Alien Anomalies

Agreed, Papadipongo. You are doing a fantastic job!!! And this forum here is amazing, enabling regular people like us to bring our evidence to others interested in the topic for scrutiny. Don't worry, we know you are sincere!!! Hang in there and good work!!!

ARP2

Papa, do not lose heart. We understand exactly what you are saying when you post. WE know that you are doing your work, like all of us, on your own and to the best of your abilities and WE do not believe for one minute that you are manipulating images to create anomalies. You are trying to share what you are finding so that WE can all talk about it. We are not scientists or specialists, I think most of us are just normal people noticing things that worry us and wanting to do what we can to change things. WE appreciate the work you are doing !

for Winston

areal view ( look also around... )

By caforio at 2009-07-05

focus on the lines ( notice the structure shape )

By caforio at 2009-07-05

zoom 1 ( first plane )

By caforio at 2009-04-25

zoom 2 ( notice the structure shape )

By caforio at 2009-04-25

zoom 3 ( notice mechanical junctions )

By caforio at 2009-06-27

i hope u see it now Winston..

m image without colour added, just a little change of brightness and contrast respect to he original i downloaded from esa's website



By caforio at 2009-04-28

thx humanoid
i tried gimp but it's inferior to microsoft pic manager ( the program i used for these images )
whatever it has tools that may be useful as the contrast mask, to perform better the images
i think i will be forced to pay the full version of mic pic manager, i had only a free time limited demo

papadipongo wrote:

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seems that a couple of my images have been deleted
deleted here and in the image-sharing website

i will post em again, and all life long if necessary

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Hi papa, not sure what you mean by missing images being deleted? I did move your posts to the relevant topic (I did PM & email you about this), please let me know what is missing and I will look into it.

 

By caforio at 2009-06-27

"cigar & boiler"

thx rblewis in effect some artifacts i spotted are good
i ask myself: why i never seen before the disc-parabola or the others in any video or website with a topic concerning the Hale crater images?
it's strange as they have been deeply analized...
i hope skipper can see them if he yet did'nt found em
i would be happy if someone with the right instruments would be so nice to process these images with a seriuos graphic program
whatever something tell me that skipper yet spotted this stuff that will be relased with the "warfare evdiences" category
keep present that the results i obtained come from a basic program, with a seriuos program they can be a bomb

the structure u found can be a compression artifact, as far as i know, whatever i can't be sure i should analyze it
considering how appears the ground around the artifact it could be something of intresting.

bad astronomy guys aren't avliable to admit thah some sightings are clealry abnormal and not rliable to standard compression artifact "random"

whatever i recived a message of solidariety from a senior member convinced as me of the anormality of some sightings ; sadly, again a private message, like if we should feel shame for our opinions

this the effect i was talikng about in the last post
doesn't count the quantity, but the quality, or also the intresting sightings are simply ignored
they simply pointed to example of standard pixel artifacts as in the example in my last post, resolving the question without asking themselves why for example the disc is orientated at the right angle respect the point of view and its form is at least absurd for a standard compression artifacts

whatever they are so educated that i preferred give it up in a good way
whitout to think also for a second to give it up with the visual research of anomlies not reliable to the standard.. ;)

i'm not discouraged
also i don't care from the opinions

only the facts count

i agree with skipper about a possible data manipulation
i think it's possible some artifacts have been "exagerated" in some images as they really look too much strange as the ones posted here
also it seems to me some areas are like airbrushed

also, i want to leave open the ipotesis something strange is really up there

but we must be very selective : http://www.bautforum.com/attachments/conspiracy-theories/10022d1241008422-hale-crater-esas-images-ord.jpg
look to this example ; it's just a river i think but we can see artifacts like many of the artifacs on hale crater's images

obviuosly, i still think that sightings like the 2 silos, the disc, and other ones i see on the web ( also in the moon ) are indeed anomalies not standard and at least not random
but we need to be very selective or the sceptics will have an easy work to debunk all, deleting also appreciable results that would deserve to be showed that will be ignored and confused with sightings of "low quality"
i think this can be an error that skipper do, whatever i have respect of his work as he ispired this intrest to me..and i believe a part of his images are really really intresting

just to make some lols
here is an example of the arguments of the worst sceptics
my comments ae between the arrows

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Sorry, no...I don't see any "abnormally raised" anything...

>well wear ur grandfather's glasses man<

...and if you can't bring yourself to use the word "you" instead of "u" then you will be ignored. (at least by me.)

