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One of my personal favorites.

http://www.msss.com/msss_images/2008/01/31/



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http://marsanomalyresearch.com/evidence-reports/2006/102/mars-humanoid-skull.htm

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http://marsanomalyresearch.com/evidence-reports/2008/143/spirit-heads-stuff.htm

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http://marsanomalyresearch.com/evidence-reports/2008/134/rover-statue-or-person.htm

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http://www.marsanomalies.com/crownfacemain



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Thanks for that explanation. You are correct as I have indeed, done exactly what you have stated. In some cases, friends have pointed out other things in the pic I missed. In others they could not see the object until it was pointed out to them and sometimes they saw the object but not the way I saw it. 

I will say this tho, there is no one that I showed the pic from SOL 85 that did not see that face. The first time I saw it I almost fell out of my chair.  I do have another pertinent question for Qmantoo, whos opinion I also respect as a long time veteran of this forum. Was there a specific post that elevated your Ire or was it a general statement?



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When I say superimposed, I mean that the images are on a flat, one or two dimesional surface as in a wall carving etc rather than a three dimensional statue. A statue would stand alone and should be immediately indentfiable as what it is, where a flat surface carving where posters are identifying images and carvings as being of faces etc are open to interpretation and may not be seen as the same by everyone looking at them. I myself have posted items I believe are carved and are on flat surfaces. If you need t enhance the image for other viewers to see what you are proposing then it should indicate that it is not as clear as you thought. If you want an acid-test, grab a non-AA member sit them down in front of the screen with the unaltered image and ask them what they see and you will understand what I am trying to say. It's normally a painful lessons but explains what other mainstream people see in our posts.

 



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I appreciate your reply Chandre and your opinion. I do have an issue with your statement "superimposed" rather than "carved" how can you tell?  I also felt that this particular "superimposition" was too importaint and clear (to me) not to point it out.  That is part of the overall problem. People who find these things want other people to see them and they believe that other people will see what they see.  Obviosly not the case in all instances.  There is no quality control here unless we run all our posts through a screener.  I dont think that is what anyone wants. It is not free speech.  A dose of constructive criticizim from those who cant see might do better.  IMHO

Especially if it comes from more than just one source.

 



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Macten, you are right I do not see it as a face.

I have absolutely no doubt that a humanoid race once inhabited Mars (and possibly other Solar system bodies) with a similiar root culture to our own at a point far back in time. We have accummulated enough evidence on this and other sites to prove that (to me at least). For me the point is no longer trying to prove this as fact, but rather to try to see the similarities between what we see in the Rover images and match them to ancient sites on our own planet to better understand our common heritage and perhaps one day figure out our origin. Did we come from Mars as the vestiges of a civilisation devastated by a cataclysm or did we have our own culture at the same time as theirs that was also effected by the same cataclysmic event ? Did our origin culture inhabit the Moon and other orbiting bodies of other planets in the Solar system like Steins, the moons of Jupiter and Saturn, Phobos etc. There seems to be so much out there pointing to this possibility and a greater picture of the origin of our race. I must be honest that I am looking at what we have found and are finding as part of a larger picture at the moment as for me there is no doubt that the images we are seeing are showing us evidence of the remnants of large cities inhabited by humanoid entities, sadly they are debris fields but I am confident that there are areas on Mars that are still standing relatively intact that we might one day be allowed to view and explore via Rover or other mechanical means. Hope springs eternal wink

I will also add that I believe there is as much evidence of other types of entities that are not humanoid, both on Earth and on other bodies in our system and I totally agree that they would not be creating images of us in their carvings etc. They would have architecture and art completely alien and possibly unrecognisable or starnge to us. We have seem evidence of this presented by Skipper in the mounds around the 'jet' post and we have found similar strange structures in some of our own finds.

