Alien Anomalies

masjosh · Member

RE: Mars Express and Beagle 2 failure

qmantoo · Teaching the truth

So... they have found the Beagle 2 and it was not destroyed completely. The guy who was running the project died last year unfortunately - before they found it. However, it seems that it may have failed in a minor way which stopped the antenna from deploying and preventing communications to Earth. Great shame - I hope they do another as it very nearly worked.

Link to BBC website

The missing Mars robot Beagle2 has been found on the surface of the Red Planet, apparently intact.
High-resolution images taken from orbit have identified its landing location, and it looks to be in one piece.
The UK-led probe tried to make a soft touchdown on the dusty world on Christmas Day, 2003, using parachutes and airbags - but no radio contact was ever made with the probe.
Many scientists assumed it had been destroyed in a high-velocity impact.
The new pictures, acquired by Nasa's Mars Reconnaissance Orbiter, give the lie to that notion, and hint at what really happened to the European mission.
Beagle's design incorporated a series of deployable "petals", on which were mounted its solar panels.

From the images, it seems that this system did not unfurl fully
Without full deployment, there is no way we could have communicated with it as the radio frequency antenna was under the solar panels, explained Prof Mark Sims, Beagle's mission manager from Leicester University.
The failure cause is pure speculation, but it could have been, and probably was, down to sheer bad luck - a heavy bounce perhaps distorting the structure as clearances on solar panel deployment weren't big; or a punctured and slowly leaking airbag not separating sufficiently from the lander, causing a hang-up in deployment he told BBC News

-- Edited by qmantoo on Saturday 17th of January 2015 12:59:53 AM

gbull · Veteran Member

lol, we are a joke!

what? you can't hit mars?

gbull · Veteran Member

does it make sense we have a 2 to 1 success to mars and from what i've seen, we got 100% at other moving targets like asteroids, comets, moons, flybys.

etc. wth?

qmantoo · Teaching the truth

It seems that this report -

Possible Evidence Found For Beagle 2 Location

from December 2005 does not satisfy them that this is the Beagle 2 on Mars. I wonder why or if this guy I emailed knows about it? Maybe I should ask him?

qmantoo · Teaching the truth

Surprisingly, I have got a reply to an email I sent to ESA and they have no idea where the Beagle 2 is, even after all this time no-one has found it. Perhaps it was shot down?

qmantoo · Teaching the truth

I have done a search and there does not seem to be a thread about this. I feel that there should be somewhere to place information on the Beagle and Mars Express and that people in the science community have conveniently forgotten about it. I also feel it is rather strange that there has been no definitive pictures of the remains or debris.

Mars Express
Mars Express spacecraft that delivered the Beagle2 successfully has just finished photographing Phobos in March 2010 and leaves the way clear for the Russian Grunt to land and take off again with samples.

Beagle2
Aparently they think that the Mars Express - Beagle2 landed(crashed) in Isidis Planitia in December 2003, ( wikipedia ) but have we got images of this area? Yes we have and it would be interesting to find the Beagle or debris from it in a current Mars orbiter photograph. According to this BBC article there is no wreckage despite attempts to locate it.

Some Beagle2 info and Isidis Planitia pictures
Pretty good pictures of the area
Aug 2005 Isidis Planitia
Beagle2 website http://www.beagle2.com/index.htm

pictures of the crash site / landing site but no crash debris?
02-Feb-04 17:00 GMT
11Feb2004

NASA very nicely provided some photographs and something that they say is Beagle2. Is it likely that it would remain in one piece? I dont know, but if it did, then we should be able to see it perhaps or even the parachutes?

A specially processed NASA Mars Global Surveyor (MGS) image taken by the Mars Orbiter Camera (MOC). The Beagle scientists believe that out of the many thousands of craters and hundreds of square kilometres of Beagle 2’s landing ellipse, no other candidate site has come close to providing such compelling evidence of Beagle’s landing.
Impact ejecta can be seen similar to the one produced by MER-A’s front shield in the Bonneville crater and a cluster of symmetrically arranged objects that match a successful gas bag segment separation, dropping the lander to the ground.

The Beagle Team's report
<<The report was submitted to the UK Minister for Science and Innovation and the Director General of ESA on 21 April and accepted. No single technical failure or shortcoming was unambiguously identified but a few credible causes for Beagle 2 loss were highlighted. More importantly, the Board made it clear that there were programmatic and organisational reasons that significantly increased the risk of Beagle 2 failure.

The outcome of the review carried out by the Commission of Inquiry is summarized in 19 recommendations to the British Authorities and ESA. These constitute the basis of lessons learned for the future. Both parties have accepted them fully. ESA will undertake a course of action to ensure their implementation. >>

Knowing what I know I would not be surprised if the ESA rover was sabotaged in case the Europeans let the cat out of the bag, It would be easy to place a virus into the operating system of a satellite/rover to be activated when it receives a particular command or unless it receives a particular command but that is just another conspiracy theory...
We will see what happens to the next rover that ESA send to Mars or the Moon.