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HiRISE | Lower Western Wall Area of Holden Crater (ESP_022513_1535)

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Talking about worms....

In my opinion, I do not think we will see any worms as they would be so small one would need a microscope to see them.

The image I posted above is important for inclusion in the thread as it shows that there are small rectilinear structures on the surface therefore, anything that resembles a worm would not be seen unless it was similar in size to the small rocks that the camera can resolve.



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The Biology of Earthworms

  • What are the benefits to the soil

  • Worms, Disease and Mortality

  • The role of earthworms in Waste Management

  • The role of earthworms in Sludge Management

  • How the worm's digestive system processes waste

  • Worms - a Solution to Nutrient Run-off and Algal Bloom

 

http://www.vermitech.com/worms.htm

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The aquatic creatures can get bigger because gravity isn't always their prime concern.  We don't have whale-sized creatures walking around on land.



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Worms vary in size from microscopic to over 1 metre (3.3 ft) in length for marine polychaete worms (bristle worms),[1] 6.7 metres (22 ft) for the African giant earthworm, Microchaetus,[2] and 55 metres (180 ft) for the marine nemertean worm (bootlace worm), Lineus longissimus.[3]

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Yes - Back on topic please. Keep the discussions focused so that we can search effectively in the the future. There are threads for size of Martians in the Alternative Theories forums, as well as many other places.

This thread is about worms.


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Isn't this getting off-topic from the original discussion?



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In many cases, is NASA using the Rovers trail to cover up evidence of the existence of life. This approach distorts the picture in terms of dimensions. We must remember that all the fundamental things are wrong, it is the basis of the deception, what has been called the truth protection layer.

It is therefore not possible to use the 85 to 95 percent of the picture as a reference in terms of size, circumstances or conditions.

I urge you therefore to study the Rover tracks pictures to figure out how this illusion works. It is also necessary to educate yourself particularly in those marketing schemes that NASA uses.



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Correction:

Timewarp wrote, << Other images available of this particular location prove beyond a shadow of doubt that the arrowed left-hand object is a very small built structure. >>

This sentence should read:  ....... the arrowed right-hand object.....

I will post another view of the object shortly.

goggog, your image shows an interesting comparison. Also note the type of land forming in your image.



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Timewarp пишет:

goggog совершенно прав, когда говорит, что он может это доказать.

 

Что вы об этом стрелка объекта левой рукой?


Чтобы определить объект точно указанное Вами, оригинальный необходимо для меня.

Что касается моих слов: I can prove that the small object on Mars repeats in the big ,  I meant that about this object from other source (a picture from the companion)
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Conversation goes about a tail part where the squirt begins

 

this

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And this pentagon

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All these pictures are in other themeswink



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goggog is quite correct when he says he can prove it.

Other images available of this particular location prove beyond a shadow of doubt that the arrowed left-hand object is a very small built structure. It gives the impression of being a large building compared to the other small surrounding objects.

What do you make of the arrowed left-hand object?



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Timewarp wrote:

From previous research, I made a statement that life forms on Mars are over 1000 times smaller than the life forms on Earth. Therefore, the height of any living being on Mars would be approximately 1.8mm tall.



I can prove that the small object on Mars repeats in the big

Могу доказать ,что маленький объект на Марсе повторяется в большом .

 



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From previous research, I made a statement that life forms on Mars are over 1000 times smaller than the life forms on Earth. Therefore, the height of any living being on Mars would be approximately 1.8mm tall.

Unfortunately, the panoramic camera onboard the rover is unable to resolve anything this small, but what the camera can resolve are any small structures. I also found martians to be very art-orientated and tend to build stuctures in their own facial likeness. Faces apparently form a major part of martian cultural identity.

The image shown below is a processed and cropped section of one of the images from sol 1833. The area selected can be viewed in the images shown above. I have arrowed two objects in the image which you may find of interest. Some other interesting anomalies are also highlighted. Take note of what would appear to be built structures near the top of the image.

Are the objects I have arrowed built structures?

Have a look and see what you think about the highlighted anomalies.

 

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Post moved here - to thread about traxck overlays



-- Edited by qmantoo on Tuesday 21st of June 2011 01:37:01 AM

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here for Sol 1843 Spirit Navcam.

