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Levelwind. Thanks for your comment.

You're right about the links. Now, they both bring up the same page. Seems funny that when I clicked on the original link I was redirected to that site. Maybe, it was something to do with what is showing in the DoD Clementine images that the current powers that be do not want people to see.

Here is another animation that shows distinctly the object detail that is forming the crater shapes.

Note that the NASA LROC view of the same location, as seen above, does not display this amazing image object detail. It's as though a special algorithm is being used to remove all traces of the recognizable object detail that they don't want anyone to see otherwise people will start to think that the moon is inhabited, which I think it is. 

I know the object detail we can observe in the clear view is a true representation of what is on the surface as I managed to reverse-process the original obfuscated image as was able to reproduce the same objects, although not as clear, of the object detail that is forming the crater shapes.

What a very clever deception on the part of the lunarians!  

 

 

 



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Hey Timewarp, nice work on the images.  I used to love showing folks these pictures when the original site was up and running.

Then about 10 or 11 years ago the Navy updated the photos and they no longer had the blatant smears.  Anyways, I clicked on both 

of the links and they both go to the same page>( the living moon site)?  Maybe the FBI is messing with youbiggrin.  Here's a link to how they look now>>>>

http://www.nrl.navy.mil/clementine/image-gallery

It's too bad they have to hide stuff like this.



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The reference link given above where the flattened Clementine view can be found now redirects to the FBI homepage. ???

Here is the new reference link for the Clementine image that contains the obfuscation smudge.

http://www.thelivingmoon.com/43ancients/41Group_Lunar_FYEO/02files/FYEO_Lunar_03.html



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The animation shown in the last post contains two views of the exactly the same location.

One image is from the 1994 Clementine mission and the other is a recent screen capture using the Quick Map application.

There are vast differences between the two images so one of them has to be a hoax.

Which one of the two views do you think is a false representation?

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The two images used for the animation seen below were captured twenty years apart.

The crater shape seen in the centre of the views is Dawson V and the lower large crater shape is Zeeman.

The view showing the huge amount of object detail is a Clementine capture and the other image is a LROC capture.

It would appear there is something missing in the LROC view. Where is all the object detail that we can see in the Clementine view?

The Clementine mission was commissioned by the US Navy and the Department of Defense whereas NASA/JPL are responsible for the LROC QuickMap view.

Do you have any thoughts on this discrepancy or could it possibly be that a special algorithm is being used to remove object detail from the LROC views?

I am more inclined to think that the Clementine image is the genuine version.  I would hate to think that a deception could be going on here. What do you think?

 



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Sometimes the animation seen above does not load correctly and only show the small box with a cross in it.

Provided here is a side-by-side version of the same images so a direct comparison can be made.

Note the structural formations and the grid-like layout.

 

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If at any time you find that an image is not showing except a small box with a cross in it.

Right-click over the box and select 'Show Picture' from the drop-down menu and the image should appear.

 

 

 



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The first image posted in the thread contains area of a Clementine image that is blurred out. The blur was obviously applied to obscure something on the lunar terrain.

Many seasoned researchers have tried to determine exactly what is underneath the blur, but without much success. There have even been suggestions that the obfuscation is covering a very large object. I have been able to determine that there is no large object under the blur but what the blur is covering is a large black area surrounded by many other structural-like objects.

Could it possibly be that the large black area is water and this was the original reason why the area had to be obscured?

We now know from other views posted in the thread that there are many structural shapes showing.

The animation shown below displays the detail of what is under the blurred out area.

 

 

 



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I have added this animation so comparisons can be made between the flattened version and the adjusted version.

The view shows the deliberate obfuscation but I would ask viewers to disregard this as it is of no consequence.

I have always maintained that a great deal of the object detail on the surface of the moon is artificial.

Just look at the shapes that are forming the crater rims and you will understand what I mean.

There are a huge number of structural shapes and other formations showing in the view.

Thanks Clementine for capturing these views. Best to view with an optical magnifier.

 

 



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G,  Thanks for your comments. I have always wondered about the objects you have arrowed.

They could be something to do with mining activity, whether surface or underground would be purely speculative.

I can see why they flattened the image. The answer lies in the smaller object detail and the areas of what could be water. Lakes perhaps?

The blurring effect is to divert viewers attention away from the real object detail showing in the image.

