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I think you're taking this into areas of ambiguity. It depends upon what scale you are looking for life.I understand what you are saying but I don't think we can go there yet, we just aren't ready for it.

My first post in this thread was to highlight where NASA's powers that be have shown us something but taken the attention away from it by highlighting another area of the image. We know the Curiosity's size and to find life that we can interact with we have to look for common ground, unspoken language of expression and communication. The use of structural material and the design elements in many of the RAW images do show that even if there are no humans there now there have been people who used similar methods of creating things such as basket work, weaving, combining materials, decoration and design to ours.

We don't communicate with other life forms on our own planet, to do so on the scale you show here is getting into the dimensional physics of reality.

I am an abductee and a dreamer, I was once told in a dream that there was something I had to see. The dream reality where I was and the people I was with began to grow smaller until they became like grains of sand and a new dream scene of a child was there as the sand fell from the child to the ground. The dream scene continued to rise and the child also became sand and this happened several times over with different realities appearing, My dream guide gently told me it's like the layers of an onion.



-- Edited by Sapa on Sunday 26th of October 2014 01:13:00 PM

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Sapa. There are many objects showing that would appear to be intelligently made and the detail showing in your crop is no exception.

Here is my version of your crop with some highlighted features. The brightness has been reduced and the colour saturation increased by 25%.

The 'stripes' show up very well, whatever they are. Also, some of the very tiny object detail can be observed.

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This is a very small segment from the top right corner of the same RAW image. I have also white balanced this one.. There is on this detail another object that is not being advertised by the MSL Curiosity team. (They did feature this whole image about the silicates it contains but didn't mention anything else.)

This detail can be found by enlarging the RAW image and looking for the 3 small bright pink spots on the original as they point to it.

I don't know  what it is without actually picking it up. To me it looks intelligently made. It doesn't look like a trick of the light, or stray pixels and it has no stripes although it is vertically parallel with the striped face of the stone below that I originally featured. The arrow is my addition because it's hard to spot.

My point is that I can only give my opinion about this object but the patterned rock is another matter. That stripy stone incorporates a common design element that we humans share and can reproduce. The pattern doesn't run horizontally or vertically across the image but it follows the angle of the rock itself. It also warns anyone walking towards it that there is a step. It attracts attention, performs a function in a language universal to hominids.

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I doubt it, here's an enlarged detail that I've white balanced for you.

 

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I think the stripes you have noticed are a product of digital image processing which I agree has nothing to do with the images I uploaded. The point I am making is that Curiosity does not discriminate when it comes to using the on board tools to work the surface of a selected target area. When an area of a rock is selected for some work to be carried out the minute object detail on the surface is not taken into account. There is a huge number of very small objects on the surface of this particular rock surface that are not being noticed and that's why I posted the close up views. If these very small objects were noticed by the Curiosity team it would appear that their scientific relevance is being disregarded. Sorry if the images I posted is drifting from your original observation.



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I can't see the relevance between this and stripes. Would you mind defining this please? Curiosity does have drills and other investigative equipment but I don't think she's armed with a bucket of paint, a straight edge and a brush.

 



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The images shown below are from one of the MAHLI images for this sol.

I have managed to sharpen the views and have increased the colour saturation by 25%. The brightness and contrast have also been adjusted.

To view the finer surface detail you will have to zoom in by 50 to 100%.

Take note of the infrastructure showing on the surface and the very small object detail.

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When viewing this set of MAHLI images the viewer is presented with what appears to be some surface brushing of a rock by one of the tools on board Curiosity. What most viewers tend to overlook is the very fine detail that is on the rock's surface. As there are a couple of really close images to examine at this location the seasoned observer will be able to recognize that there is more to see than what appears to be a rough surface texture. I have had a very close look at the MAHLI images for this sol and there are shapes and formations to see that are clearly recognizable but to see what is really there I had to zoom in by 300 to 400%.

My own personal view is that we will probably have to be very lucky to observe any objects or other features that are anywhere near human-sized. Most of the objects I have come across have been very small with the majority of them being much smaller than the small rocks that are scattered all over the surface of the planet. I will post some close images of what I have found later.



