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....  Or particular to a lunar mission. (I could not get a high res from this one attributed to apollo 15).

Anyway you can see the lunar landscape we are used to seeing is not as we imagine (considering the the landscape data is real, the overlays are manifestly fake). As simple as that.

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ref: http://www.hq.nasa.gov/office/pao/History/alsj/a15/AS15-88-11899.jpg
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Timewarp remember the sky was completely black for the ordinary observer. Were it not for image processing we would not have been able to uncover the structures behind (be them real or fake).

Also This phenomenon is not particular to this photograph only. Look!.

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Apollo 12 commander Charles "Pete" Conrad unfurls the United States flag on the lunar surface during the first extravehicular activity on Nov. 19, 1969. Click to view for high resolution image. Image credit: NASA.


ref: http://www.nasa.gov/images/content/162679main_conrad_flag_hires.jpg

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Frutty, thanks for your reply and image. I thought I could see the usual facial shapes as well. The circled anomalous object appears to be some sort of vertical structure. I presented the annotated image hoping that someone may be able to improve the clarity of whatever this anomaly is.

With regard to the main image being discuused here, it would seem to me that the area of the sky has been digitally 'scrubbed' to remove detail or confuse the viewer.

In the photographic original, which we do not have, there may have been some objects in the sky area or other artifacts which someone may have wanted removed. It is also possible that the secondary production, shown in this thread, was originally a black and white image and has had the colour detail overlayed.

Whichever way one looks at this particular image, there is something that is just not right about it.

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Timewarp there is a terrace full of those sculptures/artifacts you are so skillful in finding.



Here is the answer to your question

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In this processed view of the image I have highlighted the real dimension of the incredibly rugged terrain. The colored pixels don’t belong there.

Notice the rocky terrain would make it impossible for the astronauts car to advance an inch.

Notice also the rocks in the foreground along the structures everywhere.

Notice also the distances outlined in red make it impossible for the overlays to have an adequate perspective according to the background on which they were put on. What in the original look like shadows cast by the overlays in theis view are the  shadows of the terrain behind. The flag has been fixed over a solid rock

The astronaut could not fit either the rover car nor the LM!

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This Picture was attributed to the Apollo 17 mission to the moon. Goggog, me and Timewarp have shown this is a photo montage. (Review the analysis below)


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Hey hey calm down your ballooned ego.

Take a look again at this evidence you dismissed without reading.

  1. Goggog has shown that there is no hint of color other than in the overlays.
  2. I have shown That the shadows are fake.
  3. The astroman overlay is clear to see for everyone in the timewarp zoom.
  4. Also notice that the astronot cannot fit the clumsily overlayed fake LM.
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The evidence  I have shown so far is overwhelming. Go on Watcher, continue with your Defense of the Big Sham. They have earned another asset. aww

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Fruit - I'll ask you again - defend your Find! You really should know better than to accuse me of defeanding the sham of Ets.. Now I ask you again. Your overwhlming evidence is awaited.


OK I'll put my money where my mouth is...
This is my site library (for those whom need to understand what side I stand on)
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Hey Fruit _ I pay for this site outta my pocket. Im putting my words and finances into action! So if they use me as an asset I would be honoured as then Disclosure would be smoother!

Now fruit -
  i let you off lightly on your bizzare FRACTALLY GENERATED journey . You finally discovered that it was CGI lolol. What machine do you use to view thses images? Yup, good boy, a computer. AND what may I ask is produced as an important by-product, for us to view and interract with this amazing machines.  COMPUTER GRAPHICS!!!!!! Scanned in images to digital images are all broken down to  guesss???

111101010110101010101010110
1101010101010101101010110101

BINARIES - YUP... you crapped on about the cgi world u've discovered for so long - I didnt want to burst your balloon. 

You question my pride... Its not pride FRUIT, Its embarassment!

Ive been treating you with kid gloves and I think you need to understand that we all have opinions.  EVEN YOU lol.  But Ive learnt to be more restrained and more careful with what I do..  or say. Ive done nothing but encourage myself and others to get the best clearest images. NOT Images with watermarks - stripped backgrounds. IF your going to enhace the truth do it with the images original public integrity in mind!

A very very dissapointed Watcher of the TRUTH
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The evidence  I have shown so far is overwhelming. Go on Watcher, continue with your Defense of the Big Sham. They have earned another asset. aww

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No problem, watcher I won't step in your way. If you want to go on propagating disinfo, so be it. Just don't say that you weren't shown in the face what kind of deception you were the victim of.

