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Macten, yes, initially, it might seem we are full of it, but as your further examination through layering seems to indicate, there is indeed something ' going on ' down there there for sure.

You wonder if " all the ' machines ' or whatever this race used was made with carvings or depictions on them." It would seem quite plausible that, as on earth, it would not be atypical to find that to whom or to what someone or thing/object/construct -belonged to would be clearly ' marked ' as such by some graphic depiction, designations, or symbolisms. This phenomena is evidenced everywhere on Mars. I have seen temple walls filled with written accounts of their history, and elsewhere are animal/symbolisms quite evident as to whom or what someone belongs to. Such as a persons own status, trade or profession, clan or nation .. there are all sorts and kinds of insignia and ' marks ' of ownership and ' belonging-to ' found on most everything produced .. or ' on ' .. Mars. It's a good question Mac, one, among many, items to keep a keen eye out for when exploring the red planet .. or anywhere for that matter. Thanks for chiming in on this Mac. Cheers smile / -M 



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Ken A, hello. The parts of the oven or kiln I had noted, but you may likely notice some other details in the attached close-ups. For example, his left foot is operating a gas/heat control-valve. It is a long rod or tube that extends up and into the furnace door .. and a very hot flame appears torch-like from that end.

There is much in the ' cave ' and elsewhere to suggest a smelting site. Such as machinery, pipes and valves, tools/part lying about. I am not too familiar, perhaps some viewer is, with the actual construction and layout of some such production facilities? Such as pressurized-air system/bellows, heat-exchange, furnace types and materials, heat supply types, liquid-coolants, exhaust-vents, castings/moulds, etc. This is a small but extended facility, and would have workers and areas arranged for each section of the process and production of specific items.

Am also including a study collection of yet another such facility, a little larger perhaps, that I had posted some time ago .. somewhere here. It is a smelter-site in the Argyre, and it is added for the enjoyment and encouragement of everyone. There is always so much to find! Thanks again Ken A for bringing this site to our attention. A great find and much appreciated too. / -M

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 I am glad you find these discoveries of interest Morbius, they pose even more unanswered  questions.

There are more signs of industrial works all over the PIA16453 parorama.

Here is another  that is located on that prominent background hill that show what looks to be placer mining or the dyeing of cloth.

It is complete with people at work and rock hewn vats and plumbing and drainage and what looks like cloth over some poles laying on the ground.

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Ken A, hello. The parts of the oven or kiln I had noted, but you may likely notice some other details in the attached close-ups. For example, his left foot is operating a gas/heat control-valve. It is a long rod or tube that extends up and into the furnace door .. and a very hot flame appears torch-like from that end.

There is much in the ' cave ' and elsewhere to suggest a smelting site. Such as machinery, pipes and valves, tools/part lying about. I am not too familiar, perhaps some viewer is, with the actual construction and layout of some such production facilities? Such as pressurized-air system/bellows, heat-exchange, furnace types and materials, heat supply types, liquid-coolants, exhaust-vents, castings/moulds, etc. This is a small but extended facility, and would have workers and areas arranged for each section of the process and production of specific items.

Am also including a study collection of yet another such facility, a little larger perhaps, that I had posted some time ago .. somewhere here. It is a smelter-site in the Argyre, and it is added for the enjoyment and encouragement of everyone. There is always so much to find! Thanks again Ken A for bringing this site to our attention. A great find and much appreciated too. / -M

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When I first started reading this I thought you guys were full of it. After layering this I could finally see what you were talking about.  To the left of "Ali Baba" is very clearly a number 1.  you have to download and magnify this pic to see it.  There are other interesting things in this pic, which makes me wonder if all the "machines" or whatever this race used was made with carvings or depictions of animals on them.  I have colored Ali and his friend for clarity but not sure I really believe thats what it really is.  Anyway, very entertaining thread , I couldn't resist chiming in biggrin.

 

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To: Ken A . The attached is of the ' cave ', albeit this is just the effects of the obfuscation ( ultra-bright/light-grey ) that surrounds it.

There is a man sitting in front of what is most likely a kiln or furnace of some type, and another person standing at his right side. I had done a similar amount of work on the entire picture, with what I thought was a reasonably competent write-up and presentation too, but decided this would suffice to confirm your findings.

I never did doubt you Ken A, and I believe your work is an unmistakable example of what AA should really be all about. Thanks so much for presenting a truly inspirational view.  smile  /  -M

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  Excellent  work Morbius  !

               You are  correct that there is heavy handed obfuscation around that whole scene with that light colored paint over so it looks like it is the aftermath of a snow storm.  Yes, there is another person to the right of  "Ali Baba" and he has that similar Oriental/Arabic garb on as "Ali Baba" does.

 The horizontal  lines in the mid section of the ovens look very much like handles for the fire box with the top section being the actual oven or kiln.

There is something flexible like "cloth" dangling in the last oven to the extreme left that is very noticeable in the lighter version of the three scenes you presented in your previous post about obfuscation.

The  physique type of the Tubal-cain character, with the wiry muscles and the bald head appears in other anomalous pictures from these Mars panoramas, like they are a common Martian genotype.