 

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Hi Timewarp I have always been fascinated by these images. I remember looking closely at them many moon's ago. They are some of the images that sort of got me interested in the first place. I was always a little surprised that no one mentioned the long straight structures appearing in the back ground to the upper left along with even more blurring but this is on a lesser scale than the tower. These are very visible but I've yet to see an explanation of these anomalies either way. The long structures must be miles long and although there are no shadows they seem to almost float above the surface at different point along their length.

Do you think this may be some sort of jigsaw?. I'm going to see if I can work out exactly where this all is on a map. Interested in your thoughts on these.

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The image shown below is another example of a Clementine flattened view that contains blatant and deliberate obfuscation. I don't know why the image handlers bothered as they are only covering up valuable object detail on the surface. The flattening of the original and the inclusion of the blur creates the impression in the mind of the viewer that there is a large tall object in the view when in reality there is no such object.

Two images are shown below. The first is the view released into the public domain showing the blatant obfuscation.

In the second image, I have increased the contrast by a considerable degree and made an attempt to sharpen the image.

 

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Timewarp wrote:

The big question is, where did this species come from originally and what do they look like?

Could they have human form or an alien-like appearance? I think the former is more probable. What do you think?

 

*TW, That is why we do what we do. I hope that someday we find a clue that leads us to the truth that NASA and the world governments keep from us. A clue that can help us learn the truth of our origin and the history of human beings and our universe. The beings that built those structures on the moon is anybody's guess. They could be from within our solar system, Mars, Venus, or even Earth. They could be from somewhere else within the galaxy, or even the universe. We can't understand technology we have never seen. All options are on the table, even the possibility that the moon isn't a planet at all, but a hollow satellite occupied by unknowns who monitor us, our evolution, our developments etc. Perhaps even coalition of Alien and Earthlings, who knows..  

Personally, I would like to think that the structures on the moon are from an ancient alien species whom have moved on, and left a world for us to explore and learn. We as humans are explorers, like we do every time we scan the images at our computers looking for alien anomalies. Some of the structures we find seem to have steam or smoke billowing out of them, which in turn would mean that they are currently occupied... Here comes the question again... By whom?

God I wish we weren't lied to anymore. 


 



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The image below I have lightened slightly. Usually, I would never recommend squinting at images, but for this image give it a try if only for a short period.

If you do, you will probably notice that this eye action creates a virtual 3D effect and gives a degree of depth to a 2D view, especially with this particular image. You will also notice that the structures in the upper left section of the view are of a block formation and these buildings are quite large. Also, observe the small crater-like shape to the left where the layout of the structures becomes quite obvious when performing this action. The layout of the structures and the infrastructure shows up well.

I get the impression that there is an atmosphere surrounding the moon that is very shallow compared to the atmosphere on this planet. How else would it be possible for all these structures to be constructed unless they were assembled in kit form, which I do not think likely? It would appear from all the circular pits on the surface of the moon that a great deal of mining has been taking place over a long period of time probably to secure the raw materials needed for construction purposes.

The structural evidence showing in this image proves that someone is in residence and they are there and in large numbers.

The big question is, where did this species come from originally and what do they look like?

Could they have human form or an alien-like appearance? I think the former is more probable. What do you think?

 

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If you're not convinced the shapes showing are structures, see if you can spot the towers and pitched roofs in this image.

 

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Many of these objects have the appearance of built structures.

If that's the case, how were they built in a vacuum?

Is there an atmosphere surrounding the moon?

 

Edit: I have noticed that by squinting at the image sure brings the object detail to life.

 

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Further back in the thread you will see my attempt to enhance the flattened view with obfuscated area that was released into the public domain.

This animation shows that the clearer view has to be the captured original when comparing it with my enhancement of the flattened view.

How many other captured originals were deliberately flattened to create the impression that there is nothing to see on the lunar surface?

Why would the DoD and the US Navy want to interfere with such valuable lunar image data?

 

 



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When looking at the above image try squinting at the view. It is interesting how the object detail appears to improve. 

You will probably notice the block-like structural formations showing in the upper left area of the image.

This image is a pseudo-3D version. I have included it as some of the object detail can be seen slightly clearer.

 

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This view is a crop of the top section of the main clear image and gives us a good idea of the layout of the recognizable objects.

