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Opportunity SOL 3509 Nav Cam"Looks like a Puddle to Me"
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When I download an image from the JPL as jpg I always open with GIMP and save as a png then it doesn't degrade with use.

The rover does move things around. There's at least one image where it has dug around the rocks and brought things out into the open.

http://mars.jpl.nasa.gov/msl/multimedia/raw/?rawid=0456ML1838008000E1_DXXX&s=456

My vid on this image is at http://youtu.be/3bfASVMTBtA

It has equipment that allows it to be controlled very intimately, it has drills and sampling equipment, shovels and even nuclear abilities. It was built to move stuff around.

 



-- Edited by Sapa on Wednesday 12th of February 2014 09:39:00 PM



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Please post links to originals. Some sols have got over 100 images and it is not good investigation practice to download the image from the AA thread.

Often when we save a copy of an image on our computer, it gets degraded a little more. For example, I know that I have to go to properties and change the 'quality' setting every time in my viewer if I want to save an image I have opened as a jpg, otherwise it will save it at 80% quality in order to save space.

I do not think that any of the rovers move rocks about. What I think you have found is a life form showing movement. NASA would not risk damaging expensive equipment by pushing a rock so that it looks better for the picture. Think of the millions it cost to get the rover to Mars and think about the science they could do in the future with the rover. They will not compnomise the future science by using a robot arm to do something it was not designed for.

Dust being blown about.
There is an interesting discussion on ATS about wind and about dust being blown about which is relevent.

Standing water:
There is also a discussion about some other possible standing water on Mars too, so it is possible as far as I believe. However, this looks like a very regular shape and so not sure if water or some kind of liquid would not have softener the edges a little more than this unless it is very recent water, but how did it get there.There should be a channel where the water flowed.

 



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It's where Curiosity has moved something of interest, The sharp edges are not what there would be in fierce winds. Also I read this on a NASA site:

QUESTION:
If a 35 mph wind is blowing on Mars, what would it "feel" like to an
observer? I heard a commentator say that the atmosphere of Mars was 1/10
that of Earth's. I assume that means 1/10 as dense. Would the corresponding
wind "feel" 1/10 as strong? Can the wind on Mars move rocks?
ANSWER from Jim Murphy on July 15, 1997:
The wind on Mars is not "strong" enough to move rocks on the surface. Even
though winds on Mars can probably reach large speeds, the atmospheric
density is so low, that the force the wind can impose on a rock is quite
small. For instance, a wind of 10 meters per second (about 20 miles per
hour) here on Earth produces a force which is four times stronger than does
a 50 meter per second wind (a bit more than 100 miles per hour) on the
surface of Mars. So, since a 20 mile per hour wind here on Earth does not
generally move rocks about on the surface (though it does raise dust), the
winds on Mars don't move rocks on the surface either.

There are a LOT of broken statues on Mars and I've often wondered about it.

I don't think Curiosity has broken them but I am 100% sure it has moved things around for the photo's.

An example look at the fresh drag line in the sand next to this "rock" :

 

detail_of_0184MR0925113000E1_DXXX.jpg

 

from this one

 

0184MR0925113000E1_DXXX_with_bw_patch.jpg

I recently made a vid about this photo in response to a guy who said there was "holy relics" in it

 

 



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Thank you for getting a better closeup of my puddle...lol

I just thought it looked weird and didnt look like a hole.



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No, I do not think what you are referring to is a puddle.

Many of the anomalous objects and other features on the surface of Mars are very tiny indeed.

There are not many large-sized objects as we would know them.

I have managed to process this image for sol 3509 and here is a crop showing the object in question.

I trust that I have selected the correct object as you did not point it out in your image.

 

1N439698339_3509_crp900.jpg

 

 



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1N439698339EFFCACMP1965R0M1.jpgCould be a faint shadow but darned if it doesn't look like a puddle.It just says water to me.I have tried resizing in photoshop but cant get it to look any better.It is from sol 3509.Maybe someone could please do a better job of it as I`m strapped for time at the moment.



-- Edited by ledzep3447 on Sunday 8th of December 2013 09:05:50 PM

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