging all these tunnels and caverns i ask u? If this is a civilization...then theres should be huge crops or something....but is there....NO. The arguement for that would be....they could colonise underground....like ants....and therefore store food and such under therer as well. Well....I guess that may be enough for some...but not me.


Of course...just my 2 cents

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Dang...Is that a 2 story house...they are living better than me

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Here and a small house for small little mensmile




Excuse. It was necessary to tell "a small house for small Martians"confuseaww



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Here and a small house for small little mensmile

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I was just busting yer chops....thats all lol

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No...no one is perfect...not even me

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Yeah well, everyone can make mistakes of interpretation. No-one is perfect, not even me. But I am working on it!

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However...on an opposing view.

It seems that most of the things that come up as tampering "in the forums words" deals in small obfuscations in a small scale.

And wait a minute.....didn't you make a post about a little vehicle traveling to a "structure" the other day....lol

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You mean like this one?
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Ya, I agree that evidence like this is not much to me...as I have said before, its like looking at clouds...I see one thing .. you see another....


show me some skeletol remains or fossils......then I'll be more inclinded to believe.

But we have a hard enough time just getting clear images of rocks let alone something that grand...




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I have to say that the Little People Theory is rather difficult to believe, particularly when they are supposed to be the size of common house ants. However, if there were such a population on Mars, they would almost undoubtedly show up in the Microscopic imager photos. At least their handiwork and structures would show up there, but do not see any evidence of them at all. Beings this small would produce some incredibly detailed structures and I have seen none so far.

I am not saying that anyone who believes in this theory is totally wrong, but I personally find it a difficult one. I think it is perfectly possible that there are colonies of small people as alien species, but it is a matter of degree of size for me, and so far, I have not seen any evidence of beings as small as ants running around on Mars.

Yes, in general, the cameras may not be able to capture such small beings, but there is one which can, and that has not produced any evidence to date which makes me want to change my mind.

Even the Phoenix pictures in the other thread do not appear to me to hold much evidence of this sized being.

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