In the past, I have received derogatory comments when I claimed that there are built structures on the moon. At this particular location it is plain to see that there are many structures on the surface and these objects cannot be rocks or boulders. The object detail seen in the view is very real, but I have to ask why have we heard nothing about this kind of object detail from the space or scientific institutions? Is it a case that they don't want us to know what's really on the moon? 

The flattened and modified image has been around for a good many years and many researchers were led to believe that the obfuscation was covering a sizeable object when in fact what it is really hiding is a large area of water. The original view only came to light recently and it was sheer chance I came across it whilst looking for something else. Since the uploading of the image to this forum it has been removed from the website that hosted it. Now, I wonder why it was promptly removed from the site. Anyway, now the original image is available for other researchers to examine in detail.

Note the grid-like formation and how the structures are aligned.

 

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Thanks for re-visiting this TW. Very good clarity in that pic, not sure what software was used. I remember doing these pics when I first saw Skippers site. This was what I came up with using Photoshop layering (10 layers). Not as sharp but basically the same thing. As for your query on how they were built, I would conjecture they might have been assembled from very large pre packaged parts or maybe even landed there in one piece with unknown power and tech. This is not the work of Terrestrial Humans. 

 

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masjosh said, "It is fascinating." I would totally agree with that statement but would go one step further.

I would say that it is a brilliant visual manifestation of a reluctant truth that was totally secured by chance.

It's taken a long time to find some real positive evidence which demonstrates that truth does have 'protective layers'.

This close negative image strip view shown below gives us some good clues as to lunar infrastructure and architectural design.

Note that many of the structural formations seem interlinked with many showing the distinctive 'hump' on their roofs.

I have colourized some of the structural shapes so the viewer knows what to look for when carrying out any lunar research.

 

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masjosh. Many thanks for your comments.

It was sheer luck I was able to download this particular image as within 7 days of posting it on this forum it had disappeared.

I have searched for it elsewhere without success but I suspect it is contained in an image catalogue containing similar views.

Below is a real close up view of the area that was obfuscated as seen in the flattened image

I think the large black area is a large lake. I have colourized what appears to be an island that has some structures on it.

Note the other recognizable shapes on the surrounding terrain. We are told there is nothing on the moon. Who is kidding who?

 

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TW, Have you ever seen Alex Colliers moon presentation? He discusses in detail the smudged photo's from the clementine mission. It's worth watching. I would like to learn more about the enhanced image, if it is the original, why are we just seeing it now? It is fascinating and I hope we can dig up more info on it. Great work!

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This animation shows the images in the correct sequence. I always thought the modified image looked like a fake.

After investigating the image I thought was an enhancement I can now conclude that it is the original capture.  

This original image has been flattened and obfuscated on purpose to create something completely different.

The wool has been pulled over our eyes and it's not just with this particular image, but many other images as well.

Now I can understand why the 'enhanced' image was promptly removed from the website I downloaded it from.

The true original image shouldn't have been posted on the website in the first place, only the fake image.

A big slip-up was made and someone wanted the image promptly removed before anyone else noticed.

 

 

 

 

 

 



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Why are we are being led to believe that the view showing the 'hidden' area is the original capture anyway?

After investigating what I thought was an enhanced version turns out to be something quite remarkable.

I can now see that what appeared to be an enhanced image could well be the true original and not what we are being led to believe is the original.

I have examined this particular image in some considerable detail and can find no evidence of any attempt to smear or obfuscate anything.

This can mean only one thing. The so-called enhanced view is the true original and not the flattened version showing the smeared-out area.

Why obfuscate the area in the first place? I think the reason is that the black area showing in the true version is a very large area of water.

In fact, I think the smear is covering over a large lake which is surrounded by many structures and some are within the area of the lake itself.

Here is the view I examined to look for evidence of smearing and also to look for any evidence of alteration or modification near the smear area.

So ask yourself, how was I able to download an image that I took to be an enhanced version when now, within 7 days, the image has mysteriously disappeared?

I have to say that this is one of the clearest images I have observed of lunar object detail and that is why I think it is the original view.

It's just too clear to be an enhancement as much of the object detail on the surface is easily recognizable.

 

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I have to say that whoever produced the enhanced view as seen above made a very good job in bringing out the object detail.

The image shown below is my own enhanced version from the original as seen in the first post and is very similar to the downloaded enhanced version.