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Thank you too for replying. The Mars images are just a source of bewilderment to me. I honestly don't know if NASA want us to play hide and seek or if they are deliberately misleading us. I wonder quite often if they really are there at all. I must admit that I can't see how they can continue to say that Mars is a planet that's never been inhabited when they publish so many images that clearly show evidence of not only life but life that we can identify with and people who shared our habits, creative and technical abilities such as pottery, weaving, metalwork etc. I graduated in Archaeology and Prehistory and the finds on Earth are similar to many of the ones pictured on Mars. Fishing out details that I spot in the images from all the interference, colour-washing, noise, disjunction of image parts is ridiculous for the technical genius that is supposed to be present in a nuclear powered robot.



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Thank you for clarifying that picture. I could not see the variation in color before because I was not looking closely enough at it. Personally I do not see any other explanation for the uniform nature of the discoloration than that it is not natural. This is exactly the reason that I use color to highlight what I believe are anomalies in most photos I post. So there is no doubt what and where I am attempting to point out.

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Xenon, gmantoo,

My point is that the rock is part of a decorated functional structure. This is apparent for several reasons and I would like to draw your attention to a few features of interest.. This isn't a comprehensive list. Yes it is rock/ stone, there's no doubt about that, so are many structures made by humans here on Earth.

 

1 Decoration of surface:

It is painted in a recognisable pattern.

The areas of applied colour are only to the surface of the piece of stone.

There is a good cross section at the top.

The paint covers small granules attached to the surface. The stone was still quite rough when it was painted.

There are places where the paint has weathered, the granules have worn away and the stone is visible underneath.

The colour is not the same colour of any surrounding rocks.

Only the weathered patches are natural colour.

I have never seen any naturally occurring rock like this either on the Earth or on the NASA images.

I have seen many patterns in rocks but never vertical, uniform lines of contrasting colour.

Although the colour is not evident in any surrounding material, the rough surface has small irregularities matching the pattern of the stripes.

equalised.png      EQUALISED COLOUR

2 Structure:

It is intentionally set into the adjacent material:

That it isn't part of the surroundings is evident from the top edge where the dividing line is clearly visible.

It retains the adjacent material, so performs a function that is structural.

None of the adjacent material is striped in contrasting colours.

The top edge where horizontal meets vertical is a perfect 90 degrees, the stone was dressed before being set and painted.

The edge set into the adjacent material is uneven and irregular in comparison with the painted surface on the vertical exposed side.

placement.png  PLACEMENT

 

3 The glass:

The "silicate" laid across the ground on the upper step and partially covered by soil is of a different composition.

The composition of the two materials is reminiscent of structures that have been made by intelligent beings, e.g. windows above walls.

Sand fused into glass occurs at high temperature, there is no burning of the surrounding material.

There are cracks in the silicate spreading away from the oval clearance.

cracks.png   CRACKS RUN ACROSS FROM OVAL CLEARANCE

There are scrapes and drill holes where Curiosity has investigated the silicate in the soil covered area surrounding the oval shape.

scraped.png  SCRAPED AREA OF SILICATE 

The oval shape has a circular bulge in the oval area cleared of soil by Curiosity. Bulges like this are common in decorative glass windows with convex areas here on Earth; glasses naturally formed do not usually have smooth surfaces of this type and decorative forms (crystal shapes are formed when cooling but not regular circular bulges).

circular_bulge.png  CIRCULAR BULGED RELIEF IN OVAL CLEARANCE

 



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Sorry Sapa  I Have to agree with Q on this one too, I know we are all geared up for disclosure and are looking for truths to back up our claims, but like the lions head posted by Harry12bar many years ago I too feel it is just rock



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I really hate it when - on another forum - people tell me that my anomalies are "just a rock' but truly this time, I do think this is just a rock. So, dismiss what I say as rubbish, I dont mind. I think that even I, would need more evidence that this is a rock painting or similar. Sorry to deflate your bubble.

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I put this in "geological" because it's a rock. It has been painted in stripes.

It looks like part of a construction. The stripes are decorative. They were painted by a person - species unknown- with conceptual understanding and communication skills similar to ours.

This section of the image is RAW and untouched from the original.

 

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The photograph was mentioned somewhere - (very very sorry but don't remember where) - as containing Silicates. That is because in the centre of the full image is Glass that is also decorative.

A large oval shape stands out in relief and has been cleared of sand by Curiosity: a crack on the bottom left of this oval shape shows it is part of a larger piece. Small clearance/ drill holes show where there are bits of the larger piece investigated.

 

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Image Source link : http://mars.jpl.nasa.gov/msl-raw-images/msss/00724/mhli/0724MH0001900010204411C00_DXXX.jpg



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