The problem on the forum is that posters see 'faces' in rocks etc that are 'superimposed' on the structure, by this I mean that it is not actually a carving like the remnants of a statue of a face but rather projected onto contours and shadows on an object. As Xenon has pointed out this is a common trait in humans to create symmetry and add recognisable shapes to objects like clouds etc. It's not really there, our tricky eyes and brains just like to impose order on chaos. It is a very human trait aww This does not mean that it is not there, it just means that we are aeasily debunked on these kinds of posts and are then subject to ridicule that we really do not deserve considering the hours we put into the work we present. That is why it is easier to concentrate on mechanical and structural anomalies that do not contain faces and are not so easy to debun like goggogs wonderful work (and many others).



-- Edited by Chandre on Thursday 1st of August 2013 08:00:33 AM

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I see what you mean. I could interpret anything to be a face but a Human face is different. I just put these two examples up because I believe that they are the best examples I have seen (so far) Here is more of a close up of the face I see in the big rock (or whatever it is) from SPIRIT SOL 87.  It "appears" to be a human peering out of a suit of some type, only his eyes, forehead and part of his nose are visible.

Sorry it is fuzzy but when you get close up like this  thats what happens.  In the thread this came from (History written in stone) I think Chandre did not see this as a face either, correct me if I am wrong.

Oh a second point as to why an alien race would picture humans in thier art or history, because they observed them at some point and Mars is the closest planet to earth. I seriously dont think (Theory Alert!) that humans only took 3 million years to develop intelligence when it seems that earth reptiles did not do it in 250 million or more years. I believe that humans or humanoids are much older than we are told.  

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You know me, I am as whacky as the next person, but generally, I dont see these human faces in the images from Mars.

To complement (and maybe explain) your large rock, I will post a horse/cow/rhino thingy I found yesterday. It may well have been posted on here before I dont know. I certainly dont ever claim to be the first to find these things.

It came from panorama 07-JG-01-pan-A074R1 which I suspect so did this large rock-looking thing you are showing us in your picture. I still dont see any human face in it though. In the image I posted below, I can see two ears, an eye and a muzzle/snout/nose peering around the left side of that rock. Whether it is really an animal with a horse/cow/rhino face and a very rock-like elephant/rhino body, I have no idea.

 

 

 



-- Edited by qmantoo on Wednesday 31st of July 2013 06:07:41 AM

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Spirit sol 85 and 87

These are without my normal clarification techniques. Pretty hard to deny IMHO.

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Goggog, I can see faces in many of the posts, but my logic leads me to the conclusion I have stated above - that these cannot really be faces drawn or created by other beings. Yes, they do look like faces, but think about it, how can they be human faces? I have considered this, and I cannot find any reason why or how. Maybe you or others can explain to me how they can be faces?

We all change our thinking as we learn more and experience more, and I have found human faces too, but even though I suggested I saw a man's head in that thread, I do not know how it can exist. So I have to assume it is me 'seeing things' (as Xenon says Pareidolia).

So what I am saying is that we all have pet theories that we like to believe. I have them, you have them, we all have them and we can only collect evidence to support them (which you are doing, I agree, so make a case or create a theory to explain how these things exist) Maybe they do it to make us feel welcome? Maybe they want to be our friends and these carvings are to say "We know what you look like" "We know you are watching us with your robot MER rovers"?

If they do want to be our friends, we are not being very friendly in return!



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I know, for certain criticism first of all in my address. I waited for such moment, but you too have late declared the claims.
Tell, on stones it is possible to appear casually drawn these images? The basic finds on stones. We know that once - the accident, two times - the coincidence, three times - is system. And so, whether it is possible casually or whether can coincide many times so that two circles and hyphen, and sometimes and accurate viewing of a nose, clearly and accurately to keep within it is system in oval, or in a circle of the big correct form.? I think that they could appear only purposefully, instead of is casual.
Still I want to tell that, work at a forum very little, it is not enough. Even if I am not right, the one who does nothing isn't mistaken only. I with the big hope wait for your works and initiatives and with pleasure is ready to be connected.
Here all the small and easy task. To find my initial error. On the first fragment of this error it is not visible, because it is smeared by me, and on the second a reality and it is possible to find out my error on the first by means of comparisons.
I apologize, if that not clear has written
Good luck!

