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I've found quite a few of these broken links on links I've posted on here, on YouTube and my blog. A few have completely disappeared but most of them are simply renamed and you have to search for them.



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http://mars.jpl.nasa.gov/msl/multimedia/raw/?rawid=0385MR1576003000E1_DXXX&s=385

This link from sol 385 does not work because the photo has been removed.

Thanks for pointing this out goggog, it must be importaint.

 



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Ok, same sol rear haz cam>>> http://mars.jpl.nasa.gov/msl-raw-images/proj/msl/redops/ods/surface/sol/00527/opgs/edr/rcam/RRB_444283017EDR_F0260000RHAZ00311M_.JPG

This is the first one in the series.  If you look at the very next one there are some sky anomalies too.  Then by the third they are all gone.

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I came across a video on youtube today ( https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jNaGs_1Y20g ) that reminded me of this thread.

I checked out the photos and agree it does look like the thing is floating.  You can see it in two different pictures.  There is also

some pretty heavy editing at the top of the pictures.  Reminds me of the work NASA did on the Dingo Gap photos.  They must

have had something huge to hide there.  It's the same fake dune covering.

http://mars.jpl.nasa.gov/msl-raw-images/proj/msl/redops/ods/surface/sol/00527/opgs/edr/ncam/NLB_444283183EDR_F0260000NCAM00251M_.JPG

http://mars.jpl.nasa.gov/msl-raw-images/proj/msl/redops/ods/surface/sol/00527/opgs/edr/ncam/NLB_444283159EDR_F0260000NCAM00251M_.JPG

http://mars.jpl.nasa.gov/msl-raw-images/proj/msl/redops/ods/surface/sol/00527/opgs/edr/ncam/NLB_444283128EDR_F0260000NCAM00251M_.JPG

 

These were all taken within seconds of each other and contain many other anomalies as well.

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0389MR1593044000E1_DXXX_detail.jpgfound on 0389MR1593044000E1_DXXX



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I just noticed I gave the wrong link for the one below, this is the right one>>>>> sol 370. 

http://mars.jpl.nasa.gov/msl-raw-images/proj/msl/redops/ods/surface/sol/00370/opgs/edr/rcam/RLB_430346071EDR_F0130292RHAZ00311M_.JPG



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I hear what you're saying Xenon it could be some kind of noise or interference and they have the fish eye effect too.  I just thought it was neat that on the same sol as Sapa's floating rock there was a saucer shaped thing in the sky.  I have seen lots of different shapes and specks on lenses but have never found anything with such a perfect flying saucer shape.  I know I get a little excited about this kind of stuff and jump to conclusions way too quick, but I did go through a bunch of the rear haz cams from before and after and can't find anything like it? confuse........... Yet.  Maybe there is one out there...........still looking. smile  Thanks for the feed back.



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Levelwind.... The images are very poor quality to work with, there does seem to be some interference shown by the white noise (Dots and blotches) throughout the image, the darker objects are grouped together in formation, and we have to ask if the darker objects are a result of what is causing the interference, or are the darker objects the cause of the interference, if you look at the top left of this image Spirit sol 659 we see a dark object without white noise, I have seen these type of anomalies in other images too, but I am sure we discussed this same subject on the forum several years back.

Giving more thought to our floating stones, a lot of our images show tracks leading to what looks to be half buried stones, but what if they are not stones but a life form, we know by the returned scientific data that Mars surface receives 1000 times less radiation than upper levels (because of a large column of carbon dioxide), even so surface creatures would still need protection (a hard shell is a good way), as for the floating stones, it is possible that lifeforms could levitate by creating and using a gas, but I should imagine their protective shell would have to be very light in order to gain lift.



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Here it is again the very next sol.  This is not a lens artifact either, it's not on any of the others.  All around sol 370 is just loaded with anomalies too.

RLB_430346071EDR_F0130292RHAZ00311M_.JPG

This one is a bit closer.

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some various filters if you want to see how it changes against the background

 

 

 



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The problem with the 21st century human psyche is that we are in denial about things flying in and falling from the sky.

Gone are the newspaper clippings that Charles Fort would have collected because people don't tell the papers anymore, or even allow themselves to remember

Raining frogs and insects does happen and I have personally witnessed a rain of frogs and I promise they had not been swept up from a pond. No pond debris, no tadpoles, no other bits.The old lady who also saw them said they often fall in that spot and they come from "Up there"

Anything that's in the sky has to be something we put there or it doesn't exist.We only believe in comets because they are visible to everyone at once.

People a century ago could see a ufo and talk about it. There's loads of documentation but now it's socially unacceptable and you can be sectioned and locked in a hospital as deranged. I am happy to say that when I was close to that for saying it to a doctor and was examined I was declared absolutely not psychotic. :)

There are things flying in the sky on Mars! There, I said it and now I have to build a barricade behind the door to keep the thought police out.

 



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Seeing these stones/dust on the lens has been really bugging me for some time, we see the surface is littered with stony looking objects in almost every image as though washed up of dropped from the sky, some images do show objects in the sky and it makes perfect sense that some/most could be debris on the lens, but some seem to have the same resolution as the background, it could be that there are stones falling from the sky be it meteorites or from some sort of volcanic event it is also possible that some may be lifeforms.



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The object from the one posted before is very clear and unchanging in different filters - I don't know if it's a bit of crap on the camera.

If you scroll down to the larger image, you'll see that this object does have a corresponding shadow.

There is another image with something similar here, first is the one already posted from 0344 and second is from 0385

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The shadow on the last 2 pictures does match the pale object above in the photograph.It has protrusions on the top that are in the shadow.

I filtered out a lot of the noise and smudges and don't think that this is one of those. Here are a couple of explanatory images.

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I think we may need to be careful we do not mistake a piece of crap on the lens for a floating object. Is it on the same lens in a different image around the same timeframe?
The other thing we need to realise is that NASA often seem to make smudges over sensitive areas which themselves look like shadows, darker areas or just plain areas without detail. I personally feel that the last couple of images may be showing both of these(smudging and crap on the lens). Of course, I could easily be wrong about this.

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another flying thing. saw it's shadow and at first thought it was a hole the thing's white so had to filter and sharpen

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This is a beauty found at http://mars.jpl.nasa.gov/msl/multimedia/raw/?rawid=0344MR1394003000E1_DXXX&s=034

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http://mars.jpl.nasa.gov/msl/multimedia/raw/?rawid=0385MR1576003000E1_DXXX&s=385

 

Can do it only "an iceberg top"? If differently, obvious "levitation" confusesmile

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Amazing, it really does look like it's levitating.  Nice work Sapa.wink 



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Hi Chandra,

Ye the original post was before I saw the thing in the later batch. I noticed those bumps that are also in the shadow on that first post and they are also on the one I pointed out in the later batch (the one I mean is the one I put a 1 next to) I also saw the dagger but didn't like saying because it seems impossible.

The large image I posted last post was just to demonstrate the details that are constant when different filters are applied, the brown ones are much sharper and not distorted. I shared it because I think it's pretty and it fired my imagination because I could see a little housey shape (like a tiny tower with a funny roof) midway down on the left, shapes that look like intricate structures and the fishy shape on the right with a "ramp" going up below it. These are still there in the better sharpening I did afterwards, the brownish batch of pictures.

 

Wow I only just noticed the white object does jump ty



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The levitating rock is a really intersting find, and the supporting images are wonderful to make the find all the more substantial. It looks like a left and right camera shot and it does not seem to have moved if you look at the distance and positioning compared to the whitish rock at 7 o'clock. It does seem to have areas protruding from the surface of the round shape that are also apparant in the shadow (IMHO).

Image three has a nice anomaly that looks like a daggar handle and part of a sheath to me and the white object in image 5 jumps.

There is a lot of pixellation in the enlarged image so the other details are not as obvious, except in image one which appears to have had an area 'obscured'.

Nice work and an interesting postbiggrin



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gmantoo I'll give you an explanation of my last post, sorry I didn't at the time of posting.

The top picture last post has a bright pale white thing to the lower center right and it's shadow is not it touching below, therefore it's suspended in the air or falling but less obvious than the first one in the thread.

I think the second picture has a rock suspended in the air, all the background is of a different sharpness, the rock belongs to the foreground, this applies to the fifth picture too. There is a shadow but it could be related to the rock below. The rock is strikingly reminiscent of a female figure seated on the ground with her head tilted down and her right wrist resting against her thigh. If I look at it in this way Isee her face is turned towards a hole in the ground beside her on a wider view.


The third has a peculiar pair of objects one has something wrapped around it. It stands out whatever filters I used to define it.


The fourth is of a rock that's hollow or curved to make an arch beneath it - you can see inside - and just before it and behind the round lumps that look organic and to the right in the arch is an apparent creature standing on front legs with it's head to the side and an eye looking towards the rover. If it's an actual creature it has predators because it's eye is on the side of it's head for peripheral vision.
 
The fifth has a shape like a stylised fish shape that's also possibly not touching any support, or if it is, it's supported by a small contact point beneath. It stands out of the shadow of the rock beside it. The object in the air above is also not part of the background like I said about the second. It's sharpness and light reflection matches the foreground. There is possibly a corresponding shadow to this at the side of the central rocky protrusion that has a dome shape on the top but I'm not sure about that.

In different filters this fifth section is fascinating to me, but I do have artistic tendencies, its amazing to look into with depth, there's structures that look like miniature buildings. This is borderline stuff, I found it quite beautiful and included as my subjective view of it. Here's one with lots of level manipulation that I did while I was exploring it.

 

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Thing is there's no reference points to use independently to the photographs, whatever we see in them, like everything is sand and rocks, are seen from our reality and our planet and our surroundings. We can't know for certain what a totally new and alien species is going to be like or how big or small or sentient. The rover is taking photo's by guidance from Earth on these and was until the 27th of August.

I've been trained in archaeology and also had a lifetime of various creative outlets, can make pottery and understand quite a bit of random stuff. I've made a collection in the last 2 weeks of archaeologically interesting deposits from these photos and I've been thinking I might load them into an empty domain I have that I'm not using, if I dare.



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Sapa, in these last 6 images, I don't see what you are referring to.

The first post though is very good. I wonder if that is why we do not see many tracks around Mars - because they have levitation technology?

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Explored another image http://mars.jpl.nasa.gov/msl/multimedia/raw/?rawid=0365MR1482006000E1_DXXX&s=365

I might be going round the bend but have to share

I carefully unsharpened using decompose, have taken a section of the image, have not added anything, Mars is wierd and far out and tomorrow I will be going out to get fresh air!

Untitled6.jpg 1./ another shadow that isn't attached

 

Untitled4.jpg    Untitled2.jpg  Untitled3.jpg

 2                                                                        3                                                                                           4

Untitled5.jpg      5

below is the whole section I looked at

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Found same on another shot of same area.

I wonder if the camera can take multiple images simultaneously?

It does seem to be slightly moved in addition to the altered perspective, but if it's falling then Curiosity is a fast mover!

 

here they are side by side with the numbers of  the images they were taken from

 

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Levitation?confuse Excellent findsmile



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The shadow is well below the object/ rock/ fragment.

This is from

http://mars.jpl.nasa.gov/msl/multimedia/raw/?rawid=0370ML1516002000E1_DXXX&s=370

( Tried to upl  anim, still learning )

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