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I have attached a photo from the LRO which to me shows 2 examples of poor obscuration. Both anomalies can be seen on the Arizona site at the following co-ordinates. Lat (-43.03709)  Long (-11.05163)

The magnified versions have not been enhanced in any way. Whether the anomalies are actually present beneath the lighter coloured layering I do not know but something is definately not quite right.

 Examples of Poor Obscuration.JPG


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Thanks for that qmantoo. Ok the co to which I refer is Healpix. A rather apt name. A link to the site is as follows:-

http://healpix.jpl.nasa.gov/

When looking at the software they provide you will see that its capabilities include a 'A constrained realization facility and 'Programs to search the maps for pixel neighbours and extrema of a random field.' Extrema?? ie Geometric shapes maybe?? hmm I've gotta get upto speed on all this tech-speak.

A friend of my daughter-in-law is a 3rd year photographic student at uni. On seeing a photo I showed to her (at 400% magnification) she said it looked like it contained a type of 'watermark'.  She said it looks like it has 'cartoon characters' as its theme. She compared it to Criminal Records Bureau certificates when you try to copy them on a photocopier. When copied the word VOID appears thousands of times across the page in different shades, sizes and fonts. (Ill post this photo later to show what she meant)

I added the 'subliminal' bit because I feel that if this was the case it gets the casual observer thinking that the moons surface is covered in anomalies (as opposed to none) and therefore perhaps make them less likely to focus on objects of real interest. I have seen many photos on the internet which seem to contain processing flaws and glitches as opposed to surface anomalies, but what if these were placed to distract the observer from whats really contained in the photo.  Its just an idea.



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I know that data can be embedded in images - not just metadata like in Exif headers but actually in the file. Any watermarking must alter the pixel values of the image and so watermarking would place "craters" or other "features" into the picture where there are none originally. I suppose if you altered every 8th pixel and added the value 10 to it for example, you could then read the image in and subtract the value 10 from each 8th pixel and get the original data, so yes it is probably possible, but why? What purpose would it serve unless it does program us subliminally and our unconscious "sees" the messsage which our conscious does not see. There are many other types of energy signatures which are all around us not just in images and we dont notice these for what they are. They all have an effect on us in different ways. This is why there are so many symbolic codes in religious places, crosses, anchs, "suns". Also on dollar bills there are freemasonry symbols too.

The problem with all nasa images is finding the best possible source as newssites and blogs often compress or degrade the "originals" so it is more of a hunt to find the best image out of hundreds of possible ones.

Any site which is available on search engines can be put on here because we can all do searches and find it. A private company or individual needs to be careful if they do not want their content to be indexed by the likes of Google/Yahoo etc as there are many probing search bots (russian/chinese/etc) trying to index their stuff.

I am sure that the government agencies use Google searches to find out stuff about us as individuals, so there is no reason why we should not use the same methods against them.
"Information is power" as they say, so publish away!


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Not at all qmantoo thank you. There is one other site that NASA use but perhaps I have to be a bit careful as it is a private company that specialises in similar if not exactly this type of work. I just used a search engine and it came up.

Have you or any member ever heard of 'subliminal watermarks' that blend perfectly with the photo subject at a distance but can cloud or even change details when they are magnified. Apparantly this technology has existed for years.



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Some lunar craters make a LOT more sense as dips rather than bumps. haha

Flipped and rotated often makes them look like bumps but of course, some of them ARE 3D raised structures like geodesic domes etc. It is to confuse us and so we do not know which way is up. Tricky lot aren't they?

 

I hope you dont mind but I will add that link to the links list as it is a useful reference.



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Hi Time Warp I have posted a thread on Lunar and ISS Anomalies which I hope has not been covered before.

See:-  Arizona State Uni flip and turn images 180 on main hi res site.

Since looking for anomalies which I started a couple of months ago I now realise that not only are whole maps flipped and flipped again but that various filters and encryptions are being applied right down to the individual pixels themselves. I believe I have found many examples as Im sure other member have. What I was surpried to find was this NASA related site which actually shows how all this can be done at every level.

 http://idlastro.gsfc.nasa.gov/idl_html_help/Working_with_Images.html

This all stemmed from an email I sent to them which asked for the 100% resolution LROC photo for a given coordinate on the LRO QUick Map site. The Arizona State University replied but merely reffered me to their main site. The image they asked me to look at was M119929934E

I found this unbelievebly hard as nothing seemed to be the right place and I was getting despondent. But then I remembered back to when I used to use microfische (in the good old days) for genealogical work. If you put the microfische into the reader upside down and back to front you got  absolutely nothing recognizable.

So I reversed the process and hey presto. Please see image examples.



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Here is the same image but lightened slightly.

There would appear to be many shapes embedded in the surface texture. I have circled the areas where more visual exploration and examination is required.

Do you see any vague shapes in the surface texture?

Image_q_crp900_circ.jpg

 



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The lunar image posted below is a crop from a large tiff image strip.

Has this image been deliberately 'dumbed down' to give viewers the impression that only rocks exist on the lunar surface?

Image_q_crp900.jpg

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http://wms.lroc.asu.edu/lroc_browse/view/M159017963RE



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