><

hahhahahaahahahahha

papadipongo wrote:

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hey if u are in contact with Skipper signal him this post cause i'd like if he will add the disc-parabola and the rest he find intresting in his research
i yet tried but without results to contatct him

i think that the disc and the 2 silos deserve to be added and i can't find em in his images so tell him to feel free to add em

i want this stuff spread everywhere
it's too funny to listen the sceptics to explain this stuff with supposed "random compression artifacts"

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I am not in personal contact with Mr Skipper at the moment, he is a very busy person, and as he has stated "he receives an huge amount of email and images and does not have time to answer them all" (His site has gained a great deal of interest over the past 18 months), I am sure if you have sent him the information he will of looked at it, and who knows he may get time to reply at a later date.

I am still tweaking the forum and at the moment most of the boards can only be read by registered members, my reasoning behind this, was the privacy and limited copy right of members postings, but I have had several emails requesting to open the boards ro read only which I am concidering (Although I will not open the forum to anonymous posting as it would be a nightmare to moderate).

 

I understand and support you wanting to spread yours and others findings to everyone, but the secrecy machine is huge, and most people accept the establishments evidence and viewpoint before understanding the alternative evidence we put before them, most people have after all been indoctrinated into not questioning the establishment (and even think they wouldn't lie to them), but we are slowly opening the closed minds (even some in science have noticed the manipulation of data), but it will take a little longer until the secrecy machine has fallen

 

By caforio at 2009-04-28

another one beautiful shot

donno what is that in the red circle, it can seem a rock at a first watch, but look the "bouncing" sphere on it

this could be aother relict

also as rock, it has a strange form and seems to be done of something of different from the rest fo the surface, like the strange rock crashed in the crater i posted before

This is another one that is stumping me, I can't help thinking the "cigarette" belongs to to the brighter rock feature to the upper right, plus it reminds me of Mr skippers findings "Huge nozzle".....  report #029
Report #029Report #029

Not sure about this image as it seems geological, the impactor seems to of hit at an angle creating the splash effect, and the elongated crest in the center of the crater, I also noticed the bottom half of the crater image is made from a separate mosaic.

While playing around with the contrast colour etc.. I looked to the left of center of the crater and I noticed a strange rectangular shape, unfortunatly I can't get the image to download to the site, but if you bring the contrast down you will see it.

By caforio at 2009-04-26


for example i see somthing strange inside this "little" ( sevreal km of radius at a first look, but 'm not used to work with distances and numbers and  proportions )

there is something that it's difficult to focus on, and this is also due to the "bouncing" effect that trick the eye giving the impression of a big rock
instead it's clearly a crater, as showed in this image that has been rotated from his original orientation in the esa's image

i think can be a craft shooted down

or a very very strange rock....

Thank you, I can see the artifacts and the disc more clearer now the image is expanded (it does not look like a crater now), The structures do seem to have a geometric logic about them, and the more you look at the image the more you see, which raises the questions....Are they naturaly geological features or artificial?

I feel it is unlikely to be geological, as the shapes (or structures) are too uniform to be made by erosion or glaciation, I feel the shapes are made in a way for pupose, and as for the disc, it seems to be above from the surface at about a 70 degree angle, and even has a shadow (center left of the reflective dome), which raises the question are we looking at something artificial and still in use? if so then we have the reasoning as to why the image would be tampered with in the first place

I think you may have stumbled on to something quite important here, and I hope others will join in this thread.

try to look to my little images zooming em
it cannot be a crater
i will try to post an enlarged version but i'm not pratic of pc

ok let's see
behind the disc there is a sort of metal reflecting pattern that could be normal pixel artifacts, that can obstacle a clear vision ; i cutted it

By caforio at 2009-04-25

red circle ; disc-parabola
green lines ; structure attached
orange circle ; one turret, and maybe a second turret behind the one in first plane

the problem is that pixel artifact arise in different ways, it's the type of surface that makes the difference
in areas of "low entropy" u have an uniform surface, like the send of a desert or a crater : an area of low entropy can be compressed
imagine an area at low entropy as a streak of letters uniform and similar

an example easy to understand
low entropy area : AAAAA
it can be compressed and rapresented with : 5A

instead an area at "high entropy" is a surface not uniform, like rocks and mountains

high entropy area : GHJKL
it cannot  be compressed but just rapresented with : GHJKL

so it's perfectly normal that rocky areas are unaffected or heavily less affected by pixel artifacts

whatever i feel to fix some points
1. pixel artifacts and related illusions are anormally rised in the ESA's images of Hale Crater ; actually i didn't see anything else similar in other images
yes, i see pixel artifacts , but miles far away from the definition of the images we are talkin about
so there is the possibility that these images can be doctored by ESA ( don't ask me why )
2.some artifact appears to have a strange geometric logic like the disc-parabola i assure u can see easily watching carefully my images
some forms are indeed different from standard pixel artifacts, that for their nature arise in fix ways
pixel artifacts can be  also vertical for example, giving the illusion of a tower airbrushed, but thay can't give illusion so complicated like this