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very nice find havik
the semi-circular structure seems indeed artificial

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I have made an interesting find, i want to post it now but it's gonna be alot of images. I have been looking over a certain Martian area using MOC images and cannot beleive what i am seeing. Structures very similar and some as clear and clearer to my post above. I am seriously findong so many in this one area it is amazing. Every raw image i open there is more and more.
I wont go any further yet, i wanna but it all together and make a quality post ( another sleepless night i guess :(

But seriously i thought the one at Endeavour Crater was a fluke, but what i am finding is much better and alot bigger!! I'll try and post as soon as possible.

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If you are acting like an expert on AA , you are an expert in the eyes of some  viewers. So I ask you , the expert,  once again: Show us some clear  evidences.  If someone is claiming to be able to look "through" the tampering, he should get a chance to present some proofs for his claims. Surprise us. Regard it as a chance.

And please do not harm the messenger, if you do not like the message. Try to stay cool.
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  But folks,  seriously , you are kidding. This would be the moment to tell the audience, ok, we had some fun, wanted to find out what you are willing to take, but thats it.  Sorry for wasting your time.

Now let`s have a look on what we have. First come, first go , one "of the worlds best  imaging pathologists & enthusiasts...... We employ various ground breaking techniques to get beneath "Truths Protective Layer". " Text taken from the Web side: secret planets.

One of the worlds best imaging pathologists is presenting images on our webside, ( Why not present them on your  own webside, by the way ? ), which are more worse than the "tampered" original ones from NASA and JPL.  Looking on these presented images  I see dots, nothing else than dots in different shades of grey, accompagnied by claiming phrases full of pure phantasie.  Intelligently fabricated constructions, but pure Rorschach.

AA is dedicated to serious science, thoughtfull speculations and creative communications between people interested in astronomy, space exploration and all kinds of anomalies.  It  is no meeting place for dotcollectors.

In my opinion, wether you are no  expert , or you are fooling our visitors , misusing this webside for spreading desinformation.  Now the time has come to present your abilities in processing. Show us some high quality clear images of real evidences or  take a long, long  break.

This is my opinion, after a lot of timewasting  starring at dots and reading a lot of promises and excuses.

I never joke by the way, even my jokes do have a serious background.


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Hey thewatcher, just checked your site. Good job!! :)

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Re: showing evidence and high quality evidence. I may be no expert in image processing but im pretty happy with he images i have shared. biggrin Damn good pics and i have gone over alot of pics

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Why are you posting this here? It has nothing to do with this thread?? So i take you dont see anything in the pics? lol An alien could walk up and tap you on the head and you would probably check yourself into the looney bin thinking yourself as delusional.

Stop wasting our time.

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For the record OSD

Welcome to SecretPlanets.com We are a group of some of the worlds best  imaging pathologists & enthusiasts whom have been kindly given this site to show our findings with regards our solar system. 

Under Creative Commons License: Attribution

See the guy in red? Thats me... im the money.. I finance the site. I bring in the talent and I go on the hunt for life elsewhere.  Now if you dont like that then thats tuff..  Weather you like my contributions or not is the beauty of a forum, your entitled to that.  MarsRocks latest staement should be loud and clear for even you OSD. This is the last time I'll communicate with you directly.. Your bringing down the forum to your child like level.  If you have a problem PM me My brief discussion with havick007 is a well known incident in ATS.  

Its time you started taking on the badge of moderator with some class and stop winding people up! You know nothing about my private affairs.  and I'll be damed if i'll explain any more to someone like you!

You are completely off my radar OSD..

And way out of order!!



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OSD Im not the guy... I wish I was.. Now go away youre irritating me.. By the way the guy in our whose, one of the best, team works freelance for G agencies.. He comments on work we do and advises on new ways to improve our delivery.. OSD you really are starting to make a fool of urself...

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Alien Anomalies , the place where good old friends come together....

  But folks,  seriously , you are kidding. This would be the moment to tell the audience, ok, we had some fun, wanted to find out what you are willing to take, but thats it.  Sorry for wasting your time.

Now let`s have a look on what we have. First come, first go , one "of the worlds best  imaging pathologists & enthusiasts...... We employ various ground breaking techniques to get beneath "Truths Protective Layer". " Text taken from the Web side: secret planets.

One of the worlds best imaging pathologists is presenting images on our webside, ( Why not present them on your  own webside, by the way ? ), which are more worse than the "tampered" original ones from NASA and JPL.  Looking on these presented images  I see dots, nothing else than dots in different shades of grey, accompagnied by claiming phrases full of pure phantasie.  Intelligently fabricated constructions, but pure Rorschach.

AA is dedicated to serious science, thoughtfull speculations and creative communications between people interested in astronomy, space exploration and all kinds of anomalies.  It  is no meeting place for dotcollectors.

In my opinion, wether you are no  expert , or you are fooling our visitors , misusing this webside for spreading desinformation.  Now the time has come to present your abilities in processing. Show us some high quality clear images of real evidences or  take a long, long  break.

