Alien Anomalies

Members Login
Username 
 
Password 
    Remember Me  
Mars Anomaly Research archive -> Alien Anomalies -> How to get started -> Forum rules and guidelines
Post Info
TOPIC: Forum rules and guidelines
Xenon


Administrator

Status: Offline
Posts: 673
Date:
RE: Forum rules and guidelines
Permalink  
 

I am sorry for not answering your initial query but family matters take priority over everything else for me

I have no problem with enhancing an image providing it not only shows the anomaly but also the environment the anomaly belongs in, most of the imagery we see is a two dimensional digital copy without access to the digital data that made up the original image, we can enhance the image by adjusting the contrast, hue, saturation, and tone, I have found that lowering the contrast often shows what is hidden in shadow, and even inverting the image can often show up tampering

All the released images have had some form of filtering before being released, notably higher contrast and red filter to enhance shadow and reduce detail, once we get past the red filtering with the Martian images we see the surface is very like earth's own deserts, exposed sedimentary rock shows recent hydrological periods leading to the present geological drought, and we have found life and artificial objects on top and half buried in the Marian soils, all with the basic enhancements mentioned above.

I understand that technology has advanced since reopening the forum in 2005 as has the imagery too, I am also aware of the many gifts and capabilities our members bring to the forum, the stunning work by papadipongo showed us how how deep we could see into an image using basic technology, his lunar discoveries are IMHO one of the strongest testaments showing habitation on the moon as well as other stunning anomalies, other members have shown us where imagery has had manipulation done to it (and to a large extent how the manipulation was done), but myself and others are yet to be convinced that using digital manipulation on a 2D copied image such as layering will bring about more detail to the anomaly and its credibility, other members have tried, but the images shown nothing new to the anomaly or its location, and at times shows the image as a fuzzy bright digital mess.

Most anomalies whether artificial or natural are found because we see them with our own eyes, we know they are out of place because our members are not stupid and most have a good understanding of the Martian surface and make-up of the planet, as well as the science and image technology involved (that's why so many visitors return to read our posts), as serious researchers we have to look at every detail we can find in the image to draw our conclusions and if technology can help with that then it is a good thing, but at the end of the day we have to show the anomaly for what it is, where it is, and not just what it looks like.

As Q said "almost anything goes as long as we have links to the originals so that people can go and examine the source documents", if members can show more detail and depth of the anomaly then all credit to them and I am sure all our members would welcome seeing it too, a short explanation (or links) of the techniques used is sometimes advisable but not compulsory.



__________________

"Creating a fiction when stating a fact destroys the credibility of the truth one are trying to convey"
Macten


Veteran Member

Status: Offline
Posts: 319
Date:
Permalink  
 

Yes Q, that is exactly the method I was referring to. I agree with you but I would like an answer from the Administrator who I do respect but I think is mistaken in this case. The only reason I asked this question is because that is the main method I use for clarifying some of these pics. Some of the early pics were not so artfully obfuscated and needed less enhancement to see the anomaly.  The state of the art has increased several fold in the past couple of years to where the whole picture has obfuscation rendering it extremely difficult to see what is really there. 



__________________
qmantoo


Teaching the truth

Status: Offline
Posts: 1921
Date:
Permalink  
 

macten, how does layering work? Do you mean stacking as they do that with the Microscopic Imager pictures to get a greater depth of field and they also do that for astronomical images to get greater definition of stars.

As far as I know, almost anything goes as long as we have links to the originals so that people can go an examine the source documents. Certainly in the past we have had all kinds of wierd and wonderful 'enhancements' along with the artifacts they produced. Some from myself too.

So, I dont think something used by police forces will be out-of-bounds here. Besides, we can hardly do more manipulation than NASA do in their tampering I reckon.

__________________


 
Macten


Veteran Member

Status: Offline
Posts: 319
Date:
Permalink  
 

As I read your guidelines you mentioned layering as a form of manipulation. Is this unacceptable to this forum? Layering is used by every police and investigative law enforcement agency in the land and is accepted as evidence in court (in the USA).  I could see shading as manipulation but layering does not add or subtract to the original pixel format.

If you do not wish that it be used here I will abide by your decision.  Please clarify.