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FRUIT.. DONT get too personal.  The idea of this forum is to share and learn info.  Im sorry to see that you revert to the camp of pigeon holeing anyone u have know arguement against! You say a lot FRUIT but you cant take the rebutles.. You accuse me?? lol, of propagating disinfo, just for explaining a basic effect on the image in question propoganda?? You've got a problem. Ive learnt to look more carefully.. Which u should do.

Now Ive explained whats going on with your image... I want to to prove me wrong! You see if we stick to the images in question instead of personal taunts then you will stay in that corner that u've painted yourself into. You see, the deal is that we are all able express ideas. Sometimes we debate the ideas. Sometimes our ideas change. But mud slinging dosent work with me son! I aint going to complain, thats not my bag but personal taunts dont work with me. I'll give just the 1 warning on that!

I have my enevelope pushing ideas but I will not brow beat anyone into understanding them.  You are going to have to bring more to the table FRUIT - Just keep it within forum rules and we shall have a perfectly healthy debate.  If you want to throw your rattle out of the pram I aint picking it up for ya...smile

PS... GET MORE IMAGERY PROOF! Turning contrast up and down aint good enough. You need to understand a little more. Remember , I told u a long time ago.. What Some of us can do can only classed as a tool. Thats it.  You still going to have to do the foot work.

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No problem, watcher I won't step in your way. If you want to go on propagating disinfo, so be it. Just don't say that you weren't shown in the face what kind of deception you were the victim of.

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Watcher, I have noticed you are fighting with your pride badly, because you as well as most of us has been conned miserably.



 FRUIT old friend.. lol  Just keeping these images honest (when possible).. Have you never seen this effect before? Unfortunately I dont leap unless im sure what ive found. then viewers can see my progress and be sure that what Im presenting has been looked into thoroughly.

By theway.. My pride is MUSCULAR..lol and my eyes are sharper than u'll ever be able to comprehend .

Just pointing out an obvious problem with ur idea. Nothiong personal.. Im sure ur pride can take that..smile

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Hi watcher. I think we will have to stick to other hobbies other than examining fake images from space. We as well as millions of people have shown to be unable to tell a photo montage from a real photograph.

I don't blame them sometimes it's quite diffult. In the images at hand however, they are so tawdrily concocted that the fakery is plain to see

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Just remembered.. GHOSTING also appears when you use a Vid cam on bright light source (older cams). This image maybe a still from actual footage. prety sure. The motion of the camera reflected in the motion of the repeated outlines.

HMMMM nice and annoying lol.

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Watcher, I have noticed you are fighting with your pride badly, because you as well as most of us has been conned miserably.

This image is clearly a montage read below again and you will realize that this image has not the slightest chance of having been created by a photographer.

Goggog has shown that there is no hint of color other than in the overlays.

I have shown That the shadows are fake.

The astroman overlay is clear to see for everyone in the timewarp zoom.

Also notice that the astronaot cannot fit the clumsily overlayed fake LM.

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Hi guys... Ive been watching this thread unfold..interesting. Just a few pointers with regards the sky. You need to look into machine and hand printing colour images.  repro prints, and how Jpgs, gifs, etc work. 

Youre venturing into the big bad world of image artifacts without allowing for these querks in imaging (especially in electronic media.) 

Fruit, the image youre looking at with the possible anomalies in the darkened skys is pretty obvious... Just look!

as17-134-20382_enhanced_2.jpg

Look at the LM (Landing Module). Now look directly above it and to the slightly to the right.. notice the repeat out line of the LM.. (very very bad processing) .. No anomaly..

The Flag. Look above the flag and slightly to the right . Notice the right vertical of the flag is repeated again and again faintly.

Guys, You've got to look carefully at these images .. understand what one has to go through to process them. A big clue is the repeat matrixes of similar out line above and to the lright of each main stable image subject.

Timewarp:  Your encircled find is purely an image processing glitch. The actual image is still there , just out of line.

Nice Job Guys..
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Just as a matter of interest, here is something else that is unusual.


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Goggog, good catch. Also not only it’s colored (which in my opinion should not be) look at what is standing in the background. If the LM is just next to the astroman, what are those structures in the background? Are they trying to tell us something? Is this real or a result of the montage?confuse

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Timewarp, thanks so much for confirming the strange dynamic structures in the lunar firmament

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Here is my version of what is contained in the sky area.