Producing this image shows that many of the images that appear to be 'flat' can be improved to show up detail which would otherwise remain obscured.

In my version the smeared out large anomaly looks like it may be an industrial complex with a very large tank attached.

The main question is, why was it necessary to deny the viewer the pleasure of observing what the object is in the first place?

Have a look and see what you make of it. What do you think the anomalous object could be?

 

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qmantoo, The link where the original flattened view with the smeared out large object is given below. Scroll down to Image no. 5. 

As both views were 768x768 pixels, I thought this would be the ideal size to produce and animation which can be seen above. The original view and the enhanced version were downloaded on the same day two minutes apart (Sat -23 Jan. 2016). But today, on returning to the same website I have noticed that the enhanced version of image no.5 has been removed. It makes me wonder why the enhanced image all of a sudden has been removed from that particular website.

The enhanced view and the original were displayed for a long time and all of a sudden, within the last 7 days, the enhanced version has been removed. It would appear that someone doesn't want us to observe the recognizable object detail as can be seen in the enhanced view shown above.

The coordinates of the view are as follows:

Lat:  70;  Long:  137:

http://www.thelivingmoon.com/43ancients/41Group_Lunar_FYEO/02files/FYEO_Lunar_03.html

 



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Please can we have some links to the originals. Not that I am doubting your word but it is always easier for us if the poster gives us links.
As you know, some of us like to download the original and see what else there is to see.
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Here is a very close view of the upper left section as seen in the main image.

The view shows there are many structures on the surface and I have colourized some of them.

These structures have been constructed on the surface and this is just in one location.

Can you believe that these objects were constructed in a vacuum?

Notice the towers and dome-shaped objects that are on top of the base structures.

Comments and observations always welcome.

 

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The image below is a pseudo-3D view and shows that we should never believe everything we are being told by the powers that be.

It's obvious from looking at the images of this location that someone has been building many structures over a period of time.

So, when people say that there is nothing on the moon except rocks and redundant hardware, you can now say that you have seen otherwise.

You will need a pair of red/blue glasses to view the image. This image shows the object detail quite well considering the quality of the enhanced image.

If this object detail was being shown to me of somewhere on this planet I would say that what I was looking at is a town or city with many buildings.

 

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Still with the enhanced negative version, I have colourized some of the smaller objects that appear to me as being built structures.

The Clemetine mission was not a NASA operation. It was commissioned by the US Navy in conjunction with the Department of Defense.

Many thousands of good quality images were captured during the mission but only a small number were released into the public domain.

One has to ask why the DoD would be interested in mapping the moon in high quality years after the last Apollo mission.

If there is a supply of water at the poles, then the moon can support life and the image below proves that someone could well be living on the moon.

Note how many of the structures seem to be interlinked. Many are displaying a small dome-shaped construction on top of the structure.

Do you have any views as to what the large central object could be?

 

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Two images are shown below. They are both negative versions.

I have colourized the anomalous area that was tampered with in the original flattened image.

The second view is a close up of the object and shows the detail.

I may be wrong but the large object(s) gives the impression that it may be a large processing plant of some description. Water perhaps?

Take note of the many other interesting shapes that surround the large featured object.

 

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For anyone who would like to examine the objects in detail, here is the still version which I have darkened slightly.

 

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Notice that the central obscured object is now showing, but look at all the other object detail in the rest of the view.

I get the impression that I was right in saying there is an atmosphere on the moon.

How else could these structures have been built on the lunar surface in an atmosphere that we are told is a vacuum?

Note the layout of the infrastructure and the buildings. Some of the structures in the distance are very plain to see.



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The view seen below is one of the Clementine image captures that was released into the public domain.

I have circled a feature that gives one the impression that the image has been deliberately altered. But why and what is the obfuscation hiding?

Well, I have news for you. Not only was this object deliberately blurred out but the rest of the image has been intentionally interfered with as well.

So what kind of deception is going on here and what could possibly be the reason for it? Well folks, I think I've found a visual answer to the question.

The capture appears to be a low-definition image, but whilst the circled object was blurred out the image handlers forgot that the rest of the image detail still remains.

This is unusual as the images captured during this particular mission were supposed to be high-definition for mapping and not poor quality views.

 

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In the next post you will find an animation of the original view and the enhanced view for comparison purposes.

I hope you are sitting comfortably as I think you will be very surprised at what can be observed.



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