2N289976994EFFB0EOP0675R0M1
Rover Spirit
Sol 1843
Site B0
Camera Navcam

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Looks like it is from 1830 - Spirit Navcam Sol 1830.

and

this one too

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Rover Spirit
Sol 1830
Site B0
Camera Navcam
 



-- Edited by qmantoo on Tuesday 14th of June 2011 09:38:04 AM

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Can any members confirm that 1833 and 1843 is the correct sol reference information?



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I have to agree with Eaol. Having looked again, it is definitely taken from over to the right, which makes the tail look flatter. That is what persuaded me.

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I already said it's from a different angle.  Nothing had to move aside from the rover.



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Uther Pendragan wrote:

Ok then what is this thing that moves around on the surface?confuse

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with regard to this motion of the stones, could not the wind be been moved? or maybe there was even a light quake of Mars


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very good argument, I am fully your opinion @ Eaol 



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Although I haven't yet done some research on what the wierd tube-looking depressions are, I know enough to say with absolute certainty that they are not worms.

This is because of the immense size.  Granted the planet Mars currently has a much weaker gravitational pull than the Earth.

The largest land animal on Earth right now is the African Bush Elephant.  This creature is massive, 6000 to 9000 kilograms.  On Earth, its weight is about 13,000 to 20,000 lbs (yes, there is a difference).  This is already a heavy animal, approaching the limit for a land-dwelling creature in Earth's present gravity.  Scaling of muscle tissue and bone strength provides strong evidence for this.

The largest known land animal on Earth ever was Amphicoelias, a sauropod dinosaur approaching 200 feet long.  Now mainstream weight estimates place it over 100 tons, but that weight estimate is based off of a discredited assumption as well as the ignorance of how much weight muscles and bones can support.  In reality, it probably was fairly lightweight due to the lesser force of gravity (some say around a third or a fourth of what it is today).  But if that's large for a creature on Earth, that's still nothing compared to the mysterious form you see on Mars.

Another problem with the worm theory is that the creature would simply be too big to dig through dirt, especially at that depth.  One of the best ways to move, as a worm, is to propell yourself forward through compression and expansion (like an accordian) with a sharp tip on the front end, pushing dirt to the sides.  This is fine for small worms, but when you get big, you evolve to be longer, as you are at a disadvantage if you're large and wide.

The greater your width, the deeper you would need to go.  The increasing weight of the dirt on top of you, coupled with the great amount of pressure and the more tightly packed dirt, makes this a disadvantageous trait.

Also, there is no explanation as to what the worms are supposed to be living off of.  This is a serious problem.



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You're not the only one who doesn't think these are worms, Siegfried.

 

1)Ok then what is this thing that moves around on the surface?

To me, it appears that it is a background object that appears to have moved.  But if you look at it, you notice the background moves as well.  And the foreground is different.  I would suspect that the device capturing the image has moved in those days in between shots.  Besides, if you had only one image, you couldn't argue for anything more than another boulder.  The argument for this being alive is really, really speculative, and reduced almost to nothing when you notice the only thing that attracts interest at all to this lone rock is the fact that it appears, superficially, to move.  It's a shallow argument overall, and I don't think it is the kind of thing we need to see on the forum.




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And what should these alleged worms feed for? I think not that this worms are...

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it's been done to death. sorry but not here.

can u explain the tail? do u even see that?


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Yes, thats interesting. We should try to find other examples of this and document them. There is, however, quite a long time between photos. I wonder why it appears in the same shot or why the same shot(almost) was taken 10 sols later.

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It does not look like a hog or a turkey to me. It looks like the head
of a very large (by Earth standards) worm.

Poking its head up then going back under and coming up somewhere else.

Well documented where?


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it's a turkey pig, well documented already.

in martian it's called a rock hog.

try to stay informed.

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Ok then what is this thing that moves around on the surface?confuse

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no

shai-hiulud doesn't exist on mars.

why?

because it would suck. then we have the fremen and all that crap. which i guess we have the ancestors of them now, but no worms on mars.

hey! only my opinion!!



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Are these giant Mars worms?

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-- Edited by Chandre on Sunday 21st of November 2010 11:40:37 AM

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