This is my opinion, after a lot of timewasting  starring at dots and reading a lot of promises and excuses.

I never joke by the way, even my jokes do have a serious background.

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lol yeah we can only try but the skeptics seem to out number us sometimes :( it's sad really. They have such closed minds.

Although if we keep at it we will get there eventually :)

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havick007 wrote:

Yeah true, he is a champion. i'm surfing his pages right now.

I'm fairly new to ATS, it's good but alot of junk post's can clog up the good stuff ya know. I was posting on the Google Earth forums for ages but they all hated me there lol. All the moderators and regulars are full on skeptic's. I copped alot of crap and they finally banned me. The forum admin emailed me and said good luck in the conspiracy forums.

I actually re-registered with this new picture and posted it and i have had hardly any feedback at all which is very unusual for that site. Normally that give all the usual skeptic answers. Just 10 minutes ago the Admin locked my thread and provided a link to NASA for further info. Here's the link to my thread if ya wanna have a look.

I actually first posted it in the off world / mars forum but they moved it out to an obscure meber centric forum full of junk post's for google earth. No matter what i always got the highest hits out of all the threads in the Mars forum yet the kicked me and deleted 90% of my threads there. :(

http://bbs.keyhole.com/ubb/ubbthreads.php?ubb=showflat&Number=1325201#Post1325201




Same DNA  friend.. smile sound like you must be Harrys twin lol

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Yeah true, he is a champion. i'm surfing his pages right now.

I'm fairly new to ATS, it's good but alot of junk post's can clog up the good stuff ya know. I was posting on the Google Earth forums for ages but they all hated me there lol. All the moderators and regulars are full on skeptic's. I copped alot of crap and they finally banned me. The forum admin emailed me and said good luck in the conspiracy forums.

I actually re-registered with this new picture and posted it and i have had hardly any feedback at all which is very unusual for that site. Normally that give all the usual skeptic answers. Just 10 minutes ago the Admin locked my thread and provided a link to NASA for further info. Here's the link to my thread if ya wanna have a look.

I actually first posted it in the off world / mars forum but they moved it out to an obscure meber centric forum full of junk post's for google earth. No matter what i always got the highest hits out of all the threads in the Mars forum yet the kicked me and deleted 90% of my threads there. :(

http://bbs.keyhole.com/ubb/ubbthreads.php?ubb=showflat&Number=1325201#Post1325201

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Appreciated.. Yup using histogram thermal, prism, invert, blue-grey, red-orange, hue saturation.. all fantastically useful tools. But i dont use them.. Something very different employed. Red is a very good filter to pull up tampering (i mean deepen the area to black) .

Yup.. its a n important thing to flip image.. also what gets me .. is if i come back to image after a few hours,its almost as if the brain seems to recover from the visual assault and is keen to find more..

Thanks for the links.. will make time later this week.

Good to see you here from ATS.. Im an old soldier too from that battle ground.. (ATS) Its quite a beeze nest but great reading. I was in when John (John Lear) got caught up in that SHxxT Storm and left.. The guys a legend, a little controversial but great images.

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In the above link for the mass download of raw images the actual image of the area is E0200373.
NASAview is good but it doesnt let you zoom. You can however export files as jpegs etc and then view in your own program.
Also in the NASA program at the top when you gto larger image selation and next line in some shots it extends the shot and gives larger areas. Only some shots though.

Have fun :)

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I will attach the raw images in this post, hopefully not too big. You need the program NASAview to open them though, free download here: http://pds.nasa.gov/tools/release/software_download.cfm

It's good when you open an image and goto the top option and goto histogram, you can also change the image, view thermal, prism, invert, blue-grey, red-orange and lots more.
The area looks kinda different upside down though, you can still make out the structure and the other structures around it but they all look different. some look better some look wrong, so it's hard to say from perspective which is right ya know.

Anyway i will attach all the raw images i have of this area. In regard to many other's the MOC images are great and available everywhere, i downloaded a massive batch from the MOC covering March to April 2001, there's heaps mre online you just gotta google what you are looking for.

Enjoy the pics :)


I also have the img file which is about 150meg but i cant upload it. That one containes over 100 raw images for one month from the MOC camera, i will try to go back and find the link and update later if i find it.

Ok edit: I cant upload the files, they are too big.

Here is a link to all the Raw images from MSSS:

http://www.msss.com/mars_images/moc/mgs_moc_archive.html

http://ida.wr.usgs.gov/graphical.htm ( not so user friendly though )

http://www.msss.com/mars_images/moc/guest/ - main link ( i downloaded this file: mer-e02.tar (160 MBytes) --- Data from Extended Mission cycle E02 --- 1 March 2001 through 1 April 2001 --- Added: 6 May 2001 )



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Even more interesting in regard to your avater, you notive it looks similar but upside down, well the original raw image is actually upside down, like your avatar. It was only when it was processed and put on the mssc website that it has been flipped the way you see when i post it.

If you download NASAview and chase up the orginal raw images you will see what i mean.
What is this face on Moon investigation. Is it a small scale object or do you mean the face we see when we look from Earth. I have often thought about that if that is the case in question. Isnt it odd that it looks like we are being watched from afar.