 

Знаю ,наверняка критика прежде всего в мой адрес . Я ждал такого момента ,но вы слишком поздно заявили свои претензии .
Скажите ,на камнях можно случайно появляться  начерченные эти образы? Основные находки именно на камнях . Мы знаем что один раз - случайность , два раза - совпадение,три раза - есть система.  Так вот ,можно ли случайно или может ли совпадать много раз , так чтобы два круга и чёрточка , а иногда и чёткий просмотр носа ,ясно и чётко уложиться системно в овальном ,или в круге большой правильной формы ..? Я думаю что они могли появляться только целенаправленно , а не случайно.
Ещё хочу сказать ,что ,очень мало работаете на форуме ,очень мало. Если даже я не прав ,то не ошибается только тот ,кто ничего не делает .  Я с большой надеждой жду ваших работ и инициатив и с удовольствием готов подключиться.
Вот всем маленькое и лёгкое задание . Найти мою первоначальную ошибку. На первом фрагменте этой ошибки не видно , потому что размазано мной ,а на втором реальность и можно обнаружить мою ошибку на первом с помощью сравнений .
Извиняюсь , если что непонятное написал
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I have to agree with Q on this, some individuals do seem to be distracting away from true anomalies with claims of faces, animals, and other effigies on highly eroded surfaces (Pareidolia), I have visited many of the UK monoliths in the early 1980s, and other than erosion and the energies they radiate I have never seen any faces or effigies on any of them (other than graffiti) .

This forum has evolved (like JPS guest book) to incorporate alternative ideas and viewpoints along with our scientific knowledge and understanding, It is true that most humans are far pre-occupied with their own image and the bio designs that surround us on Earth to understand the concepts of alien environments, we take for granted that the Moon, Mars, Titan, and other planetoids with a rocky surface have a modern geology similar to earth, and because of indoctrination and with little understanding the science involved most people tend to jump to the conclusion that any bio life may be similar to what has evolved on earth (past and present).

No mater how much or how little members have contributed to the forum, all our efforts go into the greater understanding of the anomalies around us, speculation can be a useful tool if used with the perspective of the knowledge we already have, but speculation on its own has no value.

 



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Oh dear....Faces in the clouds - again.

The face images are creeping back again into our posts. If you do not agree with my arguments, then post your reasons why you think that aliens from different planets are likely to craft images on rocks (or icebergs) which look like humans (aliens to them).

As I have said before, I do not think it is likely that aliens will look like us. Partly because they have probably evolved over millions of years and been subjected to different conditions on their home planet. This would probably cause them to evolve into a different-looking being. The other thing to consider is that they may not have the same biology as us and so may not need the same organs as we have. Eyes in insects for example are compound eyes, round, made up of many tiny lenses in a 'dome' kind of shape. Mouthparts may not include teeth, noses may be larger or smaller and ears may also be larger or smaller too. This all makes it very unlikely that we are actually seeing an image of a human face in these pictures. Particularly since it is not on Earth too.

I have seen some people who say in their writing on the web that there are some aliens which look like insects, beetles, preying mantis, ants, some which look cat or lions, some which look like Wookeys and then there are the greys too. We have seen some evidence on this forum that there are beings which are snake-like on Mars as well. However, apart from these supposed human face images on rocks, there is no photographic evidence of human-looking beings on Mars... or is there? I would love to see it.

Even Greys dont look very human and would not picture themselves with large mouths and noses like we have and they dont.

So, if you dont agree, please post an argument for your viewpoint and we can see what the concensus works out to be. If you do agree, please consider that these images of faces must be images of something else or else we are interpreting them as faces.

 

 

 



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