This is not what I would expect to find even after processing and enhancement.


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fruitnut1 wrote:

goggog, please would you uncover what is really behind the blacked out skies? thanks smile



fruitnut, behind a shot like anything essential .

But I am am excited with other question.
Namely: when all lunar background in it is black white color

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Why on helmet glass a lunar background color ?

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Or reflection on glass not a lunar background?confuse

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goggog, please would you uncover what is really behind the blacked out skies? thanks smile

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Timewarp, could you confirm the shapes in the balcked out sky? thanks smile


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Somebody else found same whatstiz hidden in the sky

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Have so much stuff, don't even know where to begin.

I guess my favorite lunar anomalies are to do with the many bizarre backgrounds of the Apollo frames.

IMO, these are clues to something much bigger than simple "scratches" or image "defects" or "pixelation".

Classic example:

http://i462.photobucket.com/albums/qq348/majorion/as17-134-20382_enhanced_2.jpg

Above is an enhanced image of course, but needless to say, the apparent 'architecture' in the background definitely shouldn't be there. All you do is turn up the gamma and contrast a bit, and you'll confirm it's there.

Original HiRES image: http://spaceflight.nasa.gov/gallery/images/apollo/apollo17/hires/as17-134-20382.jpg (2.2 M)"


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I hope its real, but it looks to good to be true.

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Original at: http://spaceflight.nasa.gov/gallery/images/apollo/apollo17/hires/as17-134-20382.jpg
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Below is AS17-151-23260 photograph attributed to Apollo 17, shadows revealed and gradient map protrayed.

https://lh6.googleusercontent.com/9vFOSGwj1rzVWf4zNOQJSWhMzVCyG3cXx_v_WTtTBPZhzHAWflem51SAyjePAR8eJxFskFfWWi-xAjDUnWllGNHwUg=s512



Hello chandre, I cannot assure you all moon photographs are fractally generated like their Mars counterparts.

However I can assure you all shadows are fake and all human made looking paraphernalia are overlays.

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FAKE OR REAL? smile

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If they are the same crater, then they definitely do not look the same. Of course, there is a world of difference in the amount of detail in each, but the one on the right does appear to have more "structure" in it than the one on the left.

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Chandre could you help me trying to solve this conundrum?

The two pictures side by side, are demonstrably real occurrences of the same area on our Moon.

Why the outrageous differences?

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Hello Chandre, thanks for analizing my doubts.

So as not to wander away from the thread's main topic.

The following image is our moon as seen from earth.

source: http://coolcosmos.ipac.caltech.edu/cosmic_classroom/multiwavelength_astronomy/multiwavelength_museum/images/moon_color.gif

I am highlighting the Copernicus crater.

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Questions:

  1. Does it look like a crater?
  2. How to make this image match the "picture of the century" depiction of the same area?
  3. Why is the "crater" bright white?
  4. Why it seems as if it is on top of a rectangle shaped mesa?
  5. Could anybody have landed in this rugged terrain?
  6. If they did, wouldn't they be flabberghasted by this oulandish features?
  7. Would the impact crater theory still hold, for the origin of Copernicus at least?



Your guess is as good as mine.smile


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Frutty, I have now done some homework and hope that I have a grasp of the basics of a fractaly produced image and I can see your point. They are very realistic and show many features we are seeing repeated on asteroids and on Mars in the images that are released.

I just have a thought, we know that the craters exist on the Moon as we can see them with the naked eye and telescopes from Earth, so all they could really do is overlay a fractally produced 'window' to hide what lies beneath. A 'truths protective layer' so to speak wink This would produce the geometric lines and curves that you are highlighting over the orofinal surface features, perhaps even following them to a degree. The best way to hide something is in the open, so just changing and distorting what is really there should be enough and covering your a** in case it all comes out one day and you can say, ohhhh that was a computer glitch that produced fractals that distorted the image...beyond our control...ghost in the machine...blah de blah

Now lets say that they did the same thing with Mars, perhaps taking aereal images from height and then fractally producing what they are releasing as surface images. The anomalies that exist may actually still show through then if they are using the original data and it means Iceman and you were both correct in what you were saying.

Am I on the right path in understanding how this could be applied (in my very basic English) or completely off the path ?


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