The Watcher.... nice choice of name, another coincidence or calculated?? lol
I have tried to look at as many raw images as possible but the face and features only appear from our distance, from the close perspective even the areas that make up the facial features cant be distinguished. odd??



Thats interesting.. Hi.. back from work but a few seconds spare. The head (avatar) has a full torso and arms which cemented its orientation. I guess like in space Whats up could be down and vis versa. Its an impoetantnt part of how we (as humans) negotiate the world. Just imagine a place where that isnt important. Gravity is 38% less than that of earth, so construction really could be a lot larger. How they construct structures will in some cases be radically different from us. The orbiting cameras angle of shot has no rules of up and down until Nasa releases its final image. then we lock onto it but as you can see in this forum and others people are starting to change the way the look at images.

I will have a look at raw images and look forward to being enlightened further on your structures.

How detail is picked up? A long story but Harry showed me the basics. The untold rule is.. all photographs have layers.. jpgs, gifs ( exclude vectored images).  In those layers are locked the finer details.. Tampering is just another layer (in some cases). Depending on conditions details can be brought back with a degree of loss.

EG

faet.jpg

The more heavily treated areas are more blurry (ie central area of structure). But there are still bits of data giving a hint of whats was there. Ive tried on the castle by Hoagland.. Mars face and many other anomalies.. Nearly all have a different story to tell or more detail to enhance the find.



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Even more interesting in regard to your avater, you notive it looks similar but upside down, well the original raw image is actually upside down, like your avatar. It was only when it was processed and put on the mssc website that it has been flipped the way you see when i post it.

If you download NASAview and chase up the orginal raw images you will see what i mean.
What is this face on Moon investigation. Is it a small scale object or do you mean the face we see when we look from Earth. I have often thought about that if that is the case in question. Isnt it odd that it looks like we are being watched from afar.

The Watcher.... nice choice of name, another coincidence or calculated?? lol
I have tried to look at as many raw images as possible but the face and features only appear from our distance, from the close perspective even the areas that make up the facial features cant be distinguished. odd??

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Anyone else got any thoughts on the object? Also FYI i accidentally rated this topic, i wasnt sure what the stars were and clicked so apologies for that.

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Had to go abit further.. The detail of structures is quite impressive.  I believe The whole structure is standing up ! wow

3dtower.jpg

I found more detail around the top. It seems to curve back on itself. Zoom in for more detail. What a structure




 Nice enhancement, what did you do to clear up the image?



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Spooky coinserdance or maybe something...  My avatar was found on the lunar surface. It is around 30 cm in height. Now the arching top and similar eye positions really is interesting. The location of the  face on the moon is being withheld due to on going project with finder. sorry

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Had to go abit further.. The detail of structures is quite impressive.  I believe The whole structure is standing up ! wow

3dtower.jpg

I found more detail around the top. It seems to curve back on itself. Zoom in for more detail. What a structure

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One word..stunning.
Complex interlocking structures. Quite a find.  This structure jumped off the screen (for me)

dtrit.jpg)

Welcome, Great work!

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Hello All,

First post here, i have been posting over at ATS. I made an interesting find yesterday and wanted to share it as much as possible.
I have spent many many hours going through photo's of Mars ( surface and orbital ) and finding the usual strange objects and shifty looking areas :)

This one though has gotten me very excited and actually kept me up past 24 hours hmm

The object is on the very Western tip of Endeavour Crater. This i beleive is the highest resolution photo available so far which i will also provide the link for below. If using Google Mars you need to load the MOC images and view in a seperate browser to see the Hi res image but here is the direct link :

http://global-data.mars.asu.edu/moc/images/large/E0200373

It is toward the bottom of the image in the rocky area but i will also inlude some photos in this post, some original, some enhanced and some with the areas i thought were interesting highlighted.

I will start with a wide shot of Endeavour Crater and move in as the photo's progress.


Endeavour_Crater_2009-03-07.jpg



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Buildings%20or%20structures.jpg


Fullscreen%20capture%2019042010%2084602%20PM.jpg


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Anyone notice anything yet?? I'll get abit closer and outline certain areas below, also some images will also have inverted colour to show the area as well.

Building%20with%20caption.jpg



Building%20with%20caption%20inverted.jpg



Below is a high contrast shot:

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Some areas i have high lighted:

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building%20with%20highlights.jpg



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What does everyone think? I was up for almost 30 hours after finding this image trying to enhance and searcg for higher res images but i havent had luck so far.

This Crater is also the next stop for Opportunity Rover which should be intersting smile


When looking at the above images try to think 3D if you know what i mean. What first stood out to me was the clear square style archway or wall, there is also the circular platform in the center and what even looks like steps or a ramp leading up to it. Although if it is they would have to be quite big, on the same scale as some ancient temples we have here.

Enjoy all and all feeback welcome smile and remember the original image link from NASA/JPL is at the top of this post but it is a big photo.

Cheers,

Havick

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