 



__________________
Xenon


Administrator

Status: Offline
Posts: 673
Date:
Permalink  
 

Hi Susan

You are welcome to post your evidence in the Solar system anomalies 



__________________

"Creating a fiction when stating a fact destroys the credibility of the truth one are trying to convey"
Susan


Member

Status: Offline
Posts: 2
Date:
Permalink  
 

I'm new to this forum. Do the anomalies posted on this Forum have to be strictly
related to Mars, or is it OK to post anomalies from other planets/moons?

Thank you.

__________________
Xenon


Administrator

Status: Offline
Posts: 673
Date:
Permalink  
 

Alien Anomalies (AA) and the Planetary Truth Project (PTP) are two separate entities sharing the same board, both have separate objectives and should not reflect negatively on each other.

This site is unique in the sense that it gives its members the ability to post freedom of thought and expression rarely seen at other boards, the forum often covers evidence that requires the viewer to have an open mind when dealing with anomalies that are alien to us.

We often have to adjust settings or use imaging software to sharpen an image to show artefacts or structures that are hidden by contrast, brightness etc., this type of image adjustment is widely accepted and understood by the community who can then verify the image for themselves.

However problems can arise when posters use layering or other software then submit images that they have manipulated to show anomalies that may not be verified by other members, we are then moving into the realms of data manipulation which is something all our members are fighting against.

Because of the serious nature and research undertaken at this site, we expect evidence to be presented in a professional way that can be verified by other members, if a poster is having difficulty in their presentation help will always be offered by staff and other members, but all post should be posted in the relevant category and topic.

We encourage free speech so long as it is used responsibly and with consideration for other members, also remember some of our members do not speak or write English, and their translation can be lost depending on the translation program used.

Below is a list of rules that is sent out upon registration, failure to follow these rules and guidelines may result in a members account being suspended by the moderators or deleted by Administration.....

This forum is intended to provide an atmosphere of open communication, where each member can share his or her own
insights and opinions.

To help achieve this goal, we ask that you

Do not post libellous or illegal material.

Do not post harassing or discriminatory comments based on race, ethnic origin, gender, or sexual orientation.

Do not solicit or advertise.

If you have questions or comments about this forum (such as technical difficulties or performance issues), please contact the forum administrator/moderator

Any post that violates the above conditions, or departs from the intended purpose of this forum may be removed without notice by the administration

We reserve the right to edit any post for reasons including, but not limited to: language, length, or content not appropriate to the topic of this forum.

Older threads or messages may be removed from time to time, to maintain categories or threads of manageable length.

Any member who breaches these Guidelines through hostile, abusive or other inappropriate behaviour may find their account privileges revoked.

Remember that this is a public forum, and you have no guarantee or expectation of privacy. Your post could be read by anyone.

Posts can be traced. We record information about every user of this forum, and will honour any court orders or requests by recognized law authorities for information about individuals posting libellous material.

All communications on this board are deemed to be public and not private communications. We reserve the right to remove without notice any message posted for any reason, but we have no obligation to remove content you find objectionable.

Regarding your email address and other personal information

Although we require your email address for verification purposes, we recommend that you do not post it or any other personal information such as phone numbers or your home address. Your posts can be searched by bots or third parties that have no affiliation with the administrator of this forum.

Disclaimer

The views expressed by members of this forum are their own and do not reflect the position of the administrator or other members. Each member is responsible for the content of his/her own posts. Please report any activity which is libellous, inflammatory, or in violation of common decency to the forum administrator immediately.



As this forum evolves and the evidence presented changes, there will be times when these guidelines may have to be amended, any such changes will be announced beforehand.

Any concerns about these guidelines or anything else related to the forum should be addressed directly to a staff member before posting it on the forum.

__________________

"Creating a fiction when stating a fact destroys the credibility of the truth one are trying to convey"
Page 1 of 1  sorted by
 
Quick Reply

Please log in to post quick replies.
Mars Anomaly Research archive -> Alien Anomalies -> How to get started -> Forum rules and guidelines
Tweet this page Post to Digg Post to Del.icio.us


Create your own FREE Forum
Report Abuse 		Powered by ActiveBoard