 


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In preparing submissions, which usually take 1-4 hours and much effort, they fill the workable screen with good detail. When submitted however, they are shoved to the right-top corner 75% reduced, while others get a full-page spread. Is this fair .. or am I missing something here?would someone be kind enough to explain this at all?? confuse



-- Edited by Morbius on Tuesday 21st of May 2013 12:49:16 AM



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 I have a similar problem when I post pictures or photos, as sometimes the picture is too large or too small to fit the format of the post as it appears on the computer screen.



-- Edited by Ken A on Tuesday 21st of May 2013 01:44:54 PM

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To: Ken A . The attached is of the ' cave ', albeit this is just the effects of the obfuscation ( ultra-bright/light-grey ) that surrounds it.

There is a man sitting in front of what is most likely a kiln or furnace of some type, and another person standing at his right side. I had done a similar amount of work on the entire picture, with what I thought was a reasonably competent write-up and presentation too, but decided this would suffice to confirm your findings.

I never did doubt you Ken A, and I believe your work is an unmistakable example of what AA should really be all about. Thanks so much for presenting a truly inspirational view.  smile  /  -M

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In preparing submissions, which usually take 1-4 hours and much effort, they fill the workable screen with good detail. When submitted however, they are shoved to the right-top corner 75% reduced, while others get a full-page spread. Is this fair .. or am I missing something here?would someone be kind enough to explain this at all?? confuse



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To: Ken A/All , this ' reply ' seemed best presented in two parts. An overview, and a detailed account to follow. Firstly though, it seems only fair to give a little preamble here. It is not meant to be offensive to anyone .. nor in any way whatsoever.

Upon a first reading of Ken A's reports, I considered either taking a direct, one way, no return trip .. to the funny-farm, or, calling in an air-strike, with specific orders to do a surgical-hit on his lawn-mower. This, I was certain, would be most devastating on moral ... and a real victory for me!!

But, and seriously now, I have gotten somewhat used to his .. unique style .. of posting, and with results from his investigations that I personally consider astonishing but quite valid, I think perhaps we might all be a little selfless and overlook this seemingly peculiar matter? Do we not all present posts that reflect our own unique style anyways?? I now believe, that Ken A has simply added a totally new dimensionality to AA understanding, to our collective experience. Like a piano with but 7 octaves, our Ken is the 8th Octave .. with which we may now offer even finer compositions on the worlds stage. He is among the truly gifted members that make AA such a great and highly respected Site .. and that on no less than a global basis .. I believe this is so .. do you?

That said, I say we get on with it, and having gotten the attached under our belt, we are then prepared, and can follow up with the preliminary analysis, observations, and mabee some interesting conclusions as well .. next, in Pt. II. Cheers / -M



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Ken A  Your imagination seems to be running a little wild  don't you think ???? confuse


The names and title are imaginary and self titled on a whim as the author's license  but the anomalies are non the less real as far as being anomalies.

What they  actually are I really do not know but my impression  is that they are certainly not "rocks".

This panorama PIA16453 is chock full of strange humanoid figures and non natural formations and manufactured items that cannot be all the result of chance or pareidolia or shadows  or are all caused by the pure imagination of the author.



 

 I do not disagree PIA16453 is littered with anomalies and your find is no different,,the first thing I spotted when I looked at the image was the poor quality photoshop that has been done around the pizza cutter and elsewhere throughout the image , the second was the very large amount of machinery and structures half buried or throughout the image, the differing filters and high contrast hide a lot of detail, but when you turn the contrast down (and sometimes invert the image) you can see more of what is behind the shadows which gives a greater perspective of the anomaly as a whole.

I am sure your audience agrees that you have posted some brilliant anomalies, and this panorama should be debated by members in order to try and understand exactly what this image holds, the jury is still out regards to humanoids roaming the Martian surface because of the hostile environment, most of the terrain of Mars looks to of had a recent flood within the past few thousand years, but the artefacts and half buried anomalies could make it much sooner as they have not been completely covered by sediment, so maybe the science data is wrong and surface conditions are more hospitable to humanoids and other life, although I feel any intelligent lifeforms that survived the flood would live under the surface closer to sustainable liquid water and safety , it could also be the case these images are created on earth in places very few people ever visit or know about (along with photo shop), PervertX  posted a link on skippers guest book which show just how convincing image manipulation can be.... Prometheus - Speed Art [#PHOTOSHOP CS 5]

There is nothing wrong with freedom of expression and speech on the forum, but to much author's license (especially on the theatrical side) can be a little confusing, sometimes a simple report about the anomaly is suffice to begin a discussion,  I find that Creating a fiction when stating a fact destroys the credibility of the truth one are trying to convey, that is why most members stick to the point they are making.



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Ken A  Your imagination seems to be running a little wild  don't you think ???? confuse


The names and title are imaginary and self titled on a whim as the author's license  but the anomalies are non the less real as far as being anomalies.

What they  actually are I really do not know but my impression  is that they are certainly not "rocks".

This panorama PIA16453 is chock full of strange humanoid figures and non natural formations and manufactured items that cannot be all the result of chance or pareidolia or shadows  or are all caused by the pure imagination of the author.

 



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Ken A  Your imagination seems to be running a little wild  don't you think ???? confuse



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Green arrow= Martian Ali-Baba tending the smelting ovens

 

Red arrow= Martian Tubal-cain extracting metal from ore.

 

White arrow= equipment and piping used in the ore extracting process.

 

This is also from PIA 16453

I am sorry that I don't have a still from an IMAX movie film